What's with Hungercity again?

[CAF]

Originally Posted by rocketsocket

First post here. Big fan of TTD but also a big fan of HC. Lots of stuff there you don't find anywhere else, including a ton of great Beatles A&V (banned elsewhere).

I have donated to HC in the past but refuse to stain myself ever again with PP so I have to do it through a third party who doesn't have any brains or self-respect and thinks PP is the salvation of all humanity. Didn't donate during this crisis yet because I can't reach Stain Man ATM but I plan to donate again ASAP. I wish BT operators could work with Google Wallet, Amazon Payments, BitCoin, etc. ... anything but PP! I'd mail cash if there was a way to get it to you.

I have had a number of dealings with ShaReeF and he has been the epitome of professionalism, courtesy, and cooperation. Rather than push for a donation in our PMs, he told me not to sweat it. Given those encounters, I find it very hard to believe that there's anything improper taking place. No argument from me that better communication from him would help the public perception, but as someone who used to be on call to put radio stations back on the air after transmitter failures (some catastrophic), I know what a PITA it is when people keep asking "are we almost there yet?". It will be done just as soon as it can be done and not a second sooner. I'm willing to cut him a lot of slack because he's done far more for the HC community than most of us have ever done for him and I am grateful to him and everyone else who runs a BT tracker (Lynne - thanks much for the great job (ZERO OUTAGES) you do with TTD!).

I have no inside info about WTF may be going on at HC but my sense is that he's doing what he can to make it work. There have been some changes in page availability over the past couple of days that lead me to belive something is afoot. If it never resurfaces for any reason we'll all be worse off, so I hope that's not the case. But I needed to put in a good word for ShaReeF as a good guy who's done good work in the past and wish him well in this bad situation.

Back to the shadows for me.

All great points. I hope they re-surface soon.

The "changes in page availability" were due to an outage at HostGator's data center in Provo, Utah. (The outage shut down my website and email, too, which is the only reason I know or would have known this.) I ought to find a new hobby horse, but I'm compelled to mention a few things about HostGator (which hosts HungerCity). A colleague of mine, whom I shall call HD (for those are her initials), also uses HG. When the bank issued HD a new card, she forgot to update her HG account, and, when HG went to automatically withdraw funds from her account, HG could not withdraw the funds that they were owed. HG shut HD down. During this shutdown, her email did not work, and she did not have the capacity to post a message on her website explaining why it was down. HD did not have to pay a reconnection fee, and, once she corrected her billing information and pointed out the correction to HG, her site was back up all but instantly (and, as an aside that is entirely unrelated to HD (but not to HC), HG, to the best of my knowledge, does not have a plan that costs $645 per month).

I'm no internet expert. I understand that there may be explanations that mitigate all of the observations that I have noted above. I know that this is a loaded post that is leading in its implications. I was a happy HC citizen, and I donated each month — without exception — and I didn't mind doing it. As a leech with nothing else to offer, the cost of an album or two every four weeks or so was not too big of a price to pay for access to such a great Dylan bootleg archive. I'm not upset about the money, but I don't like it when people lie to me (especially in order to get money). That said, it seems likely from his front page missives asking after donations that English is not Shareef's first language, and he very well may have misspoken without deliberate intent to deceive. But, even if that is the case, it is a bad business practice.

I know that there are a lot of passionate HC supporters here, and I'm sure that they have valid arguments as to why HC is not yet back online. More power to HC's owner and to them. These are just my two pennies, and you should only take them for what they are worth.

B.

[paddington]

that is a good post

thank you

welcome to TTD

Originally Posted by jameskg

welcome to TTD

Thank you.

I'm happy to be here.

[JackDog]

I just checked HC and it went to a GoDaddy page with the domain name for sale, so does that mean that it's done for good?

[paddington]

Originally Posted by JackDog

I just checked HC and it went to a GoDaddy page with the domain name for sale, so does that mean that it's done for good?

There's probably still time to donate.

[direwolf-pgh]

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[direwolf-pgh]

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[JackDog]

Originally Posted by jameskg

There's probably still time to donate.

Sometimes the simplest jokes are the funniest.

[rainydayman]

Originally Posted by rocketsocket

First post here. Big fan of TTD but also a big fan of HC. Lots of stuff there you don't find anywhere else, including a ton of great Beatles A&V (banned elsewhere).

I have donated to HC in the past but refuse to stain myself ever again with PP so I have to do it through a third party who doesn't have any brains or self-respect and thinks PP is the salvation of all humanity. Didn't donate during this crisis yet because I can't reach Stain Man ATM but I plan to donate again ASAP. I wish BT operators could work with Google Wallet, Amazon Payments, BitCoin, etc. ... anything but PP! I'd mail cash if there was a way to get it to you.

I have had a number of dealings with ShaReeF and he has been the epitome of professionalism, courtesy, and cooperation. Rather than push for a donation in our PMs, he told me not to sweat it. Given those encounters, I find it very hard to believe that there's anything improper taking place. No argument from me that better communication from him would help the public perception, but as someone who used to be on call to put radio stations back on the air after transmitter failures (some catastrophic), I know what a PITA it is when people keep asking "are we almost there yet?". It will be done just as soon as it can be done and not a second sooner. I'm willing to cut him a lot of slack because he's done far more for the HC community than most of us have ever done for him and I am grateful to him and everyone else who runs a BT tracker (Lynne - thanks much for the great job (ZERO OUTAGES) you do with TTD!).

I have no inside info about WTF may be going on at HC but my sense is that he's doing what he can to make it work. There have been some changes in page availability over the past couple of days that lead me to belive something is afoot. If it never resurfaces for any reason we'll all be worse off, so I hope that's not the case. But I needed to put in a good word for ShaReeF as a good guy who's done good work in the past and wish him well in this bad situation.

Back to the shadows for me.

I totally agree with you. Any other kind of public comment putting into question Shareef's proffesionalism is simply malicious.

[paddington]

nah, whatever the guy's past actions and rep, dangling the website, previously and currently funded by donations, over the heads of said donors and not allowing them to use it until they send more money is uncool.

Of course, he can do what he wants with the site but people don't have to continue to donate (and they obviously didn't).

[Stranger09]

I too would like to speak up for ShaReef...as a reasonably frequent uploader to HC, albeit one where - like with any uploads I do - I hope to elicit uploads in return where possible, I contributed when I could, and he never pushed me over this.

I can't add much to the very recent positive posts apart from saying I agree with them and that I hope their positive tone proves correct.

Here's hoping.

[LuvGlimmerTwins]

Originally Posted by Stranger09

I too would like to speak up for ShaReef...as a reasonably frequent uploader to HC, albeit one where - like with any uploads I do - I hope to elicit uploads in return where possible, I contributed when I could, and he never pushed me over this.

I can't add much to the very recent positive posts apart from saying I agree with them and that I hope their positive tone proves correct.

Here's hoping.

Thank you, Stranger09

[nutzrocker]

Latest Update: -

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HUNGERCITY UPDATE - 13TH AUGUST, 2013 (4:00PM EST)
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HUNGERCITY WILL BE UP AND RUNNING WITHIN DAYS!!!
PEACE & LOVE TO ALL!


- SHAREEF

[direwolf-pgh]

interesting thread..
http://thehcforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=4687

dontations were sent / no update even the mods don't know whats up.
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