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Re: mp3/lossless question for audiophiles...
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aac -- NO...i don't know how to say any other way but - we are a lossless-only site! whether you can hear the difference or not doesn't really matter...many of us can...if ya want lossy sources, there are plenty of other sites that'll meet your needs, we however are not going to change not to mention, i really can't think of one good reason to chose any codec other than flac, it pretty much gives the best in regards to quality vs data size vs universal support No members have liked this post.
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Re: mp3/lossless question for audiophiles...
uhhhhh...alright i guess or something
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Re: mp3/lossless question for audiophiles...
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It's not snobbery. When I drink water, I want to know it's clean, fresh, and not polluted by anything, such as humans washing their laundry in it, or animals p**ing in or near it. When I eat, I like to know where the food has come from - organic source, or not? Free range eggs or battery? Any GM ingredients? Being particular about my food intake isn't snobbery, likewise being particular about my audio intake isn't either. When I download, I like to know what the source was, and what it's been through before it reached me. I'm happy to hear something new on mp3 - as long as I KNOW it's an mp3 ... Regards, Graham No members have liked this post.
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I have come across a site that seems to have a lot of shows that have more than likely come from dime and here.These shows are all mp3 and the admin at this site sees nothing wrong with people sharing these orginally lossless recordings in mp3 to download.This is a quote from the admin on the site.
where is the moral of saying that someone could not transfer the show from flac to mp3 ? Is it the same as saying we can't record a live show? I explained that people go to the trouble/effort of recording a show and most people ask not to convert from flac to mp3( unless its for personal use). No members have liked this post.
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Re: MP3
You're right, he's a douche, and the only thing you can do about it is bitch, unfortunately.
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Re: MP3
People are stupid. I donīt know if itīs as hard as in Germany in other countries to tell people that MP3s are kind of retarded...what they canīt hear with their own ears, that does not exist. When I make a note on fan-forums and stuff that I have recorded this or that show, the first question always is: Could you upload the MP3s on Rapidshare?
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Re: MP3
First off, it's pretty unrealistic to upload a show to a site like this or Dime and expect that nobody is going to convert it to MP3. That's just reality.
Secondly, most people are going to prefer to take a 1/10 reduction in size accompanied by a minor (inaudible to most) decrease in sound quality. I don't know why this comes as a surprise to anyone. Thirdly, not everyone has fast internet connections. If you're more into appreciating the performance, rather than the subtle nuances of the floor tom's timbre, it can be a lot more practical to enjoy music in a compressed format that makes it much easier to acquire and share new recordings. Finally, whenever I see a description like this (not that much of an exaggeration based on some of the shows that get upped to Dime): Quote:
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Re: MP3
Good points. Each to his own, we donīt have any problems with people enjoying MP3s, itīs merely the spreading.
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Re: MP3
I don't really care if they share mp3's themselves. Not a fan of people expanding them & burning CD's to spread, or expanding & then flac-ing the lossy files, etc.
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Re: MP3
Well here's the thing. To clarify my original point...
First off, it wasn't my intention to denigrate the work that goes on at sites like this to propagate high-quality material. Obviously. I'm a heavy consumer of the stuff offered here. But more importantly, I think it's a complete red herring to worry about people sharing shows in MP3 format. I got my first CD burner in 1999, which means I've been trading bootlegs digitally for almost ten years. In that entire time, I've heard dire warnings about sharing recording in MP3 format, lest we "poison the well" or some such. And also in that time, two trends have been pretty hard to deny: 1) MP3 sharing of every possible type of music (including bootlegs) has increased exponentially. 2) The quality of digital offerings has gone steadily up. Every year it seems we see new, improved, sources for multiple classic shows, as well as new (formerly "unknown") performances by our favorite artists that are widely available for the first time due to lossless digital file-sharing. Conclusion: The proliferation of MP3 trading has absolutely ZERO effect on the prorogation of high-quality lossless material. End of story. The way to ensure that high-quality lossless material is available is to do exactly what the trading community has been doing all along: 1) Insist on material with known lineage. 2) Standardize the distribution formats (i.e. SHN or FLAC rather than audio CDs that require extraction). That way, everybody knows what they're getting, and when a new version comes along, it's easy to tell that it's new. Those are the practices that have improved the stock of available bootleg material to a degree that was almost unimaginable 10-20 years ago. And whether some other people are sharing the exact same material in MP3, or Xvid, or anything else is 100% immaterial. No members have liked this post.
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Re: MP3
I dont have any problem with people wanting mp3s,its the spreading of these mp3 shows that were lossless to start with.
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Re: MP3
it pisses me off equally that many "lossless traders" still take a lossless file set complete with info & checksum, burn it to an Audio CDR, then trade it out by extracting and re-burning to CDR [and never seem to include the info/checksums either]...to me thats just as aggravating, as is trading DVDs and not burning w/ checksums/lineage...but as james said, nothing you can do really
i usually try to politely educate, and a lot of times people will be fairly responsive...but if that doesn't work [as in this case above], i'll usually just make some snide closing remark like "you mean you can't can't hear the difference between a lossless wav and an 192k/s mp3?! you must either be deaf or a senior citizen, cuz i'm "middle-aged" and definitely have the ability to hear above 15kHz...sucks for you" No members have liked this post.
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Re: MP3
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Take a look at the lossy or lossless sub forum in technobabble. People post spectrum and frequency analyses screenshots in order to determine if their show is truly lossless. That's the only fail safe way to know for sure if it's truly lossless. Some shows get pulled for being lossy. I'm not sure how often it happens, but I've seen a few shows pulled here at TTD that were mp3 sourced (but shared as FLAC), and a video that was mpeg1 sourced (but shared as an authored DVD, which is required to be mpeg2). So there is a little pollution still happening. But I don't think that spreading mp3s on rapidshare or similar for those who want them is a bad thing. A lot of ppl listen to low fi systems (iPod ear buds, cheap computer speakers, etc.) exclusively these days so they probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway. They get to hear the shows, for free, in a relatively high quality format compared to yesteryear. Those are the most important things IMO. www.archive.org has FLACs as well as mp3s available for download for a lot of shows. No members have liked this post.
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Re: MP3
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if i had unlimited resources, every human being with a compute or home stereo would have a pair of at least halfway decent near-field monitors No members have liked this post.
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Re: MP3
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Obviously, TTD has the option of taking whatever steps they want to prevent lossy material from being posted here. That's the whole raison d'etre of the site. But to worry about what happens to it once it leaves your hands is foolish and unnecessary. The overlap between quality-obsessive traders and casual mp3 users is so small as to be virtually irrelevant. Quote:
Most of the lossy material that shows up in a place like this is undoubtedly due to newbie mistakes, and most of them will probably get picked off for other mistakes (e.g. missing or incomplete lineage) before it's necessary to haul out the spectrometers. Quote:
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