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View Poll Results: Should we ban mindless leechers?
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 1.0 27 4.04%
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 0.75 29 4.34%
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 0.50 131 19.61%
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 0.25 157 23.50%
No, not under any circumstances. Let karma take over! 201 30.09%
Give them a warning and allow them to make up for their wrongdoing by ul'ing constantly. 176 26.35%
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Old 2009-06-13, 09:26 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

Should we ban thoughtless thread makers from making thoughtless threads?
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Old 2009-06-14, 01:48 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

Look proper torrent ettiquette is what ever you d/l you have to upload if you can stay longer fine. Remember companies like Comcast only give you 250gb per month.....
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Old 2009-06-15, 10:42 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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Look proper torrent ettiquette is what ever you d/l you have to upload if you can stay longer fine. Remember companies like Comcast only give you 250gb per month.....
thats not necessarily true, I had high speed broadband with comcast for years and was never capped and I downloaded tons of stuff every month but was only able to give out a little when compared to what I took in.

ratios are a bit misleading due to the fact that you can download a show with many seeders in a few minutes but try uploading the same amount can take weeks because you have slow upload speeds
now does that make you a bad person because you cannot afford a connection that has a high upload rate?

since I got fios my download speeds are around 2MB/s and upload speeds are upwards from 6/700kb/s which makes maintaining a rat easy as I can give out 50 or 60 gigs in a few hours. try that with an upload speed of 30kb/s and see how far you get.

the only people who should be banned are those with fast upload speeds who do not maintain a healthy rat, but how do you police that? how do you prove a person has a fast connection
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Old 2009-06-18, 11:28 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

I know there's no easy solution to this problem, but I'm getting a little tired of seeding to low-life's who bail right after they complete a download. What I would like to see is a user's ratio appear everywhere their name does, not just in a post or on their profile page. That way, if I see a 0.17 user leeching a torrent I have, I won't even bother seeding it. Now that the site logs every visitor to your profile I don't want to have to check every time and give someone the satisfaction. Perhaps it's not the charitable thing to do, but neither is sucking up bandwidth and good intentions with no effort to return the favor.

Maybe a lot of people get to feeling this way at one point or another, and I'm there now. I worked for my ratio, and I don't mind sharing with people who are willing to do the same, but I've about had it with 'thoughtless leechers'. If you're not going to ban them, I'd at least like to deprive them of my contribution.

Just a thought, for what it's worth.
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Old 2009-06-19, 09:33 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

The last few audio torrents I completed, I was quite happy to leave them open for whatever it took, but shortly after completion, I found there were no peers to connect to..... so just closed them down.

Happy to give, but if no-one's there to take, what can I do?
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Old 2009-06-22, 11:21 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

Share ratio shouldn't mean anything. The share ratio is an internet pyramid scheme. In order for the leechers to maintain the status quo "share ratio", there must be enough new leechers to support the old ones. I don't think that is possible anymore
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Old 2009-06-22, 03:27 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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Share ratio shouldn't mean anything. The share ratio is an internet pyramid scheme. In order for the leechers to maintain the status quo "share ratio", there must be enough new leechers to support the old ones. I don't think that is possible anymore
people with a decent ratio never post comments like this




Pyramid scheme huh? suppose you start downloading a torrent when it is first posted like several others, why should your ratio be any different from theirs (assuming your ISP doesn't throttle your bandwith) unless you cut and run off to another download right away - there should be many folks downloading it so you can seed it back. If you are trying to download too many shows at the same time your downloads will be slow, maybe then you cannot share back enough before most of the people downloading it already grabbed it.

Maybe you are trying to download too much at once?
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Old 2009-06-22, 08:12 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

When I seed a torrent, one person in aggregate will have a zero ratio on that torrent. Once I go past "1" more than one person will have less than a 1:1 ratio. By my average ratio, I deprive 6+ people of any ratio at all, every time I seed. If I wanted more people to get to 1:1, I would superseed and then turn off my client as soon as I've uploaded the show.

But I don't.

It's just math.
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Old 2009-06-23, 12:01 PM
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....By my average ratio, I deprive 6+ people of any ratio at all, every time I seed. .....
Greedy ratio whore.
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Old 2009-06-23, 11:16 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

I'm gonna start a cut-and-run policy to help the leechers improve their ratio.
Not even gonna upload while I'm downloading.
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Old 2009-06-27, 08:09 PM
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Question Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

I try to leave things up as much as possible, but my ratios are low due to lack of interest (amazingly, for Bob Marley stuff). The real problem is, though that Comcast makes it difficult to share, even though I'm paying top dollar for the high speed 'service'.
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Old 2009-06-27, 10:34 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

Thought you had to have a .25 to be able to download. Isn't that good enough? Sounds to me like more web nit-picking. Worry about your own ratio. Let the mods worry about the rest.
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Old 2009-07-24, 11:43 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

bad ratio is the new good ratio
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Old 2009-07-28, 10:07 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

I am not a taper. When I download something I believe will be of value I appreciate the gift someone has given. I try to remember to thank them for their efforts. I do not see enough of that taking place. I am not perfect mind you. Second I believe in leaving the torrent open for several days and checking to see if there is someone who is trying to upload before closing it out. Seems like a reasonable approach to me. I do not download what I perceive by the number of hits are the top popular shows but have still been able to maintain a 1.7 ratio by this method Others could try the same approach
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Old 2009-07-28, 10:15 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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I am not a taper. When I download something I believe will be of value I appreciate the gift someone has given. I try to remember to thank them for their efforts. I do not see enough of that taking place. I am not perfect mind you. Second I believe in leaving the torrent open for several days and checking to see if there is someone who is trying to upload before closing it out. Seems like a reasonable approach to me. I do not download what I perceive by the number of hits are the top popular shows but have still been able to maintain a 1.7 ratio by this method Others could try the same approach
I still think we should ban thoughtless seeders. Hey Don!
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