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Old 2013-07-27, 08:00 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

shit this thread is as weak as a political thread there.

show us your tits!
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Old 2013-07-27, 08:07 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

They have known for years that there are much more affordable hosts. The PMs asking for money, or else they will shut down the site, are usually sent out around the 20th of each month. Then they send out a "We really mean it!" notice a few days before the threatened shutdown. Somehow, it works, because they usually make up a two or three hundred dollar deficit in the final 48 hours. Either that, or Jameskg is onto something.
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Old 2013-07-28, 12:14 AM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

$600 a month for server costs? Even when we had two servers and an outside backup site, we were running on less than $400 a month. When things got tough, I cut the backup (after having our host verify the status of the disks on the other server for me to do the backup on instead). We are now running on a more powerful server than before (with RAID 10 and 8 GB RAM) and paying less than for those two servers. Are they operating in the US? If so, I really think they should contact our host, QuickPacket, and ask about hosting there. We've been with QuickPacket since we started and they have always been good to us.
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Old 2013-07-28, 01:25 AM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

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$600 a month for server costs? Even when we had two servers and an outside backup site, we were running on less than $400 a month. When things got tough, I cut the backup (after having our host verify the status of the disks on the other server for me to do the backup on instead). We are now running on a more powerful server than before (with RAID 10 and 8 GB RAM) and paying less than for those two servers. Are they operating in the US? If so, I really think they should contact our host, QuickPacket, and ask about hosting there. We've been with QuickPacket since we started and they have always been good to us.
How many worker-hours would be involved in changing hosts? Unlike here, HC seems to be a one man operation as far as code monkey stuff, I wonder if that isn't part of the reason they have not taken some of these cost savings step.

HC's forums seem to be hosted separately, so that's been up all week. That may explain how their "money begging notice" has been hosted.
http://thehcforum.com/

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Old 2013-07-28, 10:38 AM
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How many worker-hours would be involved in changing hosts? Unlike here, HC seems to be a one man operation as far as code monkey stuff, I wonder if that isn't part of the reason they have not taken some of these cost savings step.
On our last server move, our host installed PHP, MySQL, apache for us and then moved over our files/databases all at no cost to us. I was just around to fix some server paths in the software since they had changed. Once I changed those, I verified the site worked, and then turned it back on. Not much effort on my part at all. On other server moves, I have hired a kid in England to do the move for us which includes installing PHP, MySQL, apache, and moving over all our files/databases. He usually takes two hours, so $200 dollars. I play with the coding on our site, but I don't like doing server moves so I always hire someone to make sure it gets done right.
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Old 2013-07-28, 08:47 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

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On our last server move, our host installed PHP, MySQL, apache for us and then moved over our files/databases all at no cost to us. I was just around to fix some server paths in the software since they had changed. Once I changed those, I verified the site worked, and then turned it back on. Not much effort on my part at all. On other server moves, I have hired a kid in England to do the move for us which includes installing PHP, MySQL, apache, and moving over all our files/databases. He usually takes two hours, so $200 dollars. I play with the coding on our site, but I don't like doing server moves so I always hire someone to make sure it gets done right.
Thanks, then that would not seem to be much of an impedament for moving servers.
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Old 2013-07-28, 08:54 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

The private tracker appears to be down again as well.
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Old 2013-07-28, 11:01 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

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They have known for years that there are much more affordable hosts. The PMs asking for money, or else they will shut down the site, are usually sent out around the 20th of each month. Then they send out a "We really mean it!" notice a few days before the threatened shutdown. Somehow, it works, because they usually make up a two or three hundred dollar deficit in the final 48 hours. Either that, or Jameskg is onto something.
shareef's crack dealer shows up on the 19th giving him 3 days to pay - hence the urgent email/ pms on the 20th
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Old 2013-07-28, 11:24 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

perhaps they could sell t-shirts
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Old 2013-08-02, 02:26 PM
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Re: Hungercity?

Sooooooo...hungercity is done? There was a note that it would be up again by yesterday, but now ALL of the forums, etc. are offline. Anyone have any info? I know there were several people who sent them $$ in the last week to get it back up and running.
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Old 2013-08-02, 02:51 PM
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Re: Hungercity?

Gookie spookie, guess it got spank punished for blowing thee wistle, right?
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Old 2013-08-02, 03:00 PM
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Sooooooo...hungercity is done? There was a note that it would be up again by yesterday, but now ALL of the forums, etc. are offline. Anyone have any info? I know there were several people who sent them $$ in the last week to get it back up and running.
Note is till there. May be thursday turned into friday turned into ... etc.
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Old 2013-08-02, 06:23 PM
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Old 2013-08-02, 11:41 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

didn't make it back up...
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Old 2013-08-03, 07:01 AM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

First post here. Big fan of TTD but also a big fan of HC. Lots of stuff there you don't find anywhere else, including a ton of great Beatles A&V (banned elsewhere).

I have donated to HC in the past but refuse to stain myself ever again with PP so I have to do it through a third party who doesn't have any brains or self-respect and thinks PP is the salvation of all humanity. Didn't donate during this crisis yet because I can't reach Stain Man ATM but I plan to donate again ASAP. I wish BT operators could work with Google Wallet, Amazon Payments, BitCoin, etc. ... anything but PP! I'd mail cash if there was a way to get it to you.

I have had a number of dealings with ShaReeF and he has been the epitome of professionalism, courtesy, and cooperation. Rather than push for a donation in our PMs, he told me not to sweat it. Given those encounters, I find it very hard to believe that there's anything improper taking place. No argument from me that better communication from him would help the public perception, but as someone who used to be on call to put radio stations back on the air after transmitter failures (some catastrophic), I know what a PITA it is when people keep asking "are we almost there yet?". It will be done just as soon as it can be done and not a second sooner. I'm willing to cut him a lot of slack because he's done far more for the HC community than most of us have ever done for him and I am grateful to him and everyone else who runs a BT tracker (Lynne - thanks much for the great job (ZERO OUTAGES) you do with TTD!).

I have no inside info about WTF may be going on at HC but my sense is that he's doing what he can to make it work. There have been some changes in page availability over the past couple of days that lead me to belive something is afoot. If it never resurfaces for any reason we'll all be worse off, so I hope that's not the case. But I needed to put in a good word for ShaReeF as a good guy who's done good work in the past and wish him well in this bad situation.

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