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Old 2008-02-05, 03:09 AM
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Vinyl records vs. Cds.

I went crazy on ebay and bought a ton of vinyl records. About 1500 or so, I know I must be crazy because I already have almost all the music on cd already. I would like to know if any of you like the sound of vinyl records more than cd digital sound? To me cd digital sound is clearer but not as warm or full. Maybe that is just wishful thinking on my part because i have all these classic rock and jazz records on vinyl. There are still other crazy people like me on ebay because I look from time to time and people still bid on vinyl records. What do you think? Also I converted some vinyl recordings to cd and they sound a little different then the factory released cd's. The converted vinyl to cd sound ok to me but I guess that defeats the purpose of the vinyl record right? Please give me your opinions? Should i sell the records while I still can or will people still want them in the future? I am talking about vinyl records in very good plus cond to near mint ,not all beat up ones.
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Old 2008-02-05, 05:25 AM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

yes, i prefer vinyl to cd any day of the week...hell, i typically prefer my own LP>CD transfers as opposed to factory pressed CDs of the same album as well

its not wishful thinking, analogue recordings with no digital stage have a MUCH warmer,fuller sound than digital...if you look at a sine wave recorded analogue [smooth wave shape], as opposed to the same sine recorded digitally [stairsteps], you'll understand why -- it all comes down to the 1's and 0's of digital

vinyl isn't going anywhere, there will always be audiophiles, collectors, DJs, etc who will want vinyl...that said, if yer interested in selling any of yer records, let me know...i'm always in the market for a few more records to spin
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Old 2008-02-05, 05:42 AM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

Get a tube or an Accuphase amplifier to listen to CDs ;-)
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Old 2008-02-05, 11:35 AM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

it's all in the turntable!!
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Old 2008-02-05, 12:50 PM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

some stuff sounds much better on LP than anything else but the old old old recordings of jimmie rodgers or charley patton and the like are only listenable (imho) since the sonic solution-type stuff happened. I like access to all media formats.
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Old 2008-02-05, 01:46 PM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

mehh. warm with pops and crackles. Go digital. sell the records.
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Old 2008-02-05, 01:54 PM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

relax with wax!

Someday digital may approach or surpass analog vinyl in sound quality because there is a limit to what we can hear in terms of accuracy of the waveforms. That said, CDs aren't close to that limit.

Plus, if you get a 24 bit soundcard or external AD converter, you can transfer those records and they will sound BETTER than their 16 bit CD release. The vinyl will eventually wear out, but if you burn new data discs every 10 years or so, you can keep the digital forever.

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Old 2008-02-05, 03:33 PM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

I prefer cassettes.
But if I had to choose from those two I would choose vinyl.
I will always hate CDs because of their prices.
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Old 2008-02-05, 03:48 PM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

Most cassettes sold in stores in the last 15 or so years as official albums are probably digitally sourced.

Cassettes are great for dubbing vinyl for the car or walkman. Unless you have something like this:

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Old 2008-02-05, 03:50 PM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

16 2/3 rpm records!
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Old 2008-02-05, 03:54 PM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

Quote:
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16 2/3 rpm records!
that is so retro cool. terrible idea..but very cool.
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Old 2008-02-05, 06:54 PM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

Vinyls and CD:s often sound different but 44,1 kHz/16 bits is perfectly adequate for home reproduction of recordings. There are no real benefits of increasing the bandwidth and the dynamic range and this is confirmed by double-blind listening tests.
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Old 2008-02-06, 03:34 AM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

Not true. Have you ever heard any DVD-Audio discs or 24 bit recordings? They sound quite a bit better than 16 bit CDs. When the bit depth is increased, the resolution is increased, and this is easily heard. Increasing the sample rate is less perceptible in PCM.
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Old 2008-02-06, 10:52 AM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

The idea that increased resolution and sampling rate over standard CD-quality gives an audible difference is not supported by double-blind listening tests (except at very elevated levels). The most recent and comprehensive study in this subject was published this September in Journal of the Audio Engineering Society (1). When DVD-A discs (or vinyls) sound better than CD:s it's most likely because the sound engineers did a better job.

(1) E. B Mayer and D. R. Moran, "Audibility of a CD-Standard A/D/A Loop Inserted to High-Resolution Audio Playback", J. Audio Eng. Soc., Vol. 55, No. 9 (September 2007)
(It's not available on the internet for free but i could probably email it if anyone is interested)
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Old 2008-02-06, 01:47 PM
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Re: Vinyl records vs. Cds.

Hey - get one of these and your vinyl will never wear out - it even has a declicker! However, you will need deep pockets for this TT - base price is $10,000.

ELP Laser Turntable

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