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Mspacman14
2005-11-01, 03:07 PM
Yes see, I think the "program" (nero, etc) is what I am missing. I dl at work, and usually convert my shn & flac to wav's, and then burn them with a program called Roxio. And then delete them so I don't get busted. ;)
So... I should get some sort of dvd burning program? Also, what do I do with mpeg's?

ps- I should also mention that I just started this friday of last week. So very n00b.

AAR.oner
2005-11-01, 03:36 PM
there are probably freeware DVD burning progs, maybe some others will chime in...i stick with Nero, which'll do all yer burning [audio and DVD] for around $70 [US] if i remember correctly.

Depending on what Roxio package you have at work, it might burn DVDs too...

Mspacman14
2005-11-01, 05:48 PM
That player you suggested is very nice, I can watch them with that at least if I can't find a burning program. I'll do somemore fishing tomorrow.

AAR.oner
2005-11-01, 08:32 PM
you can check at videohelp.com and doom9.org for freeware programs that'll burn DVDs

TrippinBill
2005-11-02, 04:28 AM
I got the VLC player but I can't watch the files. It says that it is not a valid Win32 application. Does anyone know why this is?

AAR.oner
2005-11-02, 09:11 AM
i've never had this problem but you might wanna check over at their forum for the answer
http://forum.videolan.org/
http://www.videolan.org/doc/

ThadeusMcGee
2005-11-03, 08:20 PM
I have dvd software but it won't play the VTS. VOB files can anyone help

TheMamba
2005-11-03, 08:24 PM
Are you just trying to play them on your computer?

http://www.videolan.org/

VLC will do the trick.

ThadeusMcGee
2005-11-05, 04:47 PM
I have dvd software to play dvd's as well as software to burn them. The Problem I am having is, I downloaded a the woodstock set for Blind Melon from this site, for some reason, when I try to play the files, VTS.VOB, none of my media players support the file. If I can't play them, I definitly can't burn them. Not sure what to do, am I suppose to change the format of the file as I would with audio files? help, please?

AAR.oner
2005-11-05, 05:31 PM
what software do you use to watch DVD's with? to burn?

WSPeace
2005-11-06, 07:11 PM
What's the best way to transfer dvd files from one computer (w/out dvd burner) to another computer (w/ dvd burner)?

The files are so big I can't just burn a data disc but my friend has a dvd burner and I wanted to transfer so I could have a copy

ThadeusMcGee
2005-11-06, 08:20 PM
I play video through several diferent media players, winamp, windows media player, a program called cyberlink power dvd, I burn with a program called sonic. thanks for any help you can give. Do the VTS.VOB files ordinarily play or do the need to be changed into a different format?

AAR.oner
2005-11-06, 08:38 PM
a DVD fileset consists of .ifo, .bup, & .vob files -- this is the standard file structure for a DVD, nothing needs to be converted...

Power DVD should play the show:
click the "Select Source" button on the power dvd interface > Open media files...the playlist window will open...browse to the show's Video_TS folder on yer HD, select all of the DVD files [.ifo, .bup, & .vob files] > click Add > click OK...

as far as i know, winamp & wmp don't play dvd files.

Debotron-6K
2005-11-07, 08:06 AM
Did you try VLC? I don't have much experience with that one but I know it's supposed to be good

if all else fails, download Media Player Classic (http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_players/media_player_classic.cfm). It will play anything you throw at it and it couldn't be easier to use. Just click File>open> navigate to your desired VOB file, BAM!

nibbles
2005-11-07, 12:18 PM
What's the best way to transfer dvd files from one computer (w/out dvd burner) to another computer (w/ dvd burner)?

The files are so big I can't just burn a data disc but my friend has a dvd burner and I wanted to transfer so I could have a copy
It's very easy to get an external IEEE1394 or USB harddrive to transfer the files.... probably easier than networking the comps.

If you network them, then they see each other in Network Neighborhood.

It's slow, but you could get a 2 GB Smart Media or Compact Flash, or SD Card
and copy the VOBs if both comps have card readers.

Good luck, nibs. :wave:

ZenFractalJam
2005-11-13, 11:38 PM
I just downloaded 12.29.03 torrent, and it says i need some DVD plugin for Nero6 to burn it properly. I can still burn the video but there is no audio synched with it. It is because there is an option in the menu to pick a certain audio source. If i burn it with Nero6 it comes out with no audio and no way to pick a source, does anytone know a way around buying a plugin, is there freeware?
PLEASE HELP

thanks alot,
Abro

AAR.oner
2005-11-14, 10:51 AM
Zen...i'm unsure what yer referring to exactly, i've never ran into this problem before...if you could tell us which show it is specifically, i can do some research...

ZenFractalJam
2005-11-14, 12:39 PM
its Phish 12.29.03 Miami FL, i also ran into this problem with The Phish Nuggets Torrent.

It says i need power DVD to burn it properly.
Thanks for the help

AAR.oner
2005-11-14, 01:06 PM
um, i didn't see anything in those threads re: needing a plugin :hmm: what plugin is Nero telling you it needs?

and are you using Nero Burning ROM, or start smart, etc...always use Burning ROM!

--open Nero Burning ROM from yer program list
--select DVD-Video
--drag *all* of the contents of the show's Video_TS folder to the disc's Video_TS folder [in red]
--then burn...

spacejam1
2005-11-14, 04:29 PM
Looking for some freeware that will help me put tracks into some vcds that I have. I converted the vcds over to scvd and of course they will not fit on one disc. The vcds I have need to be split into tracks so that I can fit them onto a disc after I convert them. For some reason the vcds that I d/l are not tracked. Any help would be awesome..Thanks ahead of time.

twistafatty
2005-11-14, 06:14 PM
When I burn a dvd from my computer and play on my home unit the dvd freezes up.I can burn 5 copies and just one will not freeze up.Also,just bought a plextor dvd burner I have no picture on my tv but have sound,it's the opposite on my pc a picture but no sound.It happens on both dvd+r and dvd-r.I am using nero 6 could it be my video card.Thanks.Just tried watching from HD the freezing problem was much worse...

thisistoto
2005-11-14, 11:40 PM
Could be the media?

I dont see how your video card would have anything to do with it.


Does it play at all in your home dvd player?


Try running a checksum after you burn, or use data verification on your nero.

spacejam1
2005-11-15, 05:31 AM
Is this a stupid question, or am I being dissed cause of using vcds? lol This is just the format I recieved these cool vidoes in and wanted to try and upgrade them. Till I get a new puter with dvd burner the scvd will have to do...lol

showtaper
2005-11-15, 07:26 AM
Is this a stupid question, or am I being dissed cause of using vcds? lol This is just the format I recieved these cool vidoes in and wanted to try and upgrade them. Till I get a new puter with dvd burner the scvd will have to do...lol

I don't think you are being dissed, this is not a video editing forum. Most users here have admitted that they don't do much more than "grab and burn"....

Cool site with lotsa advice and links to tons of video software and codecs:
http://www.videohelp.com

Since you cannot "add" quality to video, the only advantage to changing formats would be to add chapters.....

AAR.oner
2005-11-15, 11:22 AM
what Neor "program" are you using? ONLY use Burning ROM, forget start smart or vision xpress and the others...run Burning ROM, select DVD-Video as your project format, drag *all* of the files in the show's Video_TS folder over to the RED Video_TS folder in the project window...should work fine in yer SA then.

AAR.oner
2005-11-15, 11:25 AM
most of us who deal with video editing around here only have experience with DVD progs, so i would check videohelp.com as showtaper recommended...also check over at doom9.org ...there should be info you need at one of those spots

saltman
2005-11-15, 01:13 PM
When I burn a dvd from my computer and play on my home unit the dvd freezes up.I can burn 5 copies and just one will not freeze up.Also,just bought a plextor dvd burner I have no picture on my tv but have sound,it's the opposite on my pc a picture but no sound.It happens on both dvd+r and dvd-r.I am using nero 6 could it be my video card.Thanks.Just tried watching from HD the freezing problem was much worse...

If you have freezing playing from your hard drive something is majorly wrong with how your computer is setup. You can count on it not being your DVD player that is the problem or the media. something else is the root. Does your computer meet the minimum system requirements for the dvd player program. does it have the correct codecs installed. Possibly a combination of many things.

MightyBurn
2005-11-15, 01:27 PM
I need some help. I finished downloading a show and my g/f got excited to see before I was able to burn it. Low and behold she tried to open the vob file with another program. Now its been changed to a BUP file and I can't get it to go back. any help would be great. thanks!!

twistafatty
2005-11-15, 05:05 PM
Thanks,There's not a video card or audio card it's all on the motherboard,I will be purchasing to add on my computer.I did run md5 everything ok.I did not use the dvd -rom on the nero 6.I have also taken notice if I'm uploading it causes problem with freezing when I watch from my hard drive.All the media I have downloaded has caused the problem..Thanks to all

ZenFractalJam
2005-11-15, 05:35 PM
i cannot acess burining ROM, from start smart i go to dvd video and it open up vision express 3 automaticly, If i go through the program list into the nero file there is no buring rom aswell, only vision express 3??

Thanks alot for the help, it is very much appreciated brother

saltman
2005-11-15, 05:38 PM
vision express is an authoring program. it is not for burning dvds.
it is trying to reencode the files and you don't have the proper codecs.
use nero express. if you have vision express you have nero express.

AAR.oner
2005-11-15, 05:49 PM
hmmm, maybe you don't have the full nero6 suite i guess...from Start Smart, it should be listed in the left pull-down "Applications"...if not, using Xpress will cause problems since it can't recognize an authored DVD's Video_TS structure...what its doing is "reauthoring" and basically screwing it up...

you could try making a DiscImage of the show and then burning that way

ZenFractalJam
2005-11-15, 06:50 PM
thanks so much, using nero express worked, sweet now i dont have to waste an extre 30 minsdecoding and encoding
much love Abro

twistafatty
2005-11-15, 08:03 PM
Thanks,downloaded nero 7 and used the nero dvd-rom worked fabulous...Thank You for all the help....

ryebread90
2005-11-15, 10:53 PM
For Some reason after conveting AVI into dvd format using WINAVI and then burning it to disc using dvdshrink, the audio and picture are choppy. any help would be most obliged.

Evenreven
2005-11-16, 04:22 PM
Uhm... change the file extension? Which application did you open it with?

ryebread90
2005-11-17, 05:44 PM
anyone?

ColinM
2005-11-17, 06:28 PM
I've not had this problem, but I use VSO Divx to DVD for .avi conversions. It's damn slow (about 2x for the first conversion, then as slow as -2x for the 3rd or 4th conversioin onto the same DVD), but it does the job well.

It will most likely take you longer to convert and burn than to watch it... :disbelief

But it's an excellent program. Also, get some more airflow into your case, as this will heat it up a bit. I notice a jump of 15-20 degrees. Ambient room about 67 F, processor temp at about 100 F, during conversion it will jump to as much as 126 F. No worse than during .mp3 conversion, but it sits at the high temp for longer.

