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Thulani
2010-09-13, 04:57 AM
It doesn't work with TLH. The pin menu it doesn't appearing and the drag n drop function is not working.

roann
2010-09-13, 07:10 AM
It doesn't work with TLH. The pin menu it doesn't appearing and the drag n drop function is not working.Will try to test/fix next weekend. Not sure if I'll have time for this.

Thulani
2010-09-13, 07:35 AM
OK man. Thanks for support.

feralicious
2010-09-13, 12:42 PM
@<hidden> feralicious:

:wtf: Never experienced this weirdness... totally confusing, especially as µTorrent is reported to be involved. :hmm: Things I'd try to localize the problem:

- Check for viruses and other malware.
- Check whether there are any instances of flac.exe running when TLH is closed.
- Check whether .flac file extension is associated with µTorrent.
- Uninstall Webroot, TLH and µTorrent completey. Re-install all three programs (latest TLH release here (http://tlh.easytree.org)).


Thanks for the fast reply.

I always hear that bolded response from the techs that have to come fix my Avid at work. Somehow I always manage to get problems no one has ever seen before! :cool:

I will try all that later today, after I'm fully awake. I shouldn't have any virus or spyware as I'm running Webroot, SuperAnti-Spyware (real time) and then run AdAware and Malwarebytes Antimalware scans as well.

Does TLH ever want anything to connect for updating? I believe this was the first time I've used it since installing Webroot. It will be interesting to see what happens when I reinstall all.

Side note: I'm running Vista that came with my laptop. I'm thinking of downgrading to XP since I have that already, do you think it's worth it to go to Win 7 instead?

Spelunker
2010-09-13, 06:35 PM
OMG Someone pinch me. Please.

Go to windows 7.

roann
2010-09-14, 12:21 PM
... Does TLH ever want anything to connect for updating?...TLH comes with a Check for update function that can be called via the Help menu. This function uses port 80 (most often used by browsers / HTTP). I don't know the specifics of your firewall but you may need to create a port rule so TLH isn't blocked when you want it to check for an update. Note that TLH _never_ tries to connect to the web automatically (you always have to go to Help > Check for update for that).

... Side note: I'm running Vista that came with my laptop. I'm thinking of downgrading to XP since I have that already, do you think it's worth it to go to Win 7 instead?If you like Windows Vista as a whole (new look, new functions, and so on), IMO it is worth to upgrade to Win 7 (it's the _real_ Vista). But if you don't need all the new stuff I'd prefer XP.

Thulani
2010-09-30, 02:22 AM
I just find out how you can pin TLH in the Win7 taskbar. Just rename the Traders Little Helper.exe to something else. It seems that the word 'Help' is one of those words in Win7 that can't be pinned.

roann
2010-09-30, 09:07 AM
I just find out how you can pin TLH in the Win7 taskbar. Just rename the Traders Little Helper.exe to something else. It seems that the word 'Help' is one of those words in Win7 that can't be pinned.I know about this Microsoft weirdness. But it's _not_ the reason for the pin problem (at least at first/second sight) because the TLH executable is named tralih.exe from the very beginning. I guess that Win 7 not only looks for the help string in the name of the executable but in other properties of the executable too. Until now I do not have a solution for the pin problem. And AFAIK you cannot "force" a program to be pinable via code (but maybe someone here knows the magic trick (if there is any)).

Thulani
2010-09-30, 10:13 AM
I think that happens because in the start menu the program is named Trader's Little Helper.

roann
2010-09-30, 10:45 AM
I think that happens because in the start menu the program is named Trader's Little Helper.No, that's not the (only) reason, unfortunately. Go to the TLH installation folder, right-click tralih.exe, and select the Pin option from the context-menu. Absolutely nothing will happen :mad:. BTW, Microsoft claims that only the name of the executable is searched for the help string. I really don't get it.

Thulani
2010-09-30, 11:01 AM
Though it works if you make a shortcut on the desktop then pin the program. It's very weird indeed.

TomB
2010-10-19, 10:45 PM
This might be a question that has been answered, but for the life of me I cannot find. If so, please forgive me!

I think I know of someone who is testing .flac files converted to .wav files for evidence of MPEG... can you speak to why a genuinely recorded .wav file that has been converted to flac, then back to .wav might produce a report that the audio came from MPEG??

Thanks !!

Drgiggles1
2010-10-20, 09:33 AM
This might be a question that has been answered, but for the life of me I cannot find. If so, please forgive me!

I think I know of someone who is testing .flac files converted to .wav files for evidence of MPEG... can you speak to why a genuinely recorded .wav file that has been converted to flac, then back to .wav might produce a report that the audio came from MPEG??

Thanks !!
Most likely a false positive. That's why it is recommended when checking for lossy you use Cool Edit Pro to check the spectral and frequency analysis preferably zoomed in on a 2 second area of the file. Also a file that has been recorded on a DAT recorder with a 16K drop off may be confused for a lossy file when indeed it is not.

TomB
2010-10-20, 03:59 PM
Most likely a false positive. That's why it is recommended when checking for lossy you use Cool Edit Pro to check the spectral and frequency analysis preferably zoomed in on a 2 second area of the file. Also a file that has been recorded on a DAT recorder with a 16K drop off may be confused for a lossy file when indeed it is not.

Interesting... is there any information to tell what TLH actually tests?? If there is a likelihood of false-positives, then this would not necessarily be a "go-to" tool for testing if FLACs are sourced from MPEG then would it?? as you say, the only way to truly tell is to see where the freq. roll-off exists....
So in your opinion is spectral analysis the ONLY definitive way to test?

Do you think the false positive comes from the codecs involved in going wav>flac>wav and are leaving some sort of artifact that TLH is sensing??

There is a site right now that is promoting the TLH test on files that have gone wav>flac>wav to test if they are not from MPEG.... I posted a recording that went from wav to flac, using the TLH codecs, and that very recording tested positive for MPEG in the TLH test!!

I might be the only one, but I stand by my statement that flac is NOT lossless and converting it back to a wav for anything other than a qualitative exam is worthless....

This is very bizarre and I am trying to decide if I should challenge this method since it seems very flawed to be the definitive test for their overall QC....

Any thoughts??

rspencer
2010-10-20, 04:33 PM
False positives usually occur due to the source material. Something with little upper frequency info appears to be lossy. And even a spectral isn't a fail-safe, it can be subjective.

Were you the source for the wav files you tested? If not, there could have been a lossy step in the lineage in the past.

TomB
2010-10-20, 05:22 PM
yes the files came off my tape into soundforge, went up to 24/96 for some eq and loudness and then dithered back to 16/48 wav. since soundforge is sector boundary friendly, I divided the files there then batch converted them in TLH into flac and seeded.... someone then took those files, turned them back into wav and tested... almost ALL of them reported MPEG ! crazy !!
If you read some of my comments, I am thinking that the double conversion is going to flaw pretty much anything you try.... I've read endless reports of lots of people here getting different results even from the subjective spectral... seems there is NO definitive test after all ??

Thulani
2010-10-21, 02:41 AM
It's not that for sure, I've just tested with 3 different sources. CDDA first conversion, CDDA second conversion

roann
2010-10-21, 07:48 AM
... is there any information to tell what TLH actually tests??...TLH uses the free command-line tool auCDtect to test wav files for MPEG. The decisions this tool makes are based on some sophisticated math formula. All info about the algorithm details can be found here (http://en.true-audio.com/Tau_Analyzer_-_Aucdtect_Algorithm_Details). Note that auCDtect is intended / was developed for testing studio recordings for MPEG (commercially available audio CDs, for example). Because it's impossible to develop a math formula for testing live recordings auCDtect will fail on many live recordings (depends on a lot of things).

... If there is a likelihood of false-positives, then this would not necessarily be a "go-to" tool for testing if FLACs are sourced from MPEG then would it?? as you say, the only way to truly tell is to see where the freq. roll-off exists....
So in your opinion is spectral analysis the ONLY definitive way to test?...On live recordings TLH / auCDtect only should be used as a first hint whether or not the audio data is lossy sourced. The real deal always is frequency and spectral analysis. In most cases you'll get the right result, but sometimes you cannot tell for sure whether the audio data is lossy sourced. So there is no definitve way to test things.

... Do you think the false positive comes from the codecs involved in going wav>flac>wav and are leaving some sort of artifact that TLH is sensing??...

... I might be the only one, but I stand by my statement that flac is NOT lossless and converting it back to a wav for anything other than a qualitative exam is worthless...FLAC definitely is a lossless codec. So wav > flac > wav will result in the same audio data (as can be proved) - nothing is lost, no artefacts are added.

... There is a site right now that is promoting the TLH test on files that have gone wav>flac>wav to test if they are not from MPEG.... I posted a recording that went from wav to flac, using the TLH codecs, and that very recording tested positive for MPEG in the TLH test!! ...Can you provide an URL please?

... yes the files came off my tape into soundforge, went up to 24/96 for some eq and loudness and then dithered back to 16/48 wav. since soundforge is sector boundary friendly, I divided the files there then batch converted them in TLH into flac and seeded.... someone then took those files, turned them back into wav and tested... almost ALL of them reported MPEG ! crazy !!...So you compared your original files with the processed ones? In particular equalizing and dithering up to 24/96 and back to 16/48 will alter the audio data in a way that may cause auCDtect to get wrong test results!

rspencer
2010-10-21, 04:16 PM
Any software is just an aid, your eyes & ears will be needed to help be sure.

In general, you'll only get false positives. So if it says it's MPEG-sourced, you'll have to look into it further. If it says it's not lossy, you're good.

TomB
2010-11-12, 05:21 PM
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, but I wanted to be sure and thank you not only for TLH, but also for being so readily available. I am now well informed and able to mentally move on... it was just one of those things, call it OCD :wave::whistle:

Thanks again for your help!

Seth01
2011-01-27, 07:07 PM
I'm wondering if anyone has successfully used the MULTIPLE tracker feature on TLH when creating a torrent? Does this mean that I can upload the same .torrent file to several different private trackers and seed all of them at the same time? Has this worked for anyone?

Thanks for any replies and of course a HUGE thanks to roann once again for developing this amazingly helpful tool. :cool:

mike1061
2011-01-27, 08:51 PM
Not quite what you are looking for but I'm able to do it with just downloads. As you know I use a "seedbox" and with your Robert Plant torrent I was able to DL the torrent from here. Then as you posted it to dime, I DL'ed that torrent, re-named the dime torrent, it checked the existng dated and started seeding. All I do is add a "1" in front of the second torrent and it works every time.
Thanks Mike

tonebloke
2011-01-27, 10:40 PM
Does this mean that I can upload the same .torrent file to several different private trackers and seed all of them at the same time?


Not sure about the multiple torrents, BUT, your max upload speed will be cut due to the number of sites you up the torrent to. The more sites, and leeches, the slower the speed.
"Not good" waiting weeks to finish downloading a show !

mike1061
2011-01-27, 11:14 PM
He doesn't have that problem. The speeds he gets are great.
Thanks Mike

Seth01
2011-01-28, 12:17 AM
Not quite what you are looking for but I'm able to do it with just downloads. As you know I use a "seedbox" and with your Robert Plant torrent I was able to DL the torrent from here. Then as you posted it to dime, I DL'ed that torrent, re-named the dime torrent, it checked the existng dated and started seeding. All I do is add a "1" in front of the second torrent and it works every time.
Thanks Mike

OK, but then you're just uploading to one tracker at a time, right. :hmm: Just switching back and forth? As I'm the original seeder, I'd like to be able to seed the same torrent to a few private trackers at the same time. I don't think it'd be possible as each one requires it's own passkey. So even though I can create a .torrent file with all of the trackers' announce url's in it, I can only actually upload to one at a time. Unless I'm not getting it.

Not sure about the multiple torrents, BUT, your max upload speed will be cut due to the number of sites you up the torrent to. The more sites, and leeches, the slower the speed.
"Not good" waiting weeks to finish downloading a show !

Yeah, tonebloke, I appreciate the feedback but Mike's right. That's not a problem for me as I get good speeds. Nobody waits a long time to download from me unless they're unconnectable. :D

tonebloke
2011-01-28, 01:57 AM
Fair enough.

tunic
2011-01-28, 08:15 PM
I'm wondering if anyone has successfully used the MULTIPLE tracker feature on TLH when creating a torrent? Does this mean that I can upload the same .torrent file to several different private trackers and seed all of them at the same time? Has this worked for anyone?

yes, that's exactly how it works. I've used it (for download only) on other trackers. But I seem to recall that Dime disallows this feature. You could double-check it with the mods though.

Not quite what you are looking for but I'm able to do it with just downloads. As you know I use a "seedbox" and with your Robert Plant torrent I was able to DL the torrent from here. Then as you posted it to dime, I DL'ed that torrent, re-named the dime torrent, it checked the existng dated and started seeding. All I do is add a "1" in front of the second torrent and it works every time.
Thanks Mike

There's a much easier way than that: when you download the second torrent a popup shows up asking you if you want to load the tracker into the existing torrent. At least that's how it works in utorrent. So then you can download it from two trackers at the same time, and give you a bigger download speed

mike1061
2011-01-29, 01:15 AM
Seth
I am uploading to two different trackers at the same time. I only downloaded the files from the first tracker. By the time you posted to the second tracker, the speeds on the first were slow. But I don't see what difference that would make, the upload speeds are per torrent, not per file set.

tunic
I'm not using utorrent, so I don't have the pop up window.

Thanks Mike

tunic
2011-01-29, 08:37 AM
I had some more thought on this. It is indeed not possible to use the multi tracker feature when you create the .torrent file because of the passkey. However the manner I described to download the same fileset from two trackers should also work for you to upload it.

johnlennon696
2011-02-07, 04:20 AM
I DL some files that had SBE's, are these settings ok to fix them using TLH:

http://i53.tinypic.com/i5vmua.jpg

roann
2011-02-07, 05:48 AM
I DL some files that had SBE's, are these settings ok to fix them using TLH:

http://i53.tinypic.com/i5vmua.jpgYes, they are ok.

Note that the names of the fixed files will have the string -fixed appended (the fixed version of track01.flac will be named track01-fixed.flac, for example). If you don't want this: _un_check the Target file names option Append string '-fixed' (see Options > Preferences > Fix SBEs) _and_ choose another output location than the source file directory.

johnlennon696
2011-02-07, 06:00 AM
Thankyou mate, that is great...

Unidecker
2011-02-07, 09:16 AM
EQ'n tracks ruins the archives... dont do it leave the tracks as is and seed let the people EQ for there own needs. dont do it pre processing. NO NO

roann
2011-02-07, 11:42 AM
EQ'n tracks ruins the archives... dont do it leave the tracks as is and seed let the people EQ for there own needs. dont do it pre processing. NO NOFixing SBEs has nothing to do with equalizing.

mstaggerlee
2011-04-14, 11:52 PM
I've recently downloaded the earliest Dispatch show posted on the llama (dispatch1996-04-16), in .shn format. A notice on the page this show was posted on stated that the files should not be converted to mp3, by request of the band.

I have a strong preference for .flac files over .shns (winamp's flac performance is far better than with .shns, and Nero will convert flacs to CDDA on the fly when/if you want to burn a disc), so after running the checksums (they all passed) I tried to convert the shns to flac format, using TLH v 2.6.0, build 168 (pretty sure this is the latest). Of the 19 files, only 2 generated error messages (child encoder process had non-zero exit status), but I only found 8 flac files in the folder after conversion!

Amazed, I repeated the conversion. Sure enough, several files simply vanish just as the next file is being written. Never one to give up easily, I decoded the .shns to .wav. This process seemed to go very smoothly. No error messages, and on testing all but 5 .wav files were all found to look like CDDA with 100% confidence, the remainder with 99%, and I noted no correlation between the 99%ers and the shns that wouldn't convert.

But anyway, now that the files are in .wav format, it should be a simple matter to simply convert them to .flac, right?

Well, not so much, as it turns out. All 19 files did indeed convert, but the 11 tracks that would not convert directly from shn to flac all produced an error message (file is truncated or otherwise corrupt). These 11 flacs seem to play just fine in winamp, but I still felt kinda hinky about them.

So, I tested them and all 11 produced the following error -
file is decodable without error, but flac fingerprint cannot be checked, since it was unset in the streaminfo block.

Also, if I attempt to decode these .flacs back to .wav, for the same 11 tracks I get the same error message, and those .wavs vanish just like the flacs did on direct conversion.

So ... any ideas about what's goin' on here?

Thulani
2011-04-15, 12:49 AM
Did you try to run the .md5 file to see if fingerprints match?

roann
2011-04-15, 10:37 AM
I've recently downloaded the earliest Dispatch show posted on the llama (dispatch1996-04-16), in .shn format. A notice on the page this show was posted on stated that the files should not be converted to mp3, by request of the band.

I have a strong preference for .flac files over .shns (winamp's flac performance is far better than with .shns, and Nero will convert flacs to CDDA on the fly when/if you want to burn a disc), so after running the checksums (they all passed) I tried to convert the shns to flac format, using TLH v 2.6.0, build 168 (pretty sure this is the latest). Of the 19 files, only 2 generated error messages (child encoder process had non-zero exit status), but I only found 8 flac files in the folder after conversion!

Amazed, I repeated the conversion. Sure enough, several files simply vanish just as the next file is being written. Never one to give up easily, I decoded the .shns to .wav. This process seemed to go very smoothly. No error messages, and on testing all but 5 .wav files were all found to look like CDDA with 100% confidence, the remainder with 99%, and I noted no correlation between the 99%ers and the shns that wouldn't convert.

But anyway, now that the files are in .wav format, it should be a simple matter to simply convert them to .flac, right?

Well, not so much, as it turns out. All 19 files did indeed convert, but the 11 tracks that would not convert directly from shn to flac all produced an error message (file is truncated or otherwise corrupt). These 11 flacs seem to play just fine in winamp, but I still felt kinda hinky about them.

So, I tested them and all 11 produced the following error -
file is decodable without error, but flac fingerprint cannot be checked, since it was unset in the streaminfo block.

Also, if I attempt to decode these .flacs back to .wav, for the same 11 tracks I get the same error message, and those .wavs vanish just like the flacs did on direct conversion.

So ... any ideas about what's goin' on here?
I've downloaded the whole show for testing purposes. Unfortunately I have to confirm all the strange things you've described.

If you run TLH's Show audio files details function (see Analysis section) you get this:

length expanded size cdr WAVE problems fmt ratio filename
1:51.47 19690986 B -b- -- -a-xx shn 0.3994 dispatch1996-04-16d1t01.shn
9:35.05 101440826 B -b- -- -a-xx shn 0.5647 dispatch1996-04-16d1t02.shn
6:05.62 64531018 B -b- -- -a-xx shn 0.5640 dispatch1996-04-16d1t03.shn
8:46.22 92837512 B -b- -- ---xx shn 0.5500 dispatch1996-04-16d1t04.shn
8:40.55 91858472 B -b- -- ---xx shn 0.5111 dispatch1996-04-16d1t05.shn
7:27.25 78910668 B -b- -- ---xx shn 0.6009 dispatch1996-04-16d1t06.shn
1:51.37 19666510 B -b- -- -a-xx shn 0.4773 dispatch1996-04-16d1t07.shn
3:10.38 33605592 B -b- -- ---xx shn 0.4569 dispatch1996-04-16d1t08.shn
7:29.32 79277808 B -b- -- ---xx shn 0.6277 dispatch1996-04-16d1t09.shn
6:03.66 64188354 B -b- -- -a-xx shn 0.5758 dispatch1996-04-16d1t10.shn
8:31.59 90279770 B -b- -- -a-xx shn 0.5509 dispatch1996-04-16d1t11.shn
7:12.21 76255022 B -b- -- -a-xx shn 0.5602 dispatch1996-04-16d2t01.shn
7:04.13 74823176 B -b- -- ---xx shn 0.6008 dispatch1996-04-16d2t02.shn
5:38.47 59733722 B -b- -- -a-xx shn 0.6189 dispatch1996-04-16d2t03.shn
8:27.37 89521014 B -b- -- -a-xx shn 0.6070 dispatch1996-04-16d2t04.shn
3:45.36 39773544 B -b- -- ---xx shn 0.5428 dispatch1996-04-16d2t05.shn
4:03.44 42967662 B -b- -- -a-xx shn 0.5694 dispatch1996-04-16d2t06.shn
5:01.07 53112964 B -b- -- ---xx shn 0.6205 dispatch1996-04-16d2t07.shn
0:05.15 917894 B -b- -- -a-xx shn 0.1982 dispatch1996-04-16d2t08.shn
110:51.66 1173392514 B 0.5679 (19 files)

For all files that cause trouble there is an a in the problems column. This is for audio data is not block-aligned.

The shorten decoder (not written by me) decodes those files without any error message - that's why TLH tells you that all files were decoded successfully. Note: if the audio data of the shn file is not block-aligned the audio data of the decoded wav file isn't block-aligned either.

If you encode to flac now (or shn > flac using Convert encoding format) the flac encoder gives you as encoding result, for example:

dispatch1996-04-16d1t01.wav: 96% complete, ratio=0,385
dispatch1996-04-16d1t01.wav: ERROR: got partial sample

So TLH is right when logging dispatch1996-04-16d1t01.wav: file is truncated or otherwise corrupt. TLH deletes such erroneous files per default. That's why the encoded/converted stuff vanishes into thin air.

Rodiebluez1
2011-04-15, 04:19 PM
Does Anyone know a new link for this Tapers Little Helper? The link in the threads are all dead. Thanks.:wave:

mstaggerlee
2011-04-15, 05:26 PM
So, roann, is there any way that one can force the audio data to be block-aligned? Can the .wav files be manipulated in any way to fix the alignment, or am I going to have to keep 2 copies of this show - one to listen to and one to burn?

Thanks for your help!

mstaggerlee
2011-04-15, 10:23 PM
DUH! Guess I hadda write it down, post it, & read it again. How can I manipulate a .wav file? WITH A WAV EDITOR, DUMMY! Decode the .shns, copy & append each .wav file into one BIG file, re-slice & save new .wav files. Betcha THOSE will convert properly! :)

Sorry to waste your bandwidth.

tunic
2011-04-16, 04:47 AM
Does Anyone know a new link for this Tapers Little Helper? The link in the threads are all dead. Thanks.:wave:

http://tlh.easytree.org/

So, roann, is there any way that one can force the audio data to be block-aligned? Can the .wav files be manipulated in any way to fix the alignment, or am I going to have to keep 2 copies of this show - one to listen to and one to burn?

Thanks for your help!

Instead of messing with them yourself, you could also try to contact the taper / uploader and notify him that he's sharing corrupt files.

mstaggerlee
2011-04-16, 03:07 PM
http://tlh.easytree.org/

Instead of messing with them yourself, you could also try to contact the taper / uploader and notify him that he's sharing corrupt files.

I'd love to, but neither the Taper nor the Uploader is identified on the LMA. If I get ambitious, I may try to find out who administers the LMA's Dispatch collection and suggest that he either replace what's currently posted with the fixed fileset I've created, or just post mine up there as well.

roann
2011-04-17, 02:50 AM
I'd love to, but neither the Taper nor the Uploader is identified on the LMA. If I get ambitious, I may try to find out who administers the LMA's Dispatch collection and suggest that he either replace what's currently posted with the fixed fileset I've created, or just post mine up there as well.It's a bad idea to put out your fileset because most likely your files aren't fixed at all.

The audio data is not block-aligned error message indicates that the WAV data is truncated. It's hard to tell how this happened. One reason may be that some files have been truncated from cutoffs during FTP. Another reason may be a faulty shn compression (Shorten doesn't have much error detection). Or the original shn files were created from truncated wav files. Or the errors were introduced when burning/ripping the files to/from silver.

If you use an audio editor to join tracks d1t02 and d1t03, for example, you can clearly see a skip in the waveform at the position where the files were put together (see attachment). This skip will stay when encoding to flac though you won't get the not block-aligned error message anymore.

So, if you put out your "fixed" fileset, a lot of people will think it is ok - but it is not, it's still a corrupt fileset (it's just harder to detect this corruption now). Better you post a comment over at the Archive and tell people that the shn fileset is corrupt (though the skips may not be audible; I didn't check this).

tunic
2011-04-17, 03:03 AM
I'd love to, but neither the Taper nor the Uploader is identified on the LMA. If I get ambitious, I may try to find out who administers the LMA's Dispatch collection and suggest that he either replace what's currently posted with the fixed fileset I've created, or just post mine up there as well.

that's what I don't like about the LMA, that there's no way to see who uploaded the show or send that person a private email (or PM). You can still post a comment, that way you can also find out the uploader's email: post a comment, then you'll get to a confirmation page, you'll see somewhere a link (on the top bar I think it was) to look into the log of the past actions for that show. Found that out last week by accident.

gluttony
2011-05-05, 02:42 PM
Does anyone have an older build of TLH? This new one is just horrifically awful. Looking specifically for any build that will let me right click and pass multiple directories for decoding -- who decided that removing batch processing was a good idea? Ugh.

roann
2011-05-06, 10:38 AM
Does anyone have an older build of TLH?...I have all builds of TLH.

...This new one is just horrifically awful...Which new one do you talk about?

...Looking specifically for any build that will let me right click and pass multiple directories for decoding...To my knowledge TLH was never able to do this.

...who decided that removing batch processing was a good idea? Ugh.Most likely this was my decision - I coded TLH.

gmm6797
2011-05-06, 11:28 AM
Most likely this was my decision - I coded TLH.

:clap:

gluttony
2011-05-09, 09:34 AM
Which new one do you talk about?

I'm currently using 2.6.0 build 168, which has a completely different GUI from the one I used before.

To my knowledge TLH was never able to do this.

It did, and marvelously. I was able to select up to 15 folders, right click, and have it pass all of them for decoding/encoding. Now, it complains if I try to pass more than one directory, which slows me down immensely. It's enough to make me stop using the program altogether, which I pretty much have. The batch function was what sold it for me. Can I have it back? :(

roann
2011-05-10, 07:33 AM
Which new one do you talk about?

I'm currently using 2.6.0 build 168, which has a completely different GUI from the one I used before.

To my knowledge TLH was never able to do this.

It did, and marvelously. I was able to select up to 15 folders, right click, and have it pass all of them for decoding/encoding. Now, it complains if I try to pass more than one directory, which slows me down immensely. It's enough to make me stop using the program altogether, which I pretty much have. The batch function was what sold it for me. Can I have it back? :(The latest release is v2.6.0 build 168, the first release with the new GUI is v2.0.0 build 142, the last release with the old GUI is v1.1.1 build 90. Starting with v1.1.1 build 90 (or v1.1.0 build 89; not sure about that) no release is able to process more than one folder.

But you're right, v1.0.0 build 72 (released in October 2005) actually is able to process multiple folders. I don't remember why I changed things back then (there must be a reason). So I have to take a look at the source code of both releases. But do I still have the files for releases prior to build 90? Where the hell are my old backup DVDs...

Anyway, there will be a new release soon (probably next week). If there's a way to get your most wanted feature back to work it will be included. Stay tuned...

gmm6797
2011-05-10, 08:58 AM
Anyway, there will be a new release soon (probably next week). If there's a way to get your most wanted feature back to work it will be included. Stay tuned...

Is there any way to have the "Create Checksum File Type" saved from session to session?

Thanks

roann
2011-05-10, 10:15 AM
Is there any way to have the "Create Checksum File Type" saved from session to session?

ThanksOptions > Preferences > Create checksum file. Choose the type using the Type of checksum file to create box, and press the Apply button.

gmm6797
2011-05-10, 11:11 AM
Options > Preferences > Create checksum file. Choose the type using the Type of checksum file to create box, and press the Apply button.

I have it set to MD5 in there, but when I encode, it always defaults to FFP

roann
2011-05-10, 11:41 AM
Options > Preferences > Create checksum file. Choose the type using the Type of checksum file to create box, and press the Apply button.

I have it set to MD5 in there, but when I encode, it always defaults to FFPSo the checksum to create is related to encoding. Here the type of the checksum file to create cannot be saved from session to session.

gmm6797
2011-05-10, 01:23 PM
So the checksum to create is related to encoding. Here the type of the checksum file to create cannot be saved from session to session.

Well, I am no programmer, but isnt there at least a way to "flag" the item in the dropdown menu that could be coded into the preference section of the tool?

roann
2011-05-10, 03:41 PM
So the checksum to create is related to encoding. Here the type of the checksum file to create cannot be saved from session to session.

Well, I am no programmer, but isnt there at least a way to "flag" the item in the dropdown menu that could be coded into the preference section of the tool?
Sure; added to the list...

gmm6797
2011-05-10, 08:16 PM
Sure; added to the list...

Thats all I can ask, thanks!

ncalsurfer
2011-05-12, 11:18 AM
Hi Roann,
I would like to echo gluttony's sentiment about the multiple folder processing. If its possible to bring it back, I would really appreciate it. I haven't used TLH in a long time and was disappointed to find this feature missing in the latest version.

Thanks for all your hard work and support on this incredible tool!

jerry1970
2011-05-17, 06:11 AM
How can I add TLH to File Menu Tools so I can click on a single file or list of selected files and send it to the TLH interface?

I have TLH integrated in explorer, but it only works on folders, not files. I need TLH to work on one or a few files a lot of times, so I wanted to add it to File Menu Tools. I need a program and the arguments.

Program is easy:
C:\Program Files\Trader's Little Helper\tralih.exe

But what are the arguments? If I send the filename(s) with or without paths, TLH says the parameters are incorrect. I assume TLH expects an option like -in or -files or something, but I cannot find the documentation for that...

Any help is appreciated for this otherwise marvellous tool!

roann
2011-05-17, 08:06 AM
How can I add TLH to File Menu Tools so I can click on a single file or list of selected files and send it to the TLH interface?

I have TLH integrated in explorer, but it only works on folders, not files. I need TLH to work on one or a few files a lot of times, so I wanted to add it to File Menu Tools. I need a program and the arguments.

Program is easy:
C:\Program Files\Trader's Little Helper\tralih.exe

But what are the arguments? If I send the filename(s) with or without paths, TLH says the parameters are incorrect. I assume TLH expects an option like -in or -files or something, but I cannot find the documentation for that...

Any help is appreciated for this otherwise marvellous tool!It's a little trickier than you might think because it depends a) on the OS you're using and b) on other programs who have registered for the same file types as TLH.

Please start TLH and try Options > Restore shell integration. If this doesn't help you'll have to wait for the new release that among other things fixes all the issues with integration into Windows Explorer context menus. The new installer will be available (most likeley) around the next weekend.

greens
2011-05-18, 12:33 PM
Is the user manual for TLH still available? When I try to access it it says its only available in the older versions.

I'm very much interested in learning all the in's and out's of the program as I am currently quite ignorant on the subject.

roann
2011-05-19, 06:01 AM
Is the user manual for TLH still available? When I try to access it it says its only available in the older versions.It's not available anymore because lots of things were changed/added since v1.1.1.90. A new user manual needs to be written ... (any volunteers out there? chm format, or perhaps a wiki?).

I'm very much interested in learning all the in's and out's of the program as I am currently quite ignorant on the subject.Well, you can try the old user manual if you want to (but be warned). PM or email me if you're interested.

roann
2011-05-22, 06:05 AM
After some trouble getting it together the new release of TLH is now available: download it here (http://tlh.easytree.org/) or let TLH do the job (Help > Check for update...).

v2.7.0.172 fixes a few things, adds two options to the Preferences dialog, and enables TLH to process multiple folders passed via Windows Explorer context menus or Drag & Drop (details see changelog.