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Old 2006-01-25, 09:28 PM
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Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

Hi, I am transferring some minidiscs for someone else. They recorded 4 shows on 2 MDs in LP2 mode...yuck I know.

A friend of mine has a deck that reads LP2 so he transfered the shows for me onto 4 separate CDRs (1 huge track). Two of these discs EAC secure and two do not. What's the 2nd best option? Here's one of the errored logs:

EAC extraction logfile from 25. January 2006, 18:10 for CD
Unknown Artist / Unknown Title

Used drive : LITE-ON LTR-16102B Adapter: 1 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure with C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Combined read/write offset correction : 0
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No

Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo

Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : Yes
Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000


Track 1
Filename C:\Documents and Settings\john\Desktop\Track01.wav

Suspicious position 0:00:00

Copy aborted

There were errors


End of status report
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Old 2006-01-26, 08:25 AM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

not positive an answer...but i'ma move this to technobabble where you'll probly get more help
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Old 2006-01-26, 09:22 AM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

Ask him to burn the discs again - are you sure they are not CD-RW because that has caused me problems before. Had to leave EAC running overnight to decode them.
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Old 2006-01-26, 10:17 AM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

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Originally Posted by AAR.oner
not positive an answer...but i'ma move this to technobabble where you'll probly get more help
no problem, thank you. should have been thinking of that.

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Ask him to burn the discs again - are you sure they are not CD-RW because that has caused me problems before. Had to leave EAC running overnight to decode them.
i'll look into that, thanks.
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Old 2006-01-26, 10:53 AM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

Just for grins, can you rip them in burst mode??
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Old 2006-01-26, 11:54 AM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

yeah I was considering giving that a try and worst case senario listing that in the .txt or maybe trying something else in the FAQ under the Audio Extraction section. pros/cons of iTunes with the error correction on?

weird stuff, I was thinking maybe the 2 shows that won't EAC are from the same MD but that's not the case:

Disc One:
Show A - EAC secure fine
Show B - errors out

Disc Two:
Show C - EAC secure fine
Show D - errors out

so it appears there's issues with the 2nd show on each disc. I don't have model numbers or anything but I was going to talk to my friend tonight but here's a rough lineage:

MD Deck able to read LP2 > standalone burner? > fugi audio-CDRs.

thanks for the feedback, it's appreciated.
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Old 2006-01-26, 12:08 PM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

I've had success with Paranoid mode on some difficult discs. You just have to be careful when using it because it can potentially damage your drive. while its reading if you don't see any progress for a little while and hear the exact same grinding sound eminating from yer drive hit "abort".

burst mode might work, but you will have to check in a wav editor for errors (because with this disc there will certainly be some).

also try again in secure mode with C2 disabled

hope this helps
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Old 2006-01-26, 01:38 PM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

paranoid mode with caution and secure mode with C2 disabled, check.

thanks Five!
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Old 2006-01-27, 08:24 AM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

Burst mode is actually fine (and error-free) in many cases, just be sure to use test & copy and make sure that crcs match. It's actually the first thing I'd try after running into trouble with secure mode, because it's the fastest way and puts the least strain on your drive.

If you have trouble getting matching crcs when "burst-ripping" at full speed, try EAC's speed reduction to 4x or even 2x.
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Old 2006-01-29, 01:09 PM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

I appreciate everyone's input on this, I plan on getting back to work on those two problem discs today.
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Old 2006-01-29, 04:54 PM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

Peak level 100.0 %
Test CRC 40B41EC0
Copy CRC 113CC76E
Copy OK

No errors occured

bummer...I'm looking through all of the options to find EAC's speed reduction but cannot find it. would any be able to tell me where it's located?

off to google I go...
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Old 2006-01-29, 05:00 PM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

I disabled the C2 feature and 'Accurate Stream' was automatically check marked. It's appears to want to rip now so I will try that. Looks like ~1hr for this disc but that's worth it.
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Old 2006-01-29, 05:08 PM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

UGH...spoke to soon. hit cancel to come post that it was ripping with C2 off then went back to start it up again and now it is coming up with synch errors.

should have let it be!
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Old 2006-01-29, 05:36 PM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

stuck in the other of the 2 problem discs and that EACed secure fine with C2 off but it still won't rip the other one. it's like EAC knows the disc now and is saying "oops I already gave you a chance to rip this one with C2 off."
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Old 2006-01-29, 05:54 PM
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Re: Discs won't EAC secure, 2nd best option?

Cleared the CRCs out of the database and it looked like it was smooth sailing...made it through the Test fine but then ran into a Suspicious position during the Copy and had to abort.

Looks like I'll need to locate EAC's speed reduction feature and try burst mode again.

Sorry for the multiple posts...hopefully someone out there learns something from this thread though.
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