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LuvGlimmerTwins
2010-07-04, 10:19 AM
A file set with the same .ffps was banned as lossy elsewhere. Since the torrent is running here,
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=83374
I ask for confirmation if it truly is lossless.
The Swingin' Pig Records
Original Silvers CD > EAC test & copy > FLAC
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad48/brisance102302/SA-3secD1T12WSTS_6-23-72RS.png
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad48/brisance102302/FAD1T12WSTS_6-23-72RS.png
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad48/brisance102302/FAD2T14WSTS_6-23-10RS.png
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad48/brisance102302/SAfullD2T14WSTS_6-23-72RS.png

Thanks in advance for any help forthcoming:)

tonebloke
2010-07-05, 01:51 AM
G'day A. I wouldn't necessarily call them lossy but that second set of pic's has had a lot of "work" done to it. How does it sound ? Is it "strangled" ?

LuvGlimmerTwins
2010-07-05, 08:48 AM
Hiya, T!
Thanks for the input. It is studio outs, has a bit of hum, and can be muddy in places, clear in others, and hot in some, but doesn't sound 'strangled' to me ;-)
'Course, it's 70's RS from TSP..
:lol:
A

tonebloke
2010-07-06, 02:23 AM
To be honest, I haven't seen Specs like these before (I'm only learning) and would hazard to guess that something was done in the studio to get that sort of display.
Considering that there is no definitive cut-off within the Specs I would not call for lossy.

Yoda
2010-07-06, 02:25 AM
help you, I will

post the spectrum analyzer in color with a 2-3 second span, you must

LuvGlimmerTwins
2010-07-07, 07:53 AM
Thank you, Yoda. Your wish is my command.

Full SA of D1T14 in color
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad48/brisance102302/SA%20and%20FA%20Graphs/D1T14fullSAcolor.png

3-sec SA of D1T14 in color
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad48/brisance102302/SA%20and%20FA%20Graphs/D1T14color3-secSA.png

Great gratitude to you for the offer of help.

Drgiggles1
2010-07-07, 01:26 PM
It had to be a mod @<hidden> DAD to call this lossy :lol4: You're black & white shot is clearly lossless....

LuvGlimmerTwins
2010-07-07, 03:41 PM
It had to be a mod @<hidden> DAD to call this lossy :lol4: You're black & white shot is clearly lossless....

Not at all sure it is relevant to this discussion, but the tracker was not my father's tracker :wave:.

trustthex
2010-07-25, 10:47 PM
Not at all sure it is relevant to this discussion, but the tracker was not my father's tracker :wave:.

dime-a-dozen... also, i'll second not lossy.

LuvGlimmerTwins
2010-07-26, 08:31 AM
Thank you for your expertise and opinions. The assistance is most appreciated :clap::thumbsup

ilove2rock
2010-07-27, 11:36 AM
A...

This is lossy, I did the banning myself! Whether it is from conversion to MP3 or heavily filtered? That is up for discussion...

The tracks I tested have nothing over 16k... I mean nothing... Obviously, you have seen my post with the graphs, you can see the zoom to the top end shows no data over 16k... It is entirely black on the close up.

Sorry! I know its from silvers, but unfortunitely that means nothing these days! :(

...L

paddington
2010-07-27, 11:46 AM
A...

This is lossy, I did the banning myself! Whether it is from conversion to MP3 or heavily filtered? That is up for discussion...

The tracks I tested have nothing over 16k... I mean nothing... Obviously, you have seen my post with the graphs, you can see the zoom to the top end shows no data over 16k... It is entirely black on the close up.

Sorry! I know its from silvers, but unfortunitely that means nothing these days! :(

...L

having nothing over 16k means nothing, either.


still have yet to see a good spectrum analyzer pic for this topic.

Needs to be
1) from Cool Edit or Adobe Audition
2) in color
3) 2-3 span


There are plenty tapes that have no high frequencies due to equipment / age, etc. Lossy data compression tells a different tale and will be obvious if someone will follow the instructions above.

AAR.oner
2010-07-27, 12:23 PM
yeah, i see none of the tell tale blockiness from the pics above...proper SA pics would help, or post a few 20 sec samples from various parts

ilove2rock
2010-07-28, 03:01 AM
Well now that makes perfect sense!!!

It really depends on what the site will allow to seed. Some trackers allow lossy formats, some dont. Some allow Minidisk, some dont! I think that may very well be the case here!

Perhaps that will clear it up! I no longer have to torrent so I cant make any more SA's...

LuvGlimmerTwins
2010-07-28, 08:19 AM
A...

This is lossy, I did the banning myself! Whether it is from conversion to MP3 or heavily filtered? That is up for discussion...

The tracks I tested have nothing over 16k... I mean nothing... Obviously, you have seen my post with the graphs, you can see the zoom to the top end shows no data over 16k... It is entirely black on the close up.

Sorry! I know its from silvers, but unfortunitely that means nothing these days! :(

...L

Ummm....sorry, L; haven't seen your graphs.
However, I respect your views, am glad to see your comments, appreciate the Staff's willingness to help and will comply with Staff requests soon.

LuvGlimmerTwins
2010-07-29, 04:53 AM
Hope these are adequate. Thank you.
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad48/brisance102302/SA%20and%20FA%20Graphs/RS%20Whips%20Smack%20TSP%20digipak/d2t142-secFAcolor.png

AAR.oner
2010-07-29, 09:44 AM
none of those appear lossy to me

Drgiggles1
2010-07-29, 11:54 AM
Here are 2 second snippets of track13 cd1 and track 14 cd2 in cool edit pro in black & white with the FA's...
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww335/DrGiggles1/WhipsCrackTigersSnarlTSPDallasrehearsals1972FLACtrack13CD1.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww335/DrGiggles1/WhipsCrackTigersSnarlTSPDallasrehearsals1972FLACtrack14CD2.jpg

Drgiggles1
2010-07-29, 11:58 AM
From my desktop, not sure why photobucket made them so small

tonebloke
2010-07-30, 02:20 AM
Lossless.

LuvGlimmerTwins
2010-07-30, 08:58 AM
Great gratitude for the input :wave: