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Old 2010-11-10, 06:40 PM
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Re: Can 'audio watermarks' be banned...?

I'm not a taper nor someone who does remasters. However, I probably speak for the majority of the live music collecting population when I say I download/trade music because I like the music; not because of who taped it or remastered it. There's a big difference between listening to music because I like Yes (and some anonymous internet person did a good job of cleaning it up) and downloading a recording because some anonymous internet person does a great job of cleaning up live recordings that happen to be Yes.

Bottom line; I choose to collect certain recordings because I like their music. I look for the best versions I can find. If that isn't you, it will be someone else. And my life won't change a bit. I'd prefer people keep their names off of recordings they had no hand in making.
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Re: Can 'audio watermarks' be banned...?

am I in the bizarro universe or something?

freezer are you backing toole?

is anybody else backing toole? freezer counts for 10 votes imo but the rest of the world says this practice is ridiculous. even the only guy who ever crashed the den says so
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Old 2010-11-10, 06:42 PM
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I think this incident is something that only Toole would do. That having been said, I'm all for banning this weird voiceover stuff it just seems ridiculous to have a rule in the seeding rules that's only there for Toole.
You know me well enough Jamie, and you know I'll do it also.
Why?
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am I in the bizarro universe or something?

freezer are you backing toole?

is anybody else backing toole? freezer counts for 10 votes imo but the rest of the world says this practice is ridiculous. even the only guy who ever crashed the den says so
Not really, this is nothing but a tempest in a teacup, it's fucking ridicilous that the person who started this thread won't wait a few minutes until someone could have given him the unblemished copy of the show he wants....er, is now demanding immediately.

You don't like TooleMan's work, don't download it.


He stated his case in the description.

TooleMan was upfront about it.

IF he had just threw it out there with no warning that would be different, now wouldn't it, Five?
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Old 2010-11-10, 06:48 PM
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Re: Can 'audio watermarks' be banned...?

because there's only one person on earth who would do this!

by your logic we might as well add a rule that you are not allowed to include any exe file inside your torrents as it makes us suspicious of viruses.


this is not like dime where the conversation is very short. ttd is also a message board where we bash it out and relate with one another.

we have to get toole in here everybody can let him know how they feel about this. maybe he can explain it all to us and at the end we'll all have a group hug and say "freezer was right, he knew all along and we were so blind". you never know until you try.
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....... I'd prefer people keep their names off of recordings they had no hand in making.
Then the Mike Millard "masters" (which ain't really masters) wouldn't circulate...


OR there'd be 200,000 less versions of 'em circulating.
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Old 2010-11-10, 06:51 PM
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okay I'm guerilla and you're jesse

we're trying to get toole in here to help us straighten this out.

what a mess you've made! help!
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okay I'm guerilla and you're jesse

we're trying to get toole in here to help us straighten this out.

what a mess you've made! help!
Heenan here.
















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because there's only one person on earth who would do this!

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Not any more, Jamie.

Every uncirculating master of mine will now come with freshly added watermarks, OK?

Suck 'em down or don't and see if I care.
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Old 2010-11-10, 06:55 PM
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Re: Can 'audio watermarks' be banned...?

I'm not 'demanding' anything.

I asked - if anyone had a clean copy, could they upload it here. Do you read that as a 'demand'?

Why is it 'effing ridiculous' that I started this thread to discuss it before waiting to see if anyone had a clean copy? How long should I have waited? Days? Weeks? Months?

Catch 22. I couldn't decide whether or not I liked or disliked his work, his watermark, until I'd downloaded it and listened to it.

I couldn't tell what it sounded like from his description in the text file.
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Old 2010-11-10, 06:56 PM
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Not any more, Jamie.

Every uncirculating master of mine will now come with freshly added watermarks, OK?

Suck 'em down or don't and see if I care.
well okay but also can you add a bonus track at the end telling your memories of the show? like a dvd bonus feature, yeah, I can live with this.

anybody else like this idea?
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Old 2010-11-10, 06:57 PM
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I'm not 'demanding' anything.

I asked - if anyone had a clean copy, could they upload it here. Do you read that as a 'demand'?

Why is it 'effing ridiculous' that I started this thread to discuss it before waiting to see if anyone had a clean copy? How long should I have waited? Days? Weeks? Months?

Catch 22. I couldn't decide whether or not I liked or disliked his work, his watermark, until I'd downloaded it and listened to it.

I couldn't tell what it sounded like from his description in the text file.
Then delete it AFTER you listened to it and wait til you get what you want.






And be sure to get all your money back from TooleMan, OK?
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Old 2010-11-10, 07:00 PM
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because there's only one person on earth who would do this!

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Not any more, Jamie.

Every uncirculating master of mine will now come with freshly added watermarks, OK?

Suck 'em down or don't and see if I care.
And that's kinda my point too...post 'em or don't. I really don't care. If I d/l a recording that has annoying things added to it, I'll delete it and I'll eventually stop d/l'ing your posts anyway. Its really no biggie. But to intentionally add your name over music is a bit ridiculous, imo. Someone remasters a show and gets mad because someone takes it and makes more changes. Ever think maybe the artists are annoyed people want to take credit for their work?

Kinda hypocritical isn't it? Someone takes someone else's work, tinkers with it, and gets mad because someone else takes their work and tinkers some more?

Whatever.
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well okay but also can you add a bonus track at the end telling your memories of the show? like a dvd bonus feature, yeah, I can live with this.

anybody else like this idea?

I promise you the entitlement crew ain't gonna like my watermarks.

I have some choice words about the greedmongers to add.
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Old 2010-11-10, 07:01 PM
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Re: Can 'audio watermarks' be banned...?

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I asked - if anyone had a clean copy, could they upload it here. Do you read that as a 'demand'?
Yes, he does.
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Old 2010-11-10, 07:03 PM
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Re: Can 'audio watermarks' be banned...?

GRC do you have a dime account? somebody go grab it and upload it here so I don't have to.
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