The Wicker Man
2005-11-18, 01:25 AM
Why am I getting this. I got it with version 6.6.0.14 and updated to 6.6.0.18

6 coasters os far and I am trying to get a down DVD out, I have burned direct and tried a ISO image...

No Luck

Help...

Log File

Windows 2000 5.0
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 9/10/1999 4:06:00 AM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.14
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 14d
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <DVDRW IDE1004> Version: 0043 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.14
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <DVDRW IDE1004 >Version: 0043 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.14
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : DVDRW IDE1004 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y120P0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
DVDRW IDE1004 D: CDRom0
=======================
AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 62914560 (62914560) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 479MB (490992kB)
Free physical memory: 235MB (241552kB)
Memory in use : 50 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
17.11.2005
UDF/ISO compilation
6:31:38 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started

6:31:38 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

6:31:38 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6314
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

6:31:38 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files sorted

6:31:38 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

6:31:38 PM #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3297
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:31:38 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3297
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:31:38 PM #8 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3230
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

6:31:59 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 267
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2259055 (502:00.55, 4412MB)

6:31:59 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

6:32:00 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2433
Recorder: DVDRW IDE1004, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000, Media Type ID: T02, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

6:32:00 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 445
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
Insert empty disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW.)

6:32:00 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2259056 (2259056) = #2259056/502:0.56
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2259056 blocks [DVDRW IDE1004]
--------------------------------------------------------------

6:32:00 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
Prepare recorder [DVDRW IDE1004] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4626546688, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2259056 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

6:32:00 PM #15 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

6:32:00 PM #16 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4114
Cache writing successful.

6:32:00 PM #17 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

6:32:00 PM #18 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

6:32:00 PM #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2643
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

6:32:00 PM #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8821
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000
Media type ID: T02
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E - 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 ...YUDEN000T02.8
23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 - 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A #T7..Nr..c......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

6:32:19 PM #21 SCSI -1196 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x03994A00
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
Sense Code: 0x3A
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x51 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3A 0x02

6:32:19 PM #22 SCSI -1196 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x03994A00
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
Sense Code: 0x3A
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x52 0x01 0x00 0x00 0x00 0xFF 0x00 0x00 0x1C 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3A 0x02

6:32:19 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 655
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

6:32:19 PM #24 CDR -1196 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1763
Disc not present - tray open

6:32:19 PM #25 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1763
Could not perform start of Disc-at-once

6:32:19 PM #26 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 9/10/1999 4:06:00 AM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 10/28/2003 3:02:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 10:59:42 PM (Adapter driver for rec)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

jmv7372
2005-11-18, 01:25 AM
I d/l'd a DVD that is in DVDf format and it won't play on my DVD player? I thought the file might have been corrupted during the d/l so I trashed the file and d/l'd it again, and it still won't play? I get an error message from my DVD player that says it could not detect a valid video file. Can anyone help me out?

Gizby
2005-11-18, 03:22 AM
Do you mean that the folder name ends in .dvdf? If so, that is just letting you know that that folder contains DVD Files.

Also, *deep breath* what program are you using to burn with? What kind of DVD are you burning it as (data/video)? Did it come with an .md5 file, and if so does it show all the files as passing their checksums?

zosos last stand
2005-11-18, 05:47 AM
hi. the first thing id try is a different brand of media. i had the same problem a few weeks ago, and was advised this. it worked for me! i was also advised to do the usual like update my firmware, defrag etc but changing media did the trick. hope this is of some use

pawel
2005-11-18, 10:56 AM
cool vidoes in and wanted to try and upgrade them

You won't 'upgrade' them by converting to SVCD or DVD resolution. In fact they will be crap after then = blurred and with more visable pixelation. Keep them in format (resolution) you got.

It's posible to make a DVD (menus) from a VCD, keeping the original format. You can do it in TMPGEnc DVD Author.

http://www.vcdgear.com serves for basic VCD manipulation.

Nero is very good for burning VCD tracks in right order.

MightyBurn
2005-11-18, 02:47 PM
She's not sure what she opened it up with but every time i try and open it it my dvd burning software pops up. How do I change the file extention? thanks for the help.

AAR.oner
2005-11-19, 10:43 AM
try right-clicking the file > Rename > change the ".bup" to ".vob"

hopefully that'll fix it.

jmv7372
2005-11-19, 09:11 PM
thanks Gizby, after resetting the prefrences and reducing the write speed I was able to burn it...!

Racerx2004
2005-11-20, 12:56 AM
Hey Wickman try this, it worked for me ,I hope it helps you with the problem.

:cool:



http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45497

Riggaberto
2005-11-24, 03:32 PM
I downloaded the Pink Floyd Divided We Fall DVD, and I'm not sure how to burn it on DVD. I tried looking for this information on the site but couldn't find it, so I apologize if I'm making a redundant post. Is there any free software that will work for this, or do I have to buy some? I have some crappy software that came with the computer, sonic or something, but it seems to be only for making custom menus and stuff. I'd appreciate some help thanks. I wish my share ratio would show the gigabytes I've uploaded from that show, but I'm less concerned about that then I am getting this on DVD. Also, do I need the dual layer DVDs? Thanks,
Riggaberto

Five
2005-11-24, 03:53 PM
you only need dual layer if the size is over 4.5GB

...so usually not!

I'm not sure about free software, my burner came bundled with nero express, that works very well and is easy to use.

any free software suggestions?

Riggaberto
2005-11-24, 04:44 PM
I'm so frusterated. I downloaded Burnon CD/DVD. But I just cannot figure this out. It says I'm missing like ccd files or something or another. It's just not fucking working. Can someone help me please? Does anyone have sonic to burn DVDs? I'm know what I'm doing with a computer, I just can't figure this out. Thanks,
Rigga

Five
2005-11-24, 04:50 PM
post a screenshot of the error its giving you maybe I can help

never heard of burnon or ccd or sonic :confused: sorry!

jdawson
2005-11-25, 07:57 AM
the full name for the sonic one is it record now? I have that on the pc but once I upgraded the burner it won't recognize the burner. I can try and walk you through it if it is, but keep in mind it's been a while. If you can normally burn and it's just this one giving you problems, usually you can download nero free for 30 days (or until the end of the month, whichever comes first)

Drifting69
2005-11-26, 04:12 PM
hi...i JUST got a dvd burner for my comp. i have nero for burning. it's my understanding that in order to burn a dvd, you simply go to the Video TS file and select what's in there to add to your project. the total size of the folder is 4.3 gigs...but when i go to burn with nero, it reports the size to be 5.35 and says that it's too big to fit on a standard dvd! what gives? is there a way around this, or am i doing something wrong? any insight would be greatly appreciated...thanks in advance.

PyRo UK
2005-11-26, 04:39 PM
Are you deffinate that you only added that single folder?

Right-click the folder in explorer and click properties. The "size on disc" value is how much space the thing actually takes up, and therefore how much DVD space it would need to use. Is this still below about 5.2/5.3gb?

And never try to write too close to a disc's maximum capacity. I try to keep below 700mb "size on disc" on a 730mb CD and 4.3gb "size on disc" on a 4.5gb DVD.

Drifting69
2005-11-26, 06:33 PM
hhmm...well, when i right click and check properties, it says it's 4.33 Gigs. so, i dunno.

TheMamba
2005-11-26, 07:38 PM
Is it a show you downloaded from here?

Can you post a screen shot?

There's always a little bit of fluff between what Windows reads as the file size and what Nero reads. But it shouldn't be a 1 Gig difference.... :confused:

Drifting69
2005-11-26, 07:56 PM
hey guys...i got it all worked out...i was using Nero SmartStart and trying to get it done from there...but i discovered on an earlier post from someone that you have to use Nero Express directly...i dragged the files over into it, and no problem. thanx for the help anyway :)

RebINS6
2005-11-26, 09:25 PM
I use nero to burn the dvd concerts that i download from here. usually everything works but just recently the dvds that i burn come out wrong. when played in my standalone dvd player the audio is fine but the video is jumpy, kind of like when a video cassette would get eaten. i have changed nothing in my burning process but i dont understand why all of a sudden it doesnt work. any ideas? thanks

TheMamba
2005-11-26, 10:26 PM
Shotty media?

Is your hard drive full? (makes it harder to burn)

Defragged your hard drive lately?

RebINS6
2005-11-26, 10:29 PM
same media as before. hard drive has over 40gigs. ill try a defrag now

RebINS6
2005-11-27, 12:14 AM
ran a defrag. tried again same result. anything else i could try?

RebINS6
2005-11-27, 07:50 PM
when i backup storebought dvds it burns fine but not the concerts i download.

AAR.oner
2005-11-27, 09:36 PM
what nero program are you using? don't use smart start or vision xpress

open Nero Burning ROM.
select DVD and "DVD-Video" as yer disc type.
drag *all* of the files from the show's Video_TS folder to the red Video_TS folder in the project window [.ifo, .bup, & .vob files]
burn away

RebINS6
2005-11-27, 10:45 PM
i use nero burning rom 6. the method you described. ive done it this way for months & i never had a problem until a few days ago. im pretty baffled over here

JDUB
2005-11-28, 12:17 AM
i've burnt a few dvd's. most of them come out great. there are a couple that i have downloaded that will play on my computer, but not my dvd player. wtf do i need to do to get it to burn on the dvd player?

U2Lynne
2005-11-28, 12:26 AM
What is your OS? What application are you using to burn the DVDs? Are you burning VIDEO_TS folders? And, do you have a DVD player that plays both PAL and NTSC videos and are you only burning PAL/NTSC (whichever your player will play - computers will play both)?

Five
2005-11-28, 01:01 AM
do you have access to a standalone you can test the disc on? maybe they work better there.

also, try creating .md5 checksums off the disc and compare those with what came with the seed.

JDUB
2005-11-28, 12:33 PM
What is your OS? What application are you using to burn the DVDs? Are you burning VIDEO_TS folders? And, do you have a DVD player that plays both PAL and NTSC videos and are you only burning PAL/NTSC (whichever your player will play - computers will play both)?

OS? i'm sorry i do not know what that is. i use nero to burn my dvd's. i've had a ton of success with the stuff i've downloaded here. i have recently d/l some official release dvd's from another site. the files that i d/l are like, for example, the u2 chicago dvd that i d/l came in like 86 different parts. i had to use winrar to extract the 1st file. when i did this it extracted the whole dvd into a folder. when i opened the folder there was an audio folder and a video folder. i used my nero and opened the video folder to burn to dvd. after it was done it didn't play on my dvd player, but my computer. any suggestions?

U2Lynne
2005-11-28, 12:52 PM
(OS - Operating System)

When you used Nero to burn the Chicago VIDEO_TS folder, did you do it in the same manner that you burned downloaded shows from here? I'm not much help when it comes to burning DVDs on a PC. Perhaps someone else will come make some suggestions.

Five
2005-11-28, 01:21 PM
are you burning with nero in data dvd mode or video dvd mode?

the video dvd mode will set up the folders for you and everything, couldn't be any simpler. it also makes small changes to the .bup and .ifo sometimes that might solve your problem.

RebINS6
2005-11-28, 04:13 PM
what do you mean test the disc on? after it burns? aslo idk if i mentuioned this before. i converted the files to an iso & im able to view that. but on my regular dvd player it jumps around.

