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Old 2010-07-04, 10:19 AM
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"lossy" at another place

A file set with the same .ffps was banned as lossy elsewhere. Since the torrent is running here,
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...ad.php?t=83374
I ask for confirmation if it truly is lossless.
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Old 2010-07-05, 01:51 AM
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Re: "lossy" at another place

G'day A. I wouldn't necessarily call them lossy but that second set of pic's has had a lot of "work" done to it. How does it sound ? Is it "strangled" ?
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Old 2010-07-05, 08:48 AM
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Re: "lossy" at another place

Hiya, T!
Thanks for the input. It is studio outs, has a bit of hum, and can be muddy in places, clear in others, and hot in some, but doesn't sound 'strangled' to me ;-)
'Course, it's 70's RS from TSP..

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Re: "lossy" at another place

To be honest, I haven't seen Specs like these before (I'm only learning) and would hazard to guess that something was done in the studio to get that sort of display.
Considering that there is no definitive cut-off within the Specs I would not call for lossy.
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Re: "lossy" at another place

help you, I will

post the spectrum analyzer in color with a 2-3 second span, you must
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Old 2010-07-07, 07:53 AM
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Thank you, Yoda. Your wish is my command.

Full SA of D1T14 in color


3-sec SA of D1T14 in color


Great gratitude to you for the offer of help.
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Re: "lossy" at another place

It had to be a mod @ DAD to call this lossy You're black & white shot is clearly lossless....
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Re: "lossy" at another place

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It had to be a mod @ DAD to call this lossy You're black & white shot is clearly lossless....
Not at all sure it is relevant to this discussion, but the tracker was not my father's tracker .
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Re: "lossy" at another place

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Not at all sure it is relevant to this discussion, but the tracker was not my father's tracker .
dime-a-dozen... also, i'll second not lossy.
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Re: "lossy" at another place

Thank you for your expertise and opinions. The assistance is most appreciated
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Re: "lossy" at another place

A...

This is lossy, I did the banning myself! Whether it is from conversion to MP3 or heavily filtered? That is up for discussion...

The tracks I tested have nothing over 16k... I mean nothing... Obviously, you have seen my post with the graphs, you can see the zoom to the top end shows no data over 16k... It is entirely black on the close up.

Sorry! I know its from silvers, but unfortunitely that means nothing these days!

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Re: "lossy" at another place

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A...

This is lossy, I did the banning myself! Whether it is from conversion to MP3 or heavily filtered? That is up for discussion...

The tracks I tested have nothing over 16k... I mean nothing... Obviously, you have seen my post with the graphs, you can see the zoom to the top end shows no data over 16k... It is entirely black on the close up.

Sorry! I know its from silvers, but unfortunitely that means nothing these days!

...L
having nothing over 16k means nothing, either.


still have yet to see a good spectrum analyzer pic for this topic.

Needs to be
1) from Cool Edit or Adobe Audition
2) in color
3) 2-3 span


There are plenty tapes that have no high frequencies due to equipment / age, etc. Lossy data compression tells a different tale and will be obvious if someone will follow the instructions above.
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Re: "lossy" at another place

yeah, i see none of the tell tale blockiness from the pics above...proper SA pics would help, or post a few 20 sec samples from various parts
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Old 2010-07-28, 03:01 AM
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Re: "lossy" at another place

Well now that makes perfect sense!!!

It really depends on what the site will allow to seed. Some trackers allow lossy formats, some dont. Some allow Minidisk, some dont! I think that may very well be the case here!

Perhaps that will clear it up! I no longer have to torrent so I cant make any more SA's...
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Re: "lossy" at another place

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This is lossy, I did the banning myself! Whether it is from conversion to MP3 or heavily filtered? That is up for discussion...

The tracks I tested have nothing over 16k... I mean nothing... Obviously, you have seen my post with the graphs, you can see the zoom to the top end shows no data over 16k... It is entirely black on the close up.

Sorry! I know its from silvers, but unfortunitely that means nothing these days!

...L
Ummm....sorry, L; haven't seen your graphs.
However, I respect your views, am glad to see your comments, appreciate the Staff's willingness to help and will comply with Staff requests soon.
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