Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

[vavoom]

He's sooo busy that he only has time to D/L from all these sites...

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Originally Posted by schmoe75

Again, if this place is so bad, why do you continue to log in here? If you really want us to delete your account, pm Lynne and its done. There's no point in us just banning you since you prove on a daily basis you must log in here, you'll just create a new account.

...And you wonder why people pm'd you about your transfer method and your tapes

[mrbobc]

this is a tough one to answer. i only recently was introduced to this site and as a result i downloaded about 5 older torrents and after completing, my ratio was 0.21. i seeded them for 4-5 days after, i still am, but because noone was dowlloading them my ratio was stuck at around 0.21. if it wasnt for 2 newer torrent becoming available i would take absolutely ages to get my ratio up to a respectable level.

only because i have seeded 1 of these new torrents to a ratio of nearly 4 have i bin able to get my ratio up, otherwise i'd be fooked!

if there was a ban imposed would i have ever got the chance to make it right?

i'm like most people and would like to see everyone seed at least up to a 1.0 ratio but sometimes its not possible. theres about another 5-10 torrents i would love to d/load in here but i know my ratio is gonna plummet from doing so as they are older torrents too, so ive held off.

[rspencer]

Originally Posted by mrbobc

if there was a ban imposed would i have ever got the chance to make it right?

While we don't do so, most sites that ban based on ratio only ban you from further downloading. You are still able to upload torrents you already have downloaded & you are able to upload new torrents.

[joycelynn]

As I am new to this site and do NOT have bad intentions I would love to have Pearl Jam video for my collection. If someone would be kind enough to explain how this works so there is no misunderstandings I would love to share Pearl Jam I am new to torrent files but am eager to learn the rules and how to's.

[U2Lynne]

Originally Posted by joycelynn

As I am new to this site and do NOT have bad intentions I would love to have Pearl Jam video for my collection. If someone would be kind enough to explain how this works so there is no misunderstandings I would love to share Pearl Jam I am new to torrent files but am eager to learn the rules and how to's.

You might want to start here - BitTorrent Help

[ep620]

Originally Posted by joycelynn

As I am new to this site and do NOT have bad intentions I would love to have Pearl Jam video for my collection. If someone would be kind enough to explain how this works so there is no misunderstandings I would love to share Pearl Jam I am new to torrent files but am eager to learn the rules and how to's.

After the help section be sure to stop in the lounge and start a "Hello.. I'm new here" thread.

[lordsmurf]

I was in another thread, and read this:

Originally Posted by bullpinjohn

If your ratio sucked, I wouldn't do it.

I can understand the fundamental reasons for the ratio, as it makes you part of the community instead of just a leech. But sometimes having a high ratio doesn't mean anything other than "I like (and download) the same things everybody else does".

I don't download many things, but when I do, it's often something unique or unusual -- and apparently unpopular. For example: silent films, uncommon Linux ISOs, custom artwork. There have been times that I've left something up for more than a month to seed, and not one person downloaded from it! Also throw in the fact that my ISP upload speed sucks, so even when somebody wants something, it isn't very fast.

So sometimes a low ratio isn't for a lack of trying!

Was just wondering what the prevailing thought is around here.

[direwolf-pgh]

the first time I can recall ratio enforcement was at the early FTP trading sites.
with FTP upstream bandwidth being a fixed amount at the server level -- admin/owners felt they were 'being used'.
the early FTP ratio restrictions were something like 1 upload for every 10 downloads.
The idea was to force each user 'to share back' into the trading pool (pot luck results for sure).
then again, people who couldnt share back could not download which left more FTP bandwidth for others + 'better seeders'.
those who donated had restrictions removed/privileges --some things never change.

today the whole badge of honor / scumbag leech ratio thing is more an online social phenomenon than a core functional component.

2¢

[AAR.oner]

people with shitty ratios should be beaten...repeatedly









nah, but i certainly ain't gonna re-open a torrent for someone who's gotta a really shitty ratio...and excessive leechers i just block in my bt client

it doesn't hurt to keep a torrent running, so why the need to close it within a day or ______ ...& slow ISP u/l speeds is typically a fake excuse imo -- when you ask what their u/ cap is they won't say...hell, mine's limited to ~40k/s which most would say is really bad given todays bandwidth averages...& i have no problem u/ling my fair share

[Kalhoun]

You can use the "ipfilter" feature in uPromise to ban folks. I look at it from a different point of view. Leechers often help distribute torrents. They share the load (except those with no upload speed).

I think it would be beneficial to have a function within this site where a user could specify if a leecher below a certain number can DL their torrent file. That would put those who hate disproportionate leechers in the driver's seat over who they will or will not allow to DL their file.

I'm not for a global site policy. Some seeders just don't care, they just want to share the muse.

[ballsdeep]

I apologize for my ratio, in advance.

THAT said, when I get a cpu, watch-the-FUCK-out.


ESPECIALLY in the winter.


the Alaskan vault has some tasty treats!

[mdshrk1]

I still think we should ban thoughtless seeders.

[pissah]

well my ratio ain't so good - just a few DVD things blew it down - but still

Many ISPs throttle upload speeds to prevent you running a server - it might be that some people can download a torrent in an hour but would need to seed for a LOT longer - if there are enough other leechers - to get to 1-1 just because of their ISP. Comcast is notorious for that.

not much you can do about it if you can't just get another ISP - some areas you have only one choice.

Look at leechers as the people helping YOU keep YOUR ratio up and quit worrying about "thoughtless" or whatever.

thanks to mdshrk1 for being a very generous sharer

[AAR.oner]

Originally Posted by pissah

not much you can do about it if you can't just get another ISP - some areas you have only one choice.

you can leave the torrent open for long enough to u/l a decent amount back...there are torrent sites where i've had to leave a torrent running for 3 mnths in order to u/l back, others can do the same


and there are other ways to make up for not u/ling -- offer the show as a vine or B&P for those who can't torrent...many ways to give back, IF YOU WANT TO

[Thulani]

You can also make a good ratio by downloading shows from blogs that offer bootlegs on rapidshare, megaupload, hotfile, etc. then put them on share on the tracker.