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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?
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But also if Lynne is willing to change the policy, id enforce it myself. Also as far as "delusions of grandeur" this has to do with ones own recording, not ones ego. No members have liked this post.
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?
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Not only are some bands "taper-unfriendly" but many sites like this one can be incredibly "taper unfriendly", thanks to the SOME people chosen to moderate, and their style of moderating. Biting the hand that feeds you? The hallmark of this hobby since Bram Cohen crawled out of his closet is just that, chomping hard on the hand is more like it. I understand both sides of the debate, and I can see that both sides wouldn't know the term "courtesy" if it was tattooed on their frigging foreheads. Could the torrent have been taken down? Sure, and done quietly, with a pm to the seeder about courtesy, nobody would have had this wonderful debate to take sides on.... Could FM99 have just said to himself, screw it, live and learn.... sure he could, and known what NOT to do in the future And I'm not saying that any of the TTD mods responding in this thread are doing anything less than their "sworn duty".... Not a one of 'em has done anything less than what was expected of 'em.... Could be they discussed the subject in private, so they could all be on the same page? You bet'chum, Red Ryder. And they've done a great job of trying to explain the site's viewpoint, whether it was stridently, or with an eye to smoothing over ANY ruffled feathers. Realize that ol' FM99 had lost the arguement long before he began it. In fact, his arguement isn't with TTD or the staff, his problem is with the person he gave it to, whether that be Carina or someone else. FM99's best bet would be to beat the living crap out of whomever disrespected his wishes, bust a kneecap or two and permanently disable the cocksucker.... although that might open a new can of worms. probably dealing with laws and lawyers and jail time, but I'll bet ya, after that nobody would disrespect his wishes... and if made public, especially all over the internet, it might even make one or two assclown think twice. Unless ol' FM99 has figured it out and gives nothing away ever again. Which is his perrogative. I think we'd all find that funny, no matter which side of this debate we favor. To hear of some taper beating the living fuck out of someone who asked for it by disrespecting his wishes, no matter who owns the music copyrights, yeah, we'd all laugh at that. __________________________________________________________ Truthfully, the best way not to have a clandestine recording circulate in any way is to not let ANY copies out. There are ways to curb circulation, but most "modern" collectors don't give a rat's ass about anything except their own greed, many of 'em download stuff they'll never listen to, just because they can. Some of 'em have more music downloaded then they'll ever be able to listen to in their lives and still wanna suck down more..... You have been given some absolutely great advice (rspencer) and some self-serving advice in this thread by people who wouldn't deign to ever do any recording. Time to let go, my friend, because you ain't gonna win. You are pissing in the wind, trying to convince someone with entitlement issues about biting the hand. There are things you can do that will make you feel better about the numerous greed-heads out there, sabotaging a recording before putting it in circulation, but in the long run it isn't gonna matter... There are dozens of idiots who live for those sort of recordings because then they get to REMASTER and slap their names on 'em. Also, never forget that there are ten times that many idiots who enjoy lying about lineage anyway. The hobby is fueled by entitlement and that ain't gonna change no more, no more no more, so Hit The Road Jack, Your recording belongs to them now. ENTITLEMENT.... go back and read some of the replies you got, and see if that isn't what the motivation is. ENTITLEMENT.....sometimes known as biting the hand that feeds you........
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Last edited by freezer; 2010-08-10 at 10:43 PM. Reason: adding the word ENTITLEMENT a few more times to drive the point home |
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?
Good post. Courtesy and entitlement. I like that guy.
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Re: Generation Question - Master or 1st Gen?
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You are ABSOLUTELY never going to be a low-gen Led Zeppelin collector... Have you never heard the term...."THAT WHICH PASSES FOR THE MASTER"....? A Led Zep low-gen collector in Burbank coined that one. It was a standard LZ low-gen term, until the advent of B/T and lying about generations became de rigueur. good golly, young Spencer, you need to do a bit more study on the history of the hobby. (However, Reggie, you are a goddam genius, for your neat and sussinct phrasing of the obvious....although it probably won't make you any friends among the trolls.)
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?
havent seen any posts from carina, the volbeat uploader. in fact, its been quite awhile
since their last appearance... Total Posts: 1 Posts Per Day: 0.02 Find all posts by Carina Find all threads started by Carina Visitor Messages Total Messages: 0 Most Recent Message: Never Visitor Messages for Carina Post a visitor message for Carina General Information Last Activity: 07-15-10 04:33 PM Join Date: 06-20-10 in fact, this is now at dime. the uploader there joined on june 20th as well and has only this one upload. one runs the risk of seeing a show elsewhere, if its traded out. but there is something to be said about having a trusted source. lots of shows from many bands have seen very limited to zero circulation and remain as such for various reasons. (take the sabbath dumfries show, or the elusive doors nola tape) it takes years to have a trusted trader,and it seems most of that attitude passed on shortly after the birth of the burner. everythings gonna be all right. things could be a lot worse. but arguing to remove a show, when its a little hard to prove beyond any doubt that you are the taper, is just futile. No members have liked this post.
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You are preaching to the choir, here. I'm sorry tapes get traded when people ask others not to do it - but it isn't a new thing did you just tape your first concert or what? If there's a better version to be had, we'll do a swap. We always do. We WILL NOT PULL A SHOW BECAUSE SOME GUY DECIDES HE NO LONGER WANTS IT TRADED after he's handed out copies. and please do not start that bullshit again about how the show was uncirculated before it was torrented here. That isn't possible. Many of us have been where you are - but you have to learn you cannot control everything. When the tape goes out, it's out. You cannot moderate the entire internet and the shit you are taping doesn't belong to you, anyway.
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?
but I want an Oompa-Loompa now!!!!
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?
You're entitled, right?
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Personally - if a taper asked to take it down TTD should honor the request but the reality is once he trades it out all bets are off!
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Even Freezer can agree with that!
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?
Meanwhile in the real world:
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Will any stealthed recordings that may possibly captured at the Mile High Music Festival be allowed through the auspices of The Trader's Den? Considering this may be a wonderful opportunity for some of the 'entitlement crowd' to test their legal rights, will any staff members of TTD be willing to show up this week in a Colorado court to contest AEG's lawsuit? What a terrific opportunity for some of you folks to put your money where your mouth is. Jameskg and dcbullet could represent the entire bootlegging industry via their staff positions at TTD, because you can be goddam motherfucking sure that AEG Live's team of attorneys won't make any distinction between "free distribution" and "selling for a profit" in a court of law; the challenge of making the distinction will fall squarely on the defendants shoulders. Best of luck to James and Billy-Bob!
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