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Old 2013-10-22, 01:24 PM
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Pulled Torrents - Unfair

My Nirvana torrent was pulled from circulation because some asshole complained and complained and complained until he got his way.

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...d.php?t=105378

Yet these INFERIOR versions of the same tapes remain on the tracker, and are downloaded every day.

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...ad.php?t=74703
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...ad.php?t=65704
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...ad.php?t=74511
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...ad.php?t=50119

There are lots of torrents on TTD that not only contain official material, but material taken STRAIGHT from official releases. Beatles, Dylan, you name it. Yet nothing is done about these at all.

Do we just pull things willy-nilly around here when people complain?

Moderators aren't responding so I figured I would air my dirty laundry in public, with the hope that someone could explain this nonsense to me.
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Old 2013-10-22, 01:46 PM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

What part of this did you not understand exactly?
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The Paramount show from 10/31/91 has been released, in full, with video.

You may buy it here:
http://www.amazon.com/Nirvana-Live-a.../dp/B005EXA8XC


We do not allow official material on the tracker at TTD so I am pulling this.

If you'd like to upload without the officially released material, please do.
...the 2 links you provided to the OR'd show that caused your torrent to be pulled have been pulled. The other 2 are not official releases and allowed. If you got a legitimate link that shows they have been sold, they'll be pulled as well. In the end, it's a torrent on a website, not the f'n cure for cancer, get over it.
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Old 2013-10-22, 01:52 PM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

The other two shows are no different from the Paramount show. PARTS have been officially released. These are the uncut shows. The official release of the full Paramount show is a completely different mix. Aren't different mixes of official releases allowed? Based on the way this tracker runs, it shouldn't have been pulled.

This show http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...ad.php?t=67299 was officially released. But apparently it's allowed because it's a different mix. How is the Nirvana Pararmount show any different?

Here's another show that was officially released, but is allowed because it's a different mix http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...d.php?t=106979, again, no different from the Nirvana Paramount show.

Unless there is something YOU don't understand?

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Old 2013-10-22, 03:26 PM
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Old 2013-10-22, 03:34 PM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

You got any video of Cobain shooting himself? if indeed he did...
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Old 2013-10-22, 04:34 PM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

yes, but not with acceptable lineage, can't up that here sorry
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Old 2013-10-22, 07:06 PM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

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You got any video of Cobain shooting himself?
I'd love to see that...tis a shame there aren't more over rated douchebags, such as Steve Wilson, doing the world a favor by following his excellent example.

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PARTS have been officially released.
Unlike some sites, we've never pulled shows for a handful of songs being OR'd.

The Band, probably shouldn't have been allowed, it's now inactive

The Grateful Dead does not care about anything torrent related except rips of the actual OR's.

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Unless there is something YOU don't understand?
Keep linking examples and reporting if YOU want, it's not going to change the out come.
If YOU don't like the reply, feel free to start YOUr own tracker and allow whatever YOU want.

I repeat....In the end, it's a torrent on a website, not the f'n cure for cancer, get over it.
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Old 2013-10-22, 09:29 PM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

Okay, I'll do that, smart ass. Thanks.
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Old 2013-10-22, 10:09 PM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

you got Schmoe'd



We moderate on a case-by-case basis, using the FAQ as guide.

We really do try to adhere as closely as possible. I spent a good bit of time listening to your torrent and researching exactly what it was, all while you bashed me and talked shit about other torrents. I didn't just pull it because one guy complained.

I (and most mods) prefer to focus on one torrent at a time. Yours had multiple reports, so I looked into it as thoroughly as I could. You brought up others.. we looked into them and made calls on those, too. Schmoe has already detailed that for you.


I understand you are not happy with the outcome but, since the only way you'd be happy is for your torrent to continue, that's just how it is.


The reason for the pull is detailed in succinct fashion, in the thread (and now this one). Your concerns about other torrents, which have no bearing on this one, were also addressed, as thoroughly as possible.


Thank you for using TTD.
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Old 2013-10-22, 10:13 PM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

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You got any video of Cobain shooting himself? if indeed he did...
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yes, but not with acceptable lineage, can't up that here sorry

I'm pretty sure we'd grant a pass, for this. Although, if it existed, TV would have posted it by now
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Old 2013-10-22, 11:39 PM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

Is this in anyway related to why, despite the stats showing hundreds or thousands of threads in the "Pulled Video Torrents" and "Pulled Audio Torrents" sub forums respectively, only the two most recent "pulls" visible?
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Old 2013-10-22, 11:43 PM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

from the annoucement post, in that forum, from 2004:

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Pulled torrents will stay here, inactive, for a week. Users and seeders can view them, and make corrections to their seed to try again, or read why we have not accepted the seed for that period of time. After this, they will be purged from our database.

there's simply no reason to catalog unused threads for very long.
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Old 2013-10-22, 11:51 PM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

Gotcha, thanks. Never really looked much in those threads, just thought I'd check out the hoopla. I'll have to be quicker next time.
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Old 2013-10-24, 11:48 AM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

The Pulled Audio/Video forums are set to only show threads/posts from the last month. You can see more by changing the Display Options on the bottom of the page.
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Old 2013-10-24, 12:49 PM
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Re: Pulled Torrents - Unfair

Is this a very recent change? It would seem to me helpful to retain this database, at least for staff, to aid when the next guy tries to up the same unacceptable show.

Sorry if this isn't the right forum for that question.
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