Five
2005-11-28, 04:35 PM
you don't have to convert the files to an iso

just burn a video dvd with nero, put the files that belong in the VIDEO_TS folder in the VIDEO_TS foler then burn

by test the disc on I mean see if it plays properly.. are you saying it jumps around on your standalone, too?

sometimes a dvd will jitter a bit on a comp that doesn't have enough horsepower, that's why I suggested trying it out on your home dvd player. since nobody else seems to have this problem I think it might be something with your computer

RebINS6
2005-11-28, 07:49 PM
it jumps on my standalone. thats where i test all my discs. & on another standalone that ive used before it says the discs arent able to be played. but i just realized they play fine in my dvd player that i do the actual burning on. by the way i appreciate the help alot.

TheMamba
2005-11-28, 08:01 PM
Burner going bad?

Standalone player going bad?

:confused:

RebINS6
2005-11-28, 08:11 PM
i actually have two burners & they both wont burn the concerts. but i backed up a movie form a dvd i had & that plays fine everywhere. im glad to see that im not the only one thats stumped here

RebINS6
2005-11-28, 08:38 PM
let me rephrase that last one. it came out wrong. i have 2 dvd burners on my comp. i tried burning the concerts on both of them. they play fine in my burners after they burn. but they jump around or wont play in any standalone. but i burned a dvd that i already owned to see if it would work. when i do that, the burned dvd plays everywhere.

TheMamba
2005-11-28, 09:50 PM
This is going to sound silly...but are you having problems with just one show?

Or ANY show now?

U2Lynne
2005-11-28, 10:14 PM
I'm not sure if this was brought up, but does you player play both NTSC and PAL? And what format was the DVD that you're having problems with?

RebINS6
2005-11-28, 11:20 PM
Ive dl'd 3 shows the past week. 2 dire straits & a mark knopfler concert. all didnt burn right.

dvd is -R. & as far as i know they are both supported

JDUB
2005-11-29, 12:36 AM
are you burning with nero in data dvd mode or video dvd mode?

the video dvd mode will set up the folders for you and everything, couldn't be any simpler. it also makes small changes to the .bup and .ifo sometimes that might solve your problem.

its set on dvd. new compilation. i goto nero express and my recorder is set on dvd rw dru-800a [dvd] i don't know how to check the difference between data and video.

AAR.oner
2005-11-29, 11:14 AM
Nero Express is probly the issue...

go to your program list and run Nero Burning ROM.
Select "DVD" and then "DVD-Video".
Nero will open the project window...drag ALL of the files in the show's Video_TS folder to the *red* Video_TS folder [left window].
Make sure yer proper disc drive is selected & Click Burn.

AAR.oner
2005-11-29, 11:18 AM
as Lynne said, are the show's NTSC or PAL? and is your standalone NTSC or PAL?

i'm guessing this might be the problem, unless you've got burners going bad or your standalone is dying...

RebINS6
2005-11-29, 11:59 AM
as Lynne said, are the show's NTSC or PAL? and is your standalone NTSC or PAL?

i'm guessing this might be the problem, unless you've got burners going bad or your standalone is dying...


1 of them is a PAL another is a NTSC, the 3rd doesnt say either way

AAR.oner
2005-11-29, 12:16 PM
aight...still doesn't explain why both the PAL and NTSC won't play...what model is your standalone?

RebINS6
2005-11-29, 12:39 PM
heres an update for you. i just burned the trey from vegoose dvd & it worked perefectly. but still a no-go on the dire straits. its a panasonic sa-dp1. but it plays my other burned concert dvds. im off to work though. thanks again for the help everyone.

AAR.oner
2005-11-29, 02:48 PM
from what i could find, it seems this is a PAL player [i could be wrong, but all the links google spit out were european]...i'm guessing you might be running into a NTSC vs PAL issue.

for the show thats not working, you can try this "cheat" rherron posted...it works *most* of the time [if indeed the problem yer having is NTSC/PAL]...you can get the program ifoedit [freeware] at one of the following sites:
http://www.ifoedit.com/
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd-r_tools/ifoedit.cfm
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/ifoedit-basic.htm

here's the guide for the cheat:
You can use a program called IFOEdit to sort of trick your DVD player into playing PAL DVDs, and it is VERY, VERY easy to do.

Using IFOEdit, open .IFO files. The program will have two windows of information. In the bottom window there will be lots of lines of text. Look for the lines (there will be 1 or 2 or more depending upon which IFO file you are looking at) of text containing the word "PAL." Double click those lines. A dialog box will open. There is a button to select PAL or NTSC. Select NTSC. Save the file. It will ask if you want to change the .BUP files as well. Answer "Yes." You're done. Burn away.

This is not a true conversion (PAL to NTSC) but changing the info files like this will trick many DVD players into believing this is an NTSC recording. I have heard it will not work on all DVD players but it works great on mine. No problems whatsoever. It does nothing to alter the actual video files, so there is no deterioration of the quality. It is my understanding that many (most?) newer DVD players are capable of playing both NTSC and PAL though they are not sold that way (perhaps because of pressure from the movie industry because it helps make it easier for them to maintain its region encoding system -- just a guess).

The worst thing that could happen is that it wouldn't work on your player and you'd have wasted $.50 cents on a DVD+R. Back up every file in the "VIDEO_TS" folder that is not a video (VOB) file and if this doesn't work for you you can restore the folder to it's original state (this is also a good idea in case you ever wish to trade the show or reseed it, etc.).

Rob

RebINS6
2005-11-29, 07:18 PM
thanks alot. ill try this out when i get home.

JDUB
2005-11-30, 08:46 AM
Nero Express is probly the issue...

go to your program list and run Nero Burning ROM.
Select "DVD" and then "DVD-Video".
Nero will open the project window...drag ALL of the files in the show's Video_TS folder to the *red* Video_TS folder [left window].
Make sure yer proper disc drive is selected & Click Burn.


ok, i go to nero burning rom se, it comes up with a new compilation box that has dvd selected and dvd video selected. i also have to select new or cancel or nero express or open. i chose new and it opened up the dvd burning rom. i do not see the red folder. all i see is disc with "new" next to it. how do i get the red folder?

AAR.oner
2005-11-30, 09:09 AM
:hmm: there should be the disc "new"--with an Audio_TS folder and a Video_TS folder [red] ...not to be an ass, but are you sure you didn't select one of the DVD-ROM options instead of DVD-Video?

if you've selected DVD-Video for sure, try creating an Audio_TS folder [leave empty] and drag the show's Video_TS folder from the browser to the project...then burn...

JDUB
2005-11-30, 09:39 AM
:hmm: there should be the disc "new"--with an Audio_TS folder and a Video_TS folder [red] ...not to be an ass, but are you sure you didn't select one of the DVD-ROM options instead of DVD-Video?

if you've selected DVD-Video for sure, try creating an Audio_TS folder [leave empty] and drag the show's Video_TS folder from the browser to the project...then burn...


trust me, you are not being an ass. :)


you were correct i didn't have dvd video selected. i had dvd rom. i'm gonna try it now.

JDUB
2005-11-30, 10:57 AM
ok. i'm here at work :(

i threw the dvd in the dvd player. it did not play. i think i can remember it saying "prohibited by limitations"

but i am watching it on my computer here it work.

fyi i am trying red hot chili peppers live at slane castle. i got it from the same place i got u2 chicago.


they both d/l the same way. a bunch of rar looking files. i extracted the 1st one and it extracted the folders. audio and video. i have been trying to burn the video file only. do i need to try to burn both folders?

any ideas? :confused:

fanofthemule
2005-11-30, 01:23 PM
Maybe it's PAL format and your DVD player will only play NTSC?

JDUB
2005-11-30, 03:12 PM
Maybe it's PAL format and your DVD player will only play NTSC?


is there a way to convert this to NTSC.

also, what is PAL and NTSC mean?

sorry for being such a rookie

you guys are a big help and i appreciate it. :wave:

svpluto2
2005-11-30, 04:35 PM
Hi.
I have a downloaded DVD but my burner says that the burning will result in a faulty disc as there is a video_ts.vob file missing. How can I reauthor the dvd?
Thanks.
p.

fanofthemule
2005-11-30, 06:02 PM
This thread should help:

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6599

My suggestion is to go buy a cheap DVD player e.g. Coby or Apex. They can be found at any retailer (Best Buy, WalMart) and are very cheap - $25 - $40. They will play all formats and you'll never have to worry about lossy conversions.

rherron
2005-11-30, 06:13 PM
JDUB,

If you want the long answer follow these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL.

The short versions is NTSC is the video format for American television (I'm assuming you're in America) and PAL is the video format for (primarily) European television. The two are incompatible.

PAL does not generally work on American video equipment and vice versa, though this is becoming much less the case. More than likely, if the video is indeed PAL, you are going to have to convert it to NTSC to get it to play right on your DVD player. It is very easy to do. Follow the link above and look at my suggestion. Or you could buy a DVD player that plays both PAL and NTSC video (I think that’s unnecessary personally).

Rob

JDUB
2005-11-30, 06:58 PM
i went back and looked at the file and it says PAL on the torrent d/l.


looks like i need to convert to NTSC.


thanks for the help.

:clap:

AAR.oner
2005-11-30, 09:17 PM
you shouldn't have to reauthor anything from this site...you can help us help you by lettin us know:

1. which show is it?
2. what program do you use for burning?

JDUB
2005-12-01, 12:59 AM
i read on another thread that nero allows you to convert pal to ntsc.


anyone know how to change the settings to do this?

Karst
2005-12-01, 07:33 AM
I wouldn't trust Nero to do that.

Check this: http://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=209166

pawel
2005-12-01, 09:51 PM
Yep, it won't play. video_ts.vob file keeps info on DVD structure and main menu.

gsmyth79
2005-12-02, 01:06 AM
I think we need a "how to burn a DVD" sticky in this forum. I'd be happy to write one for Taost on Mac. Many new threads from this week exemplify this need.

JDUB
2005-12-03, 02:26 PM
I wouldn't trust Nero to do that.

Check this: http://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=209166


is there a reason why?

Karst
2005-12-05, 12:01 PM
Sorry, there was link there to how to do PAL to NTSC - but it is actually not very good. Ignore it - sorry. :cool:

piper24
2005-12-06, 06:23 PM
I recently downloaded a phish video from this site and am having a problem burning it. All the other videos I've downloaded have been split into two sets. This one is all together in one folder. Its two big to burn all of it on one disk and when I try to split it up and burn half of it with nero I keep getting errors saying I need all the files together. How can I split this up so I can burn it on two disks. Any help is much appriciated.

saltman
2005-12-07, 02:54 PM
If this was a dvd9 (dual layer - 8.5GB) disc and you are trying to put it on a dvd5 (single layer - 4.7GB) disc you will need to compress it with DVDshrink. If you won't to split it up you will lose the menus. I think DVDShrink can do this also.... but someone with more experience may need to comment on that.

mmcneer
2005-12-07, 04:20 PM
I just downloaded my first video from the site. Will any dvd burning software recognize the file types that i downloaded or will i need software to convert the files before i can burn them. Any help would be great.

saltman
2005-12-07, 04:23 PM
I just downloaded my first video from the site. Will any dvd burning software recognize the file types that i downloaded or will i need software to convert the files before i can burn them. Any help would be great.

you should NOT have to convert anythig downloaded from this site. Only pre authored DVDs are for download here. Any software should be able to burn them without issue. However, if you don't want to burn onto dual layer dvds (DVD9 - which are pretty darn expensive) you will have to convert them to DVD5 for burning onto a single layer disc. This conversion will only be required for burning dvd9s onto dvd5 media. does that make sense?

mmcneer
2005-12-07, 11:14 PM
saltman;

thanks for the help. a second question for you. when converting from DVD9 to DVD5, will most burning programs do that, or will i need to find software to do the converting. Thanks again!

rhundley
2005-12-08, 02:17 PM
i just explained how to split a dvd9 into two dvd5's here.. http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?p=260460#post260460

DONT shrink this video..trust me, it's a huge difference in quality wise for this particular show...just follow the directions for ifoedit in the above link, it's easy

micenzo
2005-12-11, 11:01 AM
I have this problem: I got original beatles show on 2plies dvd (or whatever it is called), but my player dont support those double dvds. So i found out a friend of mine has dvd rom that can read doulbe dvds. Now what I need is a program that converts double dvd into normal format, so I can burn it and then enjoy on my player(pal). thank you in advance :wave:

saltman
2005-12-11, 11:24 AM
dvdshrink

bob_ross
2005-12-11, 11:36 AM
"Double DVDs" are more commonly called "dual layer DVDs" or "DVD9s". Normal DVDs are called "DVD5s".

doberman
2005-12-11, 12:18 PM
dvdshrink

DVDShrink is free for the downloading - the BEST program (gives the best resolution) - it's very easy to use - I think the current version is 4 - you can easily split that Dual Layer DVD onto TWO single layer DVD's with the program without losing any resolution - it does a bunch more as well - you should check it out - look on Ebay and it is available a lot of times on sale at various places on the net via download, so check around.

reece
2005-12-11, 12:40 PM
I was under the impression that all players supported dual layer discs. Does your player have any problems with movie DVD's that you have rented or bought? A great many, if not most are dual layer. Especially if they have lots of extra features. Are the DVD's -R or +R? Maybe your player has a problem with one of those formats or with burned DVD's in general.

gsmyth79
2005-12-11, 03:04 PM
All players support dual layer, but not all burners are capable of burning dual layer.

garrettt3
2005-12-12, 07:46 PM
i have the trey dual layer 10,000 lakes show. i have a dual layer burner and all but I cant add the two folders. set 1 and set 2 to nero becuase set2 has the same vob file names as set 1. any idea how I can burn the 2 folders successfully to one DL disc. Thanks

diggrd
2005-12-12, 08:52 PM
i have the trey dual layer 10,000 lakes show. i have a dual layer burner and all but I cant add the two folders. set 1 and set 2 to nero becuase set2 has the same vob file names as set 1. any idea how I can burn the 2 folders successfully to one DL disc. Thanks
This show? http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13211
If so that's a 2 disc show, Full Size: 10.14 GB won' fit on 1 disc.

gsmyth79
2005-12-12, 08:54 PM
Each set is a separate DVD9.

sadu
2005-12-12, 10:52 PM
That answers the question in this case.

I think garrettt3 was thinking if he had set 1 and set 2 of a show. Both being 4 gb why couldn't he just put both sets on one cd.

He said he was having a problem with two VTS_01_1.VOB, VTS_01_2.VOB etc in the same folder.

You need to author the DVD as a DVD9. You cannot simply put both folders in the Video_ts. It's a pain to reauthor if you don't have a fast computer so it's not worth it IMO. Plus dvd9's are much more expensive so that's another reason for the time being.

gsmyth79
2005-12-12, 11:00 PM
They are both ~4.7 GB, but a full DVD5 is 4.36 GB. So It's just over the limit of a DVD5. If you compress this, you will lose no quality, practically speaking.

You can use DVDshrink to compress to fit on a DVD5. There's no need to burn a $3 disc when it's only going to be a little over half full.

The reason it was originally seeded this way was because the original author didn't want to compress the video at all. It came to an inconvenient size at the end (eg barely over the soze of a DVD5 for each set), but he's seeding it out in the best possible quality and letting the downloaders do what they want with it after they get it.

And what sadu said is right. Say you download 2 DVDs that are only ~1.5 GB each. It's actually a real pain in the ass to get them both on the same DVD because you need to reauthor the entire thing. With blank media so cheap nowadays, thankfully that's not necessary.

Qstick333
2005-12-14, 07:43 PM
I am a newbie and just received my 1st dvd. I also just installed my new dvd burner and everything seems to be going well. I hope I used the proper software. I used dvd decrypter to rip the files to my harddrive. What software should I be using to create my own dvd of the show? The burner came with Nero Suite (i have ever used it before) but I am not sure I can burn with that?

Thanks for any help,

Zach

EPR66
2005-12-14, 07:58 PM
You can also use DVD Decrypter to burn:

1. Select Mode -> ISO -> Write
2. Open your created .ISO file.
3. Select your DVD Writer
4. Burn the DVD by clicking the HD>DVD-image

Qstick333
2005-12-14, 08:32 PM
Thanks - but I don't think I have any files that are .iso (not sure what that means), but when I tried following your directios, I couldn't get anything to come up. I found the files on my harddrive and they appear to be tvs files?

Zach

micenzo
2005-12-15, 02:31 AM
All players support dual layer, but not all burners are capable of burning dual layer.

you are so wrong dudes. Here where I live nearly nothing plays duals. Believe it or not.

And thank you for the advices :wave:

reece
2005-12-15, 03:09 AM
you are so wrong dudes. Here where I live nearly nothing plays duals. Believe it or not.

And thank you for the advices :wave:


Do you have any problems playing officially released movie DVD's? Try and see. Get a long movie like Lord of the Rings. If the problem is dual layer discs then you won't be able to play it. Like I said, lots of movies are on dual layer discs. It wouldn't make any sense to manufacture a product that does not play a great deal of the media it is intended to.

TheMamba
2005-12-15, 05:36 AM
Do you have any problems playing officially released movie DVD's? Try and see. Get a long movie like Lord of the Rings. If the problem is dual layer discs then you won't be able to play it. Like I said, lots of movies are on dual layer discs. It wouldn't make any sense to manufacture a product that does not play a great deal of the media it is intended to.

Ditto.

jthixton
2005-12-15, 06:40 PM
You can also use DVD Decrypter to burn:

1. Select Mode -> ISO -> Write
2. Open your created .ISO file.
3. Select your DVD Writer
4. Burn the DVD by clicking the HD>DVD-image

I downloaded a DVD from this site (ween_vegoose), I'm trying to burn it to DVD (nero's pissed me off with error messages), I'm trying to use DVD Decrypter as above, but there are no ISO files in the Video_TS folder. Do I need to create one, and how??

Thx

EPR66
2005-12-15, 07:32 PM
I hope this helps:

http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/small_dvd_2_dvdr.cfm

jthixton
2005-12-15, 08:04 PM
Thanks, I forgot about Afterdawn.. I found this page, maybe a little more appropriate for folder burning .. http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/burn_dvd_folder_dvd_decrypter.cfm

I ended up just using Nero express.. it told me "DVD-video files compliance test failed. The resulting DVD-Video might be unplayable" when I went to burn.. but i did it anyway, and plays in my DVD player just fine.. :hmm:

Thx again :)

diggrd
2005-12-18, 10:07 AM
It's possible that a DVD player would not work with DVDR / Dual Layer but may work with commercially produced Dual Layer discs.

jaytarn
2005-12-18, 12:01 PM
Hi all,

I'm pretty new to DVD burning, but I am a very techinally savvy computer user.

I need some advice/help...

"A friend of mine" recieved a dvd that plays Ok on a computer but does not play OK on a DVD player. When played on a DVD player the video has "horizontal hold" problems. It's very possible this DVD originated in Europe.

I assume this means the original DVD had some form of copy protection and the person who copied it just did a disk copy instead of a "rip & burn" method to strip the copy protection.

Is my assumption correct ? Can I correct this without the original DVD ?

I tried using DVDFab Decrypter on the DVD, but the copy it generated has the same problem.

Thanks for any suggestions or info..

micenzo
2005-12-18, 12:28 PM
oh holly hell, i mean those cheap players from tesco or whereever, they dont play dual. Its original dvd all bought and all. So my doesnt play duals, I got dvd shrink and will decode. thanks :wave:

Zeromancer
2005-12-18, 01:36 PM
Hi all,

I'm pretty new to DVD burning, but I am a very techinally savvy computer user.

I need some advice/help...

"A friend of mine" recieved a dvd that plays Ok on a computer but does not play OK on a DVD player. When played on a DVD player the video has "horizontal hold" problems.

I assume this means the original DVD had some form of copy protection and the person who copied it just did a disk copy instead of a "rip & burn" method to strip the copy protection.

Is my assumption correct ? Can I correct this without the original DVD ?

I tried using DVDFab Decrypter on the DVD, but the copy it generated has the same problem.

Also is the DVD PAL or NTSC??
Thanks for any suggestions or info..
Run it through a program called IFOedit and see if the video properties match what a standalone dvd is.

jaytarn
2005-12-18, 02:40 PM
So can anyone tell me if the horizontal hold issue is an artifact of copy protection ?? or NTSC vs PAL ?

How can I tell if the DVD is NTSC or PAL ?? Below is an IFOEdit copy of the VIDEO_TS.IFO:

[00000000] VMG Identifier DVDVIDEO-VMG
[0000000c] Last Sector of VMG 5 [00000005]
[0000001c] Last Sector of VMGI 2 [00000002]
Specification version number v1.1
[00000022] VMG Category 0 [00]
[00000023] VMG Category, Regional Code mask 0 [00]
Region: 1 enabled.
Region: 2 enabled.
Region: 3 enabled.
Region: 4 enabled.
Region: 5 enabled.
Region: 6 enabled.
Region: 7 enabled.
Region: 8 enabled.
[00000024] VMG Category 0 [0000]
[00000026] VMG Number of Volumes 1 [0001]
[00000028] VMG This Volume 1 [0001]
[0000002a] Disc side 1 [01]
[0000003e] VMG Number of Title Sets 1 [0001]
[00000040] Provider ID MacTheRipper
[00000060] VMG POS Code 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
[00000080] End byte of VMGI_MAT 1291 [0000050b]
[00000084] First Play PGC start byte (FP_PGC) 1024 [00000400]
[000000c0] Start sector of VMGM_VOBS 0 [00000000]
[000000c4] Start offset of VMG_PTT_SRPT 1 [00000001]
[000000c8] Start offset of VMGM_PGCI_UT 0 [00000000]
[000000cc] Start offset of VMG_PTL_MAIT 0 [00000000]
[000000d0] Start offset of VMG_VTS_ATRT 2 [00000002]
[000000d4] Start offset of VMG_TXTDT_MG 0 [00000000]
[000000d8] Start offset of VMGM_C_ADT 0 [00000000]
[000000dc] Start offset of VMGM_VOBU_ADMAP 0 [00000000]

[00000100] Video attributes of VMGM_VOBS 0 [0000]
Video attribute details:
Video compression MPEG-1
TV system NTSC 525/60
Aspect ratio 4:3
Automatic Display Mode pan-scan & letterboxed
CC for Line21-1 (NTSC only) no data
CC for Line21-2 (NTSC only) no data
Bit Rate VBR
Source Resolution 720x480 (NTSC)
Letterboxed top&bottom cropped no
Mode Camera
[00000103] Number of audio streams in VMGM_VOBS 0 [00]
[00000104] Audio_1: VMGM audio attributes 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
[0000010c] Audio_2: VMGM audio attributes 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
[00000114] Audio_3: VMGM audio attributes 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
[0000011c] Audio_4: VMGM audio attributes 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
[00000124] Audio_5: VMGM audio attributes 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
[0000012c] Audio_6: VMGM audio attributes 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
[00000134] Audio_7: VMGM audio attributes 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
[0000013c] Audio_8: VMGM audio attributes 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ]
[00000155] Number of Sub-picture streams in VMGM 0 [00]
[00000156] Sub-pic_1: VMGM Sub-picture stream attributes 0 0 0 0 0 0 [00 00 00 00 00 00 ]

Thanks again..

rherron
2005-12-18, 05:02 PM
You must open all ifo files and look in the bottom window at those lines of text. You are just looking for instances of NTSC or PAL. If you see the words PAL anywhere you might have a problem.

Go up to the Technobable Archive and scroll down one or two posts to a thread entitled PAL to NTSC (or something like that) and look in there at my post. It explains how to "convert" one to the other.

Rob

diggrd
2005-12-18, 07:23 PM
You mean like this one? (http://www.tesco.com/electrical/product.aspx?R=8266171&bci=276|DVD%20and%20Video) Or even cheaper? That just doesn't seem right although you get what you pay for I guess :wave:

lastepic
2005-12-19, 08:08 AM
One very important point to remember, using the IFO method you aren't actually 'converting' anything - you are just 'tricking' your DVD player into thinking it's playing an NTSC disc. If your player- or your TV - has no PAL support at all, you will still not get it to play correctly.

There is another inherent problem. Athough the DVD 'standards' were drawn up to make all things equal, the two formats have different 'standards'..For instance, PAL includes MPEG audio in it's permitted standards- NTSC does not, so many manufactured for NTSC markets DVD players will not handle anything that has got MPEG audio. So, even if you've got a DVD player that you know can handle the PAL format discs because it's played back a pre-recorded disc in the past, it may well not play a 'homemade' PAL disc that uses MPEG audio. This usually shows itself in a strange way- the sound will play back ok, but the picture will either freeze or you'll get very choppy, blocky video.

To be honest, the best solution is to grab a cheap player that can handle anything you throw at it. For instance, the Cyberhome 300-under $40 at best buy and under Ł20 with mail in rebates off the net - will first of all try to play the disc back in it's 'native' format- if it can't, it will do an 'on the fly' conversion which gives a very decent output. There are other players out there that will do this, but I know of the Cyberhome one as it's used by many people on other video/DVD lists i'm on.

jaytarn
2005-12-19, 09:28 AM
Thanks..

I understand that I would just be "tricking" the player into thinking it's playing an NTSC DVD.

Turns out that my DVD player supports both, but also had a setting for what the TV supported. That setting was set to "multi" even though my TV ONLY supported NTSC.

When I set that correctly, the DVD (even the original I was given ) will now play correctly on my TV and DVD players.

Now the question is will it work on "my friends" DVD player and TV ?? :confused:

Stay tuned.
And thanks for the education...

lastepic
2005-12-19, 09:48 AM
It's worth delving through his DVD (and TV ) settings to see if there is a settings change like you've done. A lot of times, even though the player doesn't say it's multi standard, it may well actually handle either format. It should do really, because you can buy commercially released 'Region 0' discs that could be either PAL or NTSC. Sometimes, manufacturers just 'mask' all of it's capabilites, so a Google search for your make model and then 'firmware' after it may well direct you to upgraded firmware that can turn your region 1, NTSC only machine into a multi region, multi format one.


It's more likely to be the TV that causes the problem because very few North American TV's have PAL compatibility.

Finding out whether your disc is PAL or NTSC-probably the easiest way is to use your DVD playing software. I use Power DVD, and on that, with the DVd playing, just right click the screen and choose 'Configuration' and the info will tell you what the TV format is.

pyro
2005-12-21, 01:02 AM
Hey Toto, check this out and then see if ffooky or Graham or pyro checks in:

http://u2lynne.sandsmuseum.com/burning.html#anchor9

hey that's me :wave: .... too bad i'm 2 months late and don't know the answer anyway though

wilson
2005-12-21, 01:07 AM
the simplest way to burn a video_ts on a mac can be done very easy with out pay ware

google dvd imager for mac ....download that small free program....simply image the dvd and then use the disk utility to burn the image

lynne link is the way to go :)

ffooky
2005-12-21, 10:48 AM
If DVD Imager doesn't work for a particular vid, you can try LiquidCD (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/28483) which will be free for a little while longer at least.

micenzo
2005-12-24, 08:08 AM
Oh fellas, I am drawning here. In my country, double layers DVDs arent standard. they're not sold around here. They are comming on the market slowly, with the players. I got this dvd (the beatles 2layers one) from a friend, who's sister lives in holand, she got it from there.

Is anyone going to believe? one more time: In my country, double layers DVDs arent standard. (i love copy and paste) :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

alfienoakes101
2005-12-24, 03:16 PM
Is anyone going to believe? one more time: In my country, double layers DVDs arent standard.

I hate to contradict you, but dual-layer DVD players are standard everywhere, and as far as I know, always have been. Even the cheapest players you can buy. I'm pretty certain that it would be more expensive for manufacturers to build and stock two variants, than to have a single standard.

I believe that the issue of single and dual-layer drives only arose with the advent of the DVD burner, and even single-layer burners function as dual-layer ROM drives. Perhaps your issue is something else. There are double-sided, as opposed to dual-layer discs. Could that be what we're talking about?

There is a simple way to verify whether you can play dual-layer discs. Take some commercial DVD's that do work in your player, place them in your PC's drive, go to "My Computer", and right-click the disc to get the properties of the DVD. If the used space value on any of those discs is over 4.4GB, then they are dual-layer.

micenzo
2005-12-25, 11:16 AM
I believe that the issue of single and dual-layer drives only arose with the advent of the DVD burner, and even single-layer burners function as dual-layer ROM drives. Perhaps your issue is something else. There are double-sided, as opposed to dual-layer discs. Could that be what we're talking about?

There is a simple way to verify whether you can play dual-layer discs. Take some commercial DVD's that do work in your player, place them in your PC's drive, go to "My Computer", and right-click the disc to get the properties of the DVD. If the used space value on any of those discs is over 4.4GB, then they are dual-layer.

I will check it (aint home now.) but the matter is, No one can play this dvd, no one I know, but one person with some fucking expensive dvd burner that can read it. will check what it is. Merry christmas to all :wave:

micenzo
2005-12-27, 03:38 PM
Oh fuck, how can I check it, when I insert that dvd into my PC SONY dvd reader and it shows nothing? No CD/DVD inside?

bvm
2005-12-28, 12:08 PM
Hi there.

I have just finished downloading Heavy Metal Kids (all 12gb of it-phew!), anyway, If i want to convert it to its full 3 disc glory, what do I do- all the files are in DVD format, and are recognised by Nero showtime. Is it simply a matter of burning all the files to DVD?, or do I have to use an authoring app like Sony DVD architecht?

Thanks in advance, and merry xmas to everone

Five
2005-12-28, 12:58 PM
for each disc you'll see a VIDEO_TS folder that you downloaded with .vob, .bup & .ifo files.

when you burn you need to use this VIDEO_TS and also an empty AUDIO_TS folder and nothing else on the DVD. Take a look at how any dvd in your collection looks when you view it in explorer and you'll get an idea how your burned disc should look.

Nero has a "VIDEO DVD" mode that creates the folders for you.

no reauthoring necessary!

hope this helps

happy holidays

bvm
2005-12-28, 02:03 PM
Thankyou so much.

This is by far the best bootlegging hotspot on the net, everyone is so wonderfully kind and helpful, its how the net should be.

Also, I want to get my ratio up, but am having slow up speeds. My ports are forwarded, and I'm using BitLord (it seems noone else is, so that could be my problem!). Please Help me to help!

Thanks a bunch

Five
2005-12-28, 02:14 PM
we were just talking about this over here:
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16177

you're welcome

btw, "bootlegging" means ca$h, so I much prefer if you call this a "trading hotspot"! ;)

brimstone
2005-12-28, 04:28 PM
Thankyou so much.

This is by far the best bootlegging hotspot on the net, everyone is so wonderfully kind and helpful, its how the net should be.

Also, I want to get my ratio up, but am having slow up speeds. My ports are forwarded, and I'm using BitLord (it seems noone else is, so that could be my problem!). Please Help me to help!

Thanks a bunch

Bitlord has a quite bad reputation for various reasons and is banned on many trackers. Many people recommend the new client µtorrent but i'm still using Azureus out of old habit.

bvm
2005-12-28, 06:13 PM
Once again, best TRADING spot on the net (much better than DIME imho)

Anyway, the dvds worked a treat, thankyou. :clap:

I have changed to µtorrent, and turned off DHT, so we will have to see how it goes.

Thanks a bunch guys!

Drewa311
2005-12-29, 10:58 PM
Ther may very well be a thread on thi, if so please direct me, i couldnt find it using the seach tool. but i have this dell that a friend gave me, and ive had it for awhile now, come to find out theres a dvd burner on it, but whenever i try to put in a dvd-r is spits it out sayin please put in a blank disc, i was wondering if there is any setting or somthing that can be done that will allow this computer to burn on to -Rs, any info would be great! thank you

alchemy71085
2005-12-30, 12:15 AM
You haven't said if you positive that your DVD burner is capable of only reading and burning on DVD+R media.

If this is the case, you may only use this type of media. If it's not, try using a different brand of DVD-R discs, as different companys use different dyes on the discs that your drive may or may not recognize.

Drewa311
2005-12-30, 01:55 AM
oh it can read them, its not like i cant copy only +rs to +rs, i dont think ive tried to play a -R on it, but i will, i have also tried at least 4 trpes of -rs andnone of them worked.

U2Lynne
2005-12-30, 12:46 PM
It may be that it can only burn +Rs, not -Rs. My computer can read both +Rs and -Rs, but can only burn -Rs.

lostboy
2005-12-30, 10:48 PM
I got a Dell summer of 2003, it can only burn +R, +RW. I think it was that fall they changed the default/available DVD burner to +/-R. When I got mine, they didn't even offer +/-R burner.

So, if your friend bought it earlier than fall of 2003, it's probably +R burner only.

MightyBurn
2006-01-06, 07:52 AM
Now that I've got some shows dl'ed i'm trying to figure out exactly how to burn them. right now i'm using nero 6. do i need to add menus, chapters or anything else? or do i just add the video ts folder and burn? thanks for the help and patience.

MB

gretagun
2006-01-06, 08:34 AM
Menu's and chapters may be on the dvd files already. One way to check is to use a dvd player program like WinDVD or PowerDVD. You should be able to open the VIDEO_TS folder in those programs and view the dvd without burning it to disc. Every show I have d/l'd from this site have menus and chapters.

Burning these shows with NERO is simple. Just open Nero, and choose to make a Video DVD. You should then see two red folders, one labled "AUDIO_TS" and one labeld "VIDEO_TS". Forget about the AUDIO_TS folder, you don't need to do anything with that. Now all you need to do is to take every file in the VIDEO_TS folder of the show you d/l'd, and drag those into the red VIDEO_TS Folder in Nero, hit burn, and you are good to go. Just make sure that you are not dragging the MD5 or the textfile over, just the dvd files. Hope this helps

lostboy
2006-01-06, 09:54 AM
You can add a folder "EXTRAS_TS" to put any textfile or md5 in.

Saw this on here a while ago, haven't had any problem with it. This keeps all the files together, if you ever want to share/trade it later.

gretagun
2006-01-06, 01:18 PM
You can add a folder "EXTRAS_TS" to put any textfile or md5 in.

Saw this on here a while ago, haven't had any problem with it. This keeps all the files together, if you ever want to share/trade it later.

Nice tip, I will have to start doing that from now on.

gsmyth79
2006-01-07, 11:28 AM
Not all DVD players support the EXTRAS_TS folder. Most newer ones probably do I imagine.

lemon11
2006-01-08, 12:15 PM
[QUOTE=gretagun]
Burning these shows with NERO is simple. Just open Nero, and choose to make a Video DVD. You should then see two red folders, one labled "AUDIO_TS" and one labeld "VIDEO_TS". Forget about the AUDIO_TS folder, you don't need to do anything with that. Now all you need to do is to take every file in the VIDEO_TS folder of the show you d/l'd, and drag those into the red VIDEO_TS Folder in Nero, hit burn, and you are good to go. /QUOTE]
what version of nero are you running? I have what appears to be nero v6 which comes with neroVision Express Version 3, which launches automatically when you select that you want to burn a DVD... anyway, NOWHERE in this version of nero is a VIDEO_TS folder to just drag the info to and start a burn... I am totally having trouble with this too... any help would be much appreciated. Thank you!

lemon11
2006-01-08, 02:00 PM
ok, nevermind... I just figured this out. The trick is to NOT launch nero SmartStart and to just pick nero Express from the start menu and burn from there. Going into neroVision Express is just a pain in the...

gretagun
2006-01-08, 03:56 PM
Going into neroVision Express is just a pain in the...

Sorry, I should have mentioned that this was for using Nero ROM. Glad you got it to work.

hopenhower
2006-01-09, 11:31 PM
No matter what program you're using to burn with, a video DVD is just like a data DVD. You don't even have to bother with using Nero's option to burn a video DVD. Just burn a data dvd. Copy the VIDEO_TS folder to it. Whoever authored the DVD already put in the chapters, menus, etc. To be on the safe side, you may want to also include an empty folder called AUDIO_TS. There's never anything in it, but some older DVD players might require it.

HopOttin
2006-01-12, 04:18 PM
Another newbie here to dvd burning. :wave:
My burned dvds are freezing in the players I've tried, usually in the same spot, but different spots from dvd player to dvd player and from dvd to dvd. I'm using nero, which doesn't seem to let me burn at less than 4x and I support 8x. I shut everything else down and verify the data at the end but still encounter problems. The dvds play fine on my computer as do the downloaded files.
Do I just have a crumby dvd burner?

livedead13
2006-01-12, 04:32 PM
Nero has never worked for my burner. I have tried it several times, only to end up with errors.

I switched to CopyToDVD, and it works great. My burner supports 8x, but I always use 4x just to be safe. I have even tried burning at 2.4x, but that gave me errors too, so I just stick with 4x.

So your problem is quite possibly Nero and/or burn speeds.

HopOttin
2006-01-12, 06:00 PM
Other than nero and CopyToDVD, what are some of the other dvd burning software out there that folks use?

Crazy Fingers
2006-01-13, 07:48 PM
Hi, can someone help me get through the process of burning torrents to DVD so I can watch them on my TV? I don't have toast and have read a few different ways to do it, but still not sure.

IMAC FLAT PANEL W/ SUPERDRIVE
PIONEER DVD-R BURNER
G4 800MHz 10.3.9

Thank you :)

U2Lynne
2006-01-13, 07:55 PM
Here's some info on how to use DVD Imager and Disk Utility to burn one: http://u2lynne.sandsmuseum.com/burning.html#anchor11

Crazy Fingers
2006-01-14, 03:48 AM
Thank you very much U2Lynne :D Worked like a charm ;)
Grateful Dead 4/17/72 burned to DVD and playing on my TV :clap:
Thanks again!!! :wave:

nuclear_dj
2006-01-16, 02:21 PM
I'm another total novice about to dive in for the first time. I just got a sweet Tea Leaf Green vid DL'd. My pc doesn't have a DVD burner, so I use my Nomad as a jump drive and take large files to my bro-in-law's pc which does. He has Sonic Solutions' software. I've made data discs, but never video DVDs. I'm gonna guess that the same general rules apply as with Nero. Hopefully, I don't trash my spindle of blanks getting this done right!

jkturtle11
2006-01-17, 03:19 PM
im also having problems it plays great on my computer but shakes or has libnes through it on my tv i also got phish 2-16-97 and cant find the video ts files i think i need a new program,i just got this computer and it came with sonic,any suggestions would be greatly aappreciated frustrated turtle!

jkturtle11
2006-01-19, 11:10 AM
hi i just got into the burning dvd game, ive downloaded gd 10-28-90 and the mule 9-6-05,i used dvd shrink to encode and tehn dvd encrypter to burn,whicj goes ok but when i play it in my home pioneer dvd player,the whole screen shakes up and down,am i doing something wrong or do i need a new dvd player,im using dvd-r disks,im a little confused and i want to see jerry please help jkturtle

gsmyth79
2006-01-19, 11:31 AM
You don't need to encode DVDs that you download fromt this site. Don't do anything to the VIDEO_TS folder or its contents. They are all ready to be burned.

Sometimes the shot is shaky because the taper is holding the camera by hand and that isn't easy to keep steady. Also, check and/or post in the threads to see if other people mention anything about shakyness, but I'm guessing they're shaky because you "encoded" them.

So just try burning the files without doing anything to them first and see how that works.

fowler
2006-01-19, 06:18 PM
Alright so I'm kind of new to this whole DVD burning thing, and I just got by burner last week. Anyway I downloaded a Jack Johnson show and a Dead show and burned 'em to disc no problem.

Now the problem. I just finished downloading the Hendrix Atlanta Pop show and Nero want let me burn. I add the files to the program, and then this error report pops up.

NeroVision.exe - Application Error
X - The instruction at "0x006b6ce4" referenced memory at "0x01623a00". The memory could not be "read". Click OK to terminate the program.

Is this a problem with the files or with Nero. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!

Stephen

PyRo UK
2006-01-19, 06:41 PM
There are two things that pop ito my head straight away:
Firstly, if its a bad file, it won't work.
Also, if you're writing a video disc (you selected "video disc" rather than anything else in the Nero menu), and you don't have the correct format, it won't be able to write it. Try just writing a "Data disc" instead.

fowler
2006-01-19, 06:48 PM
Well I thought it might be a bad file, but of the 100s that have downloaded the show there's nothing in the discussion where anyone else had this problem.

So in order to make a data disc which files do I need to put in? Just the .vod files, right?

PyRo UK
2006-01-19, 06:50 PM
Just select data disc instead of video disc and then add the files to the root DVD directory instead of the DVD video directory.
...It won't play on a DVD player though.

jayroch
2006-01-19, 07:13 PM
Are you using nero vision express? The easiest way to burn a dvd downloaded from this site using nero is to use just nero expres. Open nero express and click on add video files. Add just the video ts folder from the download folder of the show you want to burn. Set your drive speed and click burn.

fowler
2006-01-19, 07:16 PM
Thanks for the info. I'll give it a shot and let ya'll know what happened.

AAR.oner
2006-01-19, 07:28 PM
So in order to make a data disc which files do I need to put in? Just the .vod files, right?
NO...you need to keep all files that come with a show if you plan on trading/seeding in the future.

first off, always use Nero Burning ROM. forget the rest of Nero's progs.

To burn a data disc [for archiving and trading in the future]:
-Open Nero Burning ROM.
-Select "DVD-ROM (ISO)" as yer project type.
-Drag the show's folder [including ALL FILES] to the project window.
-Burn

To burn a "watchable" copy [yer home DVD player]:
-Open Nero Burning ROM.
-Select "DVD Video" as yer project type.
-Select all of the files in the show's Video_TS folder [.ifo, .bup, & .vob files] and drag them to the RED Video_TS folder thats displayed in the project window.
-Burn.

NOTE: Some DVD players can play a "data disc"-type disc, but not all.

jishman
2006-01-19, 09:05 PM
So after what seems like days, 6-23-89 phish finally finished downloading. I've never burned a show before (and this is my first phish dvd), so I could use some guidance. The following files are in the folder:
VIDEO_TS (ISO file)
VIDEO_TS (VOB file)
VTS_01_0 (IFO file)
VTS_01_0 (VOB file)
VTS_01_1 (VOB file)
VTS_01_2 (VOB)
VTS_01_3 (VOB)
VTS_01_4 (VOB)
VTS_01_5 (VOB)
Video_TS.bup (BUP)
VTS_01_0.bup (BUP)

Which files do I have to burn, and in what order? Also, what are these file extensions? And lastly, the program that came installed on my computer is InterVideo WinDVD Creator. Do people have good experience with this program, or should I look into getting something else? Thanks in advanced for the help!
Jishman@<hidden>

diggrd
2006-01-20, 12:10 AM
So after what seems like days, 6-23-89 phish finally finished downloading. I've never burned a show before (and this is my first phish dvd), so I could use some guidance. The following files are in the folder:
VIDEO_TS (ISO file)
VIDEO_TS (VOB file)
VTS_01_0 (IFO file)
VTS_01_0 (VOB file)
VTS_01_1 (VOB file)
VTS_01_2 (VOB)
VTS_01_3 (VOB)
VTS_01_4 (VOB)
VTS_01_5 (VOB)
Video_TS.bup (BUP)
VTS_01_0.bup (BUP)

Which files do I have to burn, and in what order? Also, what are these file extensions? And lastly, the program that came installed on my computer is InterVideo WinDVD Creator. Do people have good experience with this program, or should I look into getting something else? Thanks in advanced for the help!
Jishman@<hidden>


You don't need a program like creator that is for authoring (creating) a DVD from your video files. You just want a burning program like NERO.

http://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?howtoselect=3;25#3;25

Check out this page and this heading

How to burn an already authored DVD-Video folder(VIDEO_TS)

KoolKat
2006-01-20, 09:15 AM
Er.........come on guys ....Application error
Its Nero

Try another burning proggy or un-install & then re-install Nero & follow AAR.oners 2nd set of instructions.
I stopped using there stuff for DvD's years ago.more headaches than a month on the piss.

I use the built in burning tool of Tmpg DvD Author 1.6

Open Tmpg DVD Author 1.6>Write DVD folder to DVD R/RW>Browse>load FOLDER>Write DVD
make sure you remove txt files,jpgs or whatever from the window on the left before you burn........you only want the VIDEO_TS folder in there

never had a coaster since.......Give that one a bash

K_K

AAR.oner
2006-01-20, 09:23 AM
if you have Nero, use Nero Burning ROM...its easiest/most reliable of the dvd burning progs [imo] for the windows os.

.iso, .ifo, & .vob files are all "DVD files" that are necessary for the DVD...you'll want to burn all of these [or the show won't work]...you will also want to keep any info text, md5 checksum, and artwork that came with the download to pass on with future trades [if you plan on trading shows].

tase2
2006-01-21, 03:13 PM
This is my situation. I downloaded a concert video through utorrent and is now sitting on my hard drive 2.4gb.
I want to burn it to DVD and play it in my DVDplayer.
I have PowerDVD v.6 and the latest upgrade of Nero 6.

How do I burn what I believe is a MPEG video file from my HD to the DVD-R so I can play it in my home DVD player (Sony DVPNS50 DVD)?

tase2
2006-01-21, 06:22 PM
Any suggestions?

AAR.oner
2006-01-21, 06:46 PM
i'm *assuming* the show is in a "Video_TS" folder and contains three file types: *.ifo, *.bup, & *.vob

to burn a copy for watching on yer home DVD player:
-open Nero Burnig ROM
-select "DVD-Video" as the compilation type
-select&drag ALL of the files from the show's Video_TS folder to the *Red Video_TS folder* in the project window [left side]
-burn the disc

donj600
2006-01-23, 06:07 AM
I'm hoping someone can help me out. Here's my problem, I downloaded 2 DVD shows and am using Nero DVD-VIDEO to burn them to a disk. I copy the entire VIDEO_TS folder to nero and when I play them the Menu doesn't work. Anyone have any ideas/suggestions on what I'm doing wrong or what I should do to get the menus to work?

Please Help!!

TheMamba
2006-01-23, 07:09 AM
Sounds like you're doing it correctly.

Are you sure that there are even menus in these DVD's?

bringdownthewall
2006-01-25, 12:27 AM
I am having the same problem. For me, the menu is treated like a video so I can't decide to do song selection or anything. I want the program to recognize the menus from the Video TS folder as menus. Any advice (I'm using a demo, if that changes anything)?

thisistoto
2006-01-25, 12:30 AM
Did you try to play it on a standalone?

Maybe you somehow burnt it as a data/iso.


Other than that it may be that you are BOTH using demo versions and for they disabled that feature.

Other than that it should work fine if you are dropping the entire content of the video_ts folder into the nero video_ts folder it sets up for you.

bringdownthewall
2006-01-25, 12:44 AM
Never mind. Got mine to work again. Sorry about that.

atlsportfanz
2006-01-25, 09:14 PM
Can I use this to burn DVD's? Or do I have to have a DVD-R or DVD-RW? I have Nero but it doesn't seem to offer me any way to burn DVD's without converting them to Video CD's. Any help would be appreciated.

diggrd
2006-01-25, 11:31 PM
What brand and model DVD-RAM? I know my LF-D310 DVD-RAM is only good for burning RAM and -R DVDs. I use it for RAM burning of archived master files only. What version of Nero are you using?

spiritinaphoto
2006-01-26, 12:04 AM
Yeah, we really need more information on the model of your drive first. My new external DVD drive can cope with DVD-RAM media (although I haven't tested RAM media on it yet), but it can also cope with everything but dual layer 'dash' media.

My drive is an LG GSA-5163D, which is detected by my computer as a HL-DL-ST DVDRAM GSA-5163D.

diggrd
2006-01-26, 08:10 AM
Yeah, we really need more information on the model of your drive first. My new external DVD drive can cope with DVD-RAM media (although I haven't tested RAM media on it yet), but it can also cope with everything but dual layer 'dash' media.

My drive is an LG GSA-5163D, which is detected by my computer as a HL-DL-ST DVDRAM GSA-5163D.
Wish my RAM could burn at 5X not that I've seen 5x dscs anywhere, I think I can upgrade to 2X if I get the latest firmware but then that drives gotta be 4 years old.

atlsportfanz
2006-01-26, 04:31 PM
I have a Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-820S model and Nero Express 6. After much searching, I found that Nero SmartStart, the opening screeen for my Nero didn't have DVD's on their startup screen. So after opening Nero Express, I found my DVD controls. It burned to my disc (Maxwell DVD-R) but won't play in either my Laptop's DVD or my DVD Player. I put every file in to burn and was wondering if there were any that I wasn't supposed to put. Do all the BUP, IFO, and VOB files need to be there? Obviously, the VOB files do but what about the others?

AAR.oner
2006-01-26, 04:56 PM
for starters, only use Nero Burning ROM and select the proper disc-type for what yer tryin to do [you can find Burning ROM in the Nero folder in yer programs list]...the rest of Nero's interfaces [smartstart, xpress, etc] will only screw stuff up...and yes, you need ALL the files in the Video_TS folder [.ifo, .bup, & .vob files]

to burn a "watchable" copy [i.e. on yer home DVD player]:
--Open Nero Burning ROM
--Select "DVD" and then "DVD-Video"
--Drag *all* the files from the show's Video_TS folder to the Video_TS folder in the project's window
--burn away

also, some home DVD players will only play DVD-R discs, some DVD+R, some both...also, some can play DVD-RAM discs and others can't...you'll have to look up yer particular model to find out

thisistoto
2006-01-26, 05:00 PM
What exactly is DVD RAm?

hopenhower
2006-01-26, 05:10 PM
It's as option some burners have to use a rewriteable DVD as kind of a hard drive. Most used with labtops so you can easily share with a PC. Kind of pointless IMO. On a laptop I just set up, it said I had to disable this option before I could burn a DVD. Just right-click the drive and unclick the option in properties.

atlsportfanz
2006-01-26, 08:08 PM
Thank you so much. That worked great. I appreciate everyone's help.

for starters, only use Nero Burning ROM and select the proper disc-type for what yer tryin to do [you can find Burning ROM in the Nero folder in yer programs list]...the rest of Nero's interfaces [smartstart, xpress, etc] will only screw stuff up...and yes, you need ALL the files in the Video_TS folder [.ifo, .bup, & .vob files]

to burn a "watchable" copy [i.e. on yer home DVD player]:
--Open Nero Burning ROM
--Select "DVD" and then "DVD-Video"
--Drag *all* the files from the show's Video_TS folder to the Video_TS folder in the project's window
--burn away

also, some home DVD players will only play DVD-R discs, some DVD+R, some both...also, some can play DVD-RAM discs and others can't...you'll have to look up yer particular model to find out

diggrd
2006-01-26, 10:43 PM
It's as option some burners have to use a rewriteable DVD as kind of a hard drive. Most used with labtops so you can easily share with a PC. Kind of pointless IMO. On a laptop I just set up, it said I had to disable this option before I could burn a DVD. Just right-click the drive and unclick the option in properties.It's true that with the low cost of external HDs they don't make a lot sense but they are a lot like HD's in the way data is stored on them. They were introduced for archiving data they are said to be good for 30 years, can be rewritten 100,000 times, it's drag and drop on an XP system like an external drive no burning program needed. Data written is automagically verified and they can come in a cartridge so data is very stable.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/DVD-RAM_FUJIFILM_Disc-removalble_Without_cartridge-locking-pin.jpg/540px-DVD-RAM_FUJIFILM_Disc-removalble_Without_cartridge-locking-pin.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/DVD-RAM_Detail_Sectors.jpg/800px-DVD-RAM_Detail_Sectors.jpg

I don't know what the drive in the laptop you have is where you are required to disable DVD-RAM in order to burn a DVD?

hopenhower
2006-01-27, 06:03 PM
I don't know what the drive in the laptop you have is where you are required to disable DVD-RAM in order to burn a DVD?

It was a Toshiba Satellite Notebook with their "DVD SuperMulti drive". Only a couple weeks old. I don't know who makes the drive. But everytime I started windows, a pop up would say that DVD Ram is enabled and this option must be turned off to burn DVD's. I wasn't interested in the DVD Ram, so I disabled it and removed the popup program from the windows run registry. I was just setting it up for someone else, so I didn't spend much time with it.

Hatfield21
2006-01-28, 10:22 AM
i have video but no audio... used the version of nero that came with my burner. any advice?? it's the phil lesh and friends 12-1-05 second set torrent

U2Lynne
2006-01-28, 12:07 PM
Did you burn it as a Video DVD or a data DVD? And does it play just fine on your computer? Also, has anyone else posted in the DVD thread about having problems with this DVD?

nokona
2006-01-28, 03:42 PM
i have video but no audio... used the version of nero that came with my burner. any advice?? it's the phil lesh and friends 12-1-05 second set torrent

Hatfield21 - I'm having problems as well. The files check out by the MD5 checksum, but when I burn DVD, it takes forever to burn and when done, the burn fails. I wonder if there is something wrong but haven't seen anyone else post problems. I'm using the latest version of Nero.

Hatfield21
2006-01-30, 09:49 AM
Hatfield21 - I'm having problems as well. The files check out by the MD5 checksum, but when I burn DVD, it takes forever to burn and when done, the burn fails. I wonder if there is something wrong but haven't seen anyone else post problems. I'm using the latest version of Nero.


it's taking me 2-3 hours to burn a dvd right now. it says that the capacity exceeds the normal dvd disk space, but it's on 4.39gb and the dvds i'm using (dvd+r) have a capacity of 4.7gb. when i go to burn it says i need to use a dvd 9?? and that it may cause problems or not burn correctly. i burned it again and it did the same thing...video and no audio. i guess i should check it on my pc first and see if it plays on it. also what is and where do you get a md5 checksum?


from the torrent post...
Please note that the audio on this set is ac3. I apologize but it was a video rendering mistake that would have put this disc over size. I didn't want to do a DVD9 and rather then compress the video I opted to compress the audio. It still sounds great if you don't like it then by all means do not download :-) Also Im looking for a quick turn around on this I wll be seeding at 90+kbs and will dropp off after a few completes. I have another project on the works that Im real excited about and want to get up in the next day or 2. Enjoy :-)

could that have something to do with the audio not showing up on my dvd?

inside'eye
2006-01-30, 09:57 AM
I had the same problem with john peel's led zeppelin'71 dvd,I solved it by opening two windows , one with the dvd files and the second with nero 6 "burn dvd files". And then slipped all the files over with my mouse, and then burn't with no problems in about 15 mins.

U2Lynne
2006-01-30, 10:31 AM
Could it be that you guys are leaving the md5 in the VIDEO_TS folder when burning it?

Hatfield21
2006-01-30, 10:48 AM
Could it be that you guys are leaving the md5 in the VIDEO_TS folder when burning it?


very well could be....did it take everyone else a hew tries to get the hang of this?? :lol:

U2Lynne
2006-01-30, 11:16 AM
Well, usually the person takes the md5 file out of the VIDEO_TS folder and puts it in the root folder before seeding the show. But, occassionally the forget. The only files that should be in your VIDEO_TS folder when you burn it are the BUP, IFO, and VOB files. All other files may be put in an EXTRA_TS folder and that folder may be burned at the root of the DVD (most DVD players will accept that).

asdfghjklzxcvbnm
2006-02-02, 11:14 PM
can somone tel me how to burn dvd9 format???

AAR.oner
2006-02-03, 07:29 AM
you'll need a dual layer DVD burner & dual layer DVDRs...any dvd burning program thats a fairly recent release should be able to burn DVD9s

Alpine97
2006-02-06, 11:28 PM
I want to burn from one dvd to another so I figure I need a program to rip from DVD to my hard drive.......just like with CD-R's. I use nero 6 to burn, don't know if that makes any difference (I would guess not). Anyways can someone please inform me of a very simple program to use to rip DVD's to my computer so that I can use all of my shows to trade not just the stuff on my HD. Thanks in advance-Matt

U2Lynne
2006-02-06, 11:43 PM
I believe you can use DVD Decryptor: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_decrypter.cfm

Mandolindan
2006-02-07, 03:53 AM
:hmm: OK....can i get some help putting these files onto a disc that i can watch on my dvd player? I am running out of room on my hard drive...I have no problem using universal front or MKW to be able to put the files onto c.d. but what do I do to burn the DVD? also i heard there might be a way to burn a video onto a cd-r and trick my dvd player to play it .... thanks for your help...dan

diggrd
2006-02-07, 05:53 AM
Do you have a DVD burner?
Do you have software to burn a DVD with? Which program is it?
Putting DVD files on CD requires re-encoding to VCD specs and will likely degrade the quality and should be done for personal use only. Does your DVD player support VCDs.

AAR.oner
2006-02-07, 08:33 AM
you don't need any program to "rip" with as long as the disc is not encrypted [shows from trading circles shouldn't have any encryption]

just nisert the disc, copy all of the files from the disc to yer HD...if yer trading, burn the show as a "data disc"...includethe show's Video_TS folder, as well as any md5 checksums/info text/artwork that came with the show...

U2Lynne
2006-02-07, 10:13 AM
I would suggest making an md5 checksum of the VIDEO_TS contents on the DVD prior to copying it to your harddrive. Then, after you have copied it, you can run the md5 check on the copied VIDEO_TS folder and verify that everything copied over correctly.

AAR.oner
2006-02-07, 10:15 AM
werd! what lynne said

Mandolindan
2006-02-07, 01:22 PM
I just DL the latest version of nero...and haven't had any luck ..I tried using their vcd program that says it converts the files and seems to work until the end when it doesnt. Has any one had any luck with this program? what if I was starting from scratch? what would i use once i have the show downloaded? What would i use to keep the quality of the show?

rhundley
2006-02-07, 01:31 PM
I just DL the latest version of nero...and haven't had any luck ..I tried using their vcd program that says it converts the files and seems to work until the end when it doesnt has any one had any luck with this program? what if I was starting from scratch? what would i use once i have the show downloaded? What would i use to keep the quality of the show?

with nero you can just use 'nero express'..once it opens up, click on dvd video files and add all the files you downloaded to the video ts folder. it's pretty easy and maintains 100% quality, stay away from vcd's if at all possible, and definitely don't convert a dvd file structure to vcd

Mandolindan
2006-02-07, 03:13 PM
using nero express I click on add and then i select the show and it says no compatible file found.. nero is asking for mp3 files ...but these aren't mp3's...when i use nero vision...it shows me the video..and i am able to create chapters ..it takes about 40 min.. (the length of the video) but once its finished it says error....

Mandolindan
2006-02-07, 03:32 PM
using nero express I click on add and then i select the show and it says no compatible file found.. nero is asking for mp3 files ...but these aren't mp3's.are they? ..when i use Nero Vision...it shows me the video..and i am able to create chapters .and when i burn.it takes about 40 min.. (the length of the video) but once its finished it says error.and the cd i used is still blank...

Shakes
2006-02-07, 04:38 PM
So, what are you trying to do here, burn a DVD-Video (with .vob files) or burn a DVD with data files (FLAC/SHN)?

AAR.oner
2006-02-07, 05:02 PM
do NOT use Nero Xpress...always use Nero Burning ROM [unless yer tryin to make a vcd, svcd, etc...but thats a waste of time if you can burn DVDs]

to burn a "watchable" copy [i.e. on yer home dvd player]:
--open Nero Burning ROM
--select "DVD-Video" as yer project type
--drag *all* of the files in the show's Video_TS folder [.ifo, .bup, & .vob files] to the RED Video_TS folder in the project window.
--burn

to burn a "data disc" [which is what you'll want to use for archiving & trading]:
--open Nero Burning ROM
--select "DVD-ROM [ISO/UDF]" as yer project type
--drag the entire show's folder to the project window [including the Video_TS folder, info text, the .md5 checksum, artwork, etc]
--burn

Mandolindan
2006-02-07, 05:22 PM
Thanks for everyones help.. especially AAR.oner...for spelling it out for me...I'm going to go buy some dvd r's right now and I'm let y'all know how it comes out..thanks again...dan

Mandolindan
2006-02-07, 09:15 PM
ok heres whats happenin...i'm using the nero burning ROM.. i put all the files in the red video folder..but when i click burn, there pops up an save image box, when i click ok it says not enough room to save image in my document, or desktop...wen i try to bypass (cancel) the image save, it says aborted by user and wont let me burn :hmm:

Mandolindan
2006-02-07, 09:41 PM
ok i discovered that i didnt have enough space on my harddrive to allow the image to be saved? what IS the image and why should i have to save it...futher...when i cleared up enough space to begin the burn..it said burn sucsessful...but wont play in my comp or my dvd player...(both new) my dvd player says it reads..dvd-rw..could it be that because i burned it on a dvd-r disc its not working? :wave: :wave: thanks for the help...

Shakes
2006-02-07, 10:08 PM
What type of DVD player do you have? Have you checked http://www.videohelp.com to look up your player and what disc formats it supports?

netyuppie
2006-02-07, 10:13 PM
you shouldnt have made an image. an image is just a copy of all the data which is or will be burnt to the disc. when you started nero burning rom, what did you select? not the default selected "iso" right?

AAR.oner
2006-02-07, 10:31 PM
i'm thinkin there are two possibilities for yer problem:

1) how large is the show yer tryin to burn? is it a DVD9 show [i.e. a dual layer disc-authored show]?

2) a DVD needs a certain amount of free harddrive space to burn properly...how full is yer harddrive?

Mandolindan
2006-02-07, 10:55 PM
thanks again for your help y'all it cant be my dvd player..cuz i realized i have been watching dvd-r discs my buddy sent from N.H. same type of disc.. when selecting nero rom i selected the DVD -video choice like your instructions said .. the show I'm burning is 2.33 G (the herbie hancock and headhunters from London )but I'm using a toshiba laptop that has 40 G total space with only 4.85 gig available...because I've been storing up some shows cuz i knew I wanted to learn how to burn..I guess I'll try to free up some more space and try again...this 40 G notebook is a pain

AAR.oner
2006-02-08, 08:11 AM
yup, its best to keep a bit more free space when burning DVDs...i'm guessing thats yer issue mandolindan

pawel
2006-02-08, 02:58 PM
I would suggest making an md5 checksum of the VIDEO_TS contents on the DVD prior to copying it to your harddrive. Then, after you have copied it, you can run the md5 check on the copied VIDEO_TS folder and verify that everything copied over correctly.

Files are copied as data hence if there is an error the process will be stopped. Of course I don't have in mind any 'recovery' software, which in most cases is useless as it produces partial files only.

Five
2006-02-08, 03:03 PM
I disagree, I have copied FLACs from a data cdr to a computer and had them fail testing. checksums aren't just for paranoids anymore

gregpua
2006-02-08, 08:27 PM
Not sure if this is the right forum,but what converter do you use to go from any compressed format to decompress it?

lepaul
2006-02-08, 09:28 PM
I wonder if anyone has run into this. I have a couple of duallayer dvd's that I've burned from video shows that were created for duallayer so over 4.7GB. There was no problem downloading the files, no problem in explorer when the files were on my HD, no problems burning to duallayer (NEC 3540A with newest firmware) and no problems playing the dvd's after.
However, and I noticed this right after the burning, when I pop the dvd back into my dvd-rom (either my regular dvd-rom or the nec), the info (VIDEO_TS folders, etc) does not show up in explorer. It's as if there is no data on the disc (even though it plays fine).
My problem is I would like to access the dvd to burn copies but I can't get it to show up for copying, either to HD, or to my TMPEng 1.6 software.

What gives? And how do I get around this?

Windows XP 2
1054 MB RAM
HP computer


Thanks

TheMamba
2006-02-08, 10:01 PM
Is this happening with only dual layer DVD's? :hmm:

jcrab66
2006-02-08, 10:04 PM
i have experienced the exact same thing with the only dual layer show i burned, havent tried it in a stand alone yet so i am not sure if its the disc or the puter....

gsmyth79
2006-02-08, 10:21 PM
The DVDs that you download from this site (VIDEO_TS folders) are not compressed and do not need to be converted in order to burn them.

lepaul
2006-02-08, 10:42 PM
Yes, it's only with duallayer dvd's - anything over a regular single layer 4.7GB file.

pawel
2006-02-09, 09:57 AM
Try to use Total Commander: http://www.ghisler.com

lepaul
2006-02-09, 10:37 AM
OK, I tried Total Commander. I get an error message: Drive not ffound on whichever drive I point it to that the duallayer dvd is in.
This whole thing is mystifying. The video show exists, I can play it on stand-alone and my PC, but why does the disc properties not show up in Explorer? It should be just data information to the computer, no matter what size it is.

I also thought perhaps it's the media. It's Verbatim DVD+R DL 8.5GB.

micenzo
2006-02-10, 12:22 PM
Alright, I have downloaded dvd video show. Now how do I burn it so its playable in dvd standalone player?

Might sound stupid but... I suck :(

armstron
2006-02-10, 01:34 PM
Hi, all -- searched a bit, but couldn't find specifics. Anyways -- after downloading dvd's, I have tried burning using a variety of programs. (roxio and nero specifically.) Whenever I create a new project, it involves creating a 'main screen' or menu screen. Most of the dvds I download already have menus created -- I assume I only want to use these, and not use the creation utility in the programs. When I have burned, it seems to 'double up' the menus -- ie. start with the menu I create, and then 'play' the downloaded menu as a part of the video. Any suggesions on how to bypass the 'creation' phase, and just use what has been downloaded. Am currently using NERO 7 demo version and Roxio 6.0. thanks.
Craig