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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
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GRC, try the foobar2000 method described above to convert AIFF to FLAC. It's painless, free, simple, and more importantly, it works! It's a lot less painless than dealing with Audacity, because it's just a simple conversion, there are no sample rate or bit depth boxes to check. No members have liked this post.
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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
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The AIFFs are/were in the Masterlink (on the HDD), and so is the CD drive, so that's where they went. Regards, Graham No members have liked this post.
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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
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After reading all these posts, I'm not sure why/how you feel getting AIFF files out of this masterlink system is so difficult. AIFF file format has been around forever..its not proprietary.. its a common standard. your system burns AIFF to small capacity CD's burn out all the data from the masterlink internal hard drive (i read its a 4GB hard drive). now you have several 96/24 DATA audio discs (in AIFF format) put the DATA discs in your computer & transfer. use Foobar2000 to convert/compress to FLAC > seed out your torrent. is this not clear ? regards, me No members have liked this post.
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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
I know that.. I assumed he needed to use a better encoder than audacity since it wasn't working for 24 bit...
AIFF can be converted to WAV with very little trouble, since it's nearly the same thing. Most people won't take the time to do it, but I'm sure Grahanm could. Then he could use the more standard encoder to get better results, was my point.
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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
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"Is this not clear?" you said. Don't be so condescending. This isn't The Lounge. I didn't say 'getting the AIFFs out of the Masterlink' is 'difficult'. I can manage them onto the PC as AIFF files without any hassle at all. I asked about the possibility of including them as a valid file type in Audio torrents, so that those who asked for them could get them. You said you'd read all the posts.....? "your system burns AIFF to small capacity CD's burn out all the data from the masterlink internal hard drive (i read its a 4GB hard drive). now you have several 96/24 DATA audio discs (in AIFF format) put the DATA discs in your computer & transfer. " Yup. Managed this fine the last time I did it. "use Foobar2000 to convert/compress to FLAC > seed out your torrent." This is the only stage that I haven't tried yet; last time, I used Audacity, as folks here had suggested it would happily cope with, and output, 24-bit/96kHz, but despite many attempts, all it would output was 16-bit/44.1kHz. I don't have a learning difficulty, you know..... just because I haven't used foobar2000 YET, doesn't mean I have problems in understanding it or using it. Regards (sort of), Graham No members have liked this post.
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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
sorry about 'the tone' graham. I didn't mean to insinuate anything negative towards you personally.
sometimes im an ass - Ill work on the character flaw. Glad to hear you've got it sorted. I feared this was heading toward three pages. No members have liked this post.
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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
I just did this: took a 24/96 FLAC > converted to .aiff with foobar2000 > imported 24/96 .aiff into Audacity > changed **5** different settings in Audacity (changed track sample format from 32bit float to 24bit, disabled dithering, changed default sample rate to 96kHz, changed default sample format to 24bit, changed uncompressed export format to signed Microsoft 24bit WAV--which isn't immediately obvious, you have to select 'other' from the drop down box to access this option) > exported 24/96 WAV that can be encoded with FLAC Frontend or TLH. However, Audacity is changing the audio data somehow, because this exported WAV > encoded to FLAC DOES NOT MATCH THE ORIGINAL FINGERPRINT.
In other words, it's a real pain in the ass to do it with Audacity and will not yield bit perfect results. This is partly because Audacity is a fully featured audio editing/processing program. Foobar2000's conversion process, on the other hand, is elegantly simple. There are only a couple options, similar to FLAC Frontend: select FLAC level (1-8), replay gain processing (leave unchecked), DSP processing (leave unchecked), replay gain scan output files as albums (leave unchecked). And no audio data is changed in the conversion process with foobar2000. No members have liked this post.
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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
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I'm sure it's really easy with shntool w/an .aiff 'plugin', but that's command line. No members have liked this post.
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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
well, i hadn't been using the 'free' price-point as criteria since he's using an $800 recorder to transfer...
Graham, I think sharing the 24 bit audio here is great (and beneficial), i just think it needs to be 24-bit WAV and not AIFF... and FLAC'd. The seeder doing the work once to convert - not every leech having to convert after downloading, makes the most sense to me.
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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
There are lots of free lossless conversion GUIs: FLAC Frontend, TLH, mkwACT, xACT, Monkey's, foobar
And you'll get the same results converting .aiff directly to FLAC with foobar2000 as you would converting .aiff to .wav with some program > FLAC with FFE if you use the same version of FLAC and the same encoding level. It needs to be FLAC to reduce the size, so that less data has to be uploaded and downloaded. Once it's in FLAC, it will tend to be converted to .wav on a Windows machine, and .aiff on a Mac--if it gets converted at all. No members have liked this post.
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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
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If you convert AIFF to FLAC, what happens when you decode the FLAC? Do you get an AIFF file or WAV file? I had assumed you would get the AIFF file back?
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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
Once it's in FLAC, it can be converted to either aiff or wav, and it doesn't matter if the FLAC was sourced from wav or aiff. That's the beauty of it--Windows users and Mac users can convert any FLAC to their systems' default uncompressed audio format for burning CDs or editing/processing, and then upload, say, a remaster in FLAC that anyone can make use of.
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Re: Can I make a case for AIFF files in the Audio Torrent Forum?
^^ I should say decode instead of convert.
AIFF encoded to FLAC can be decoded directly to WAV or AIFF WAV encoded to FLAC can be decoded directly to WAV or AIFF No members have liked this post.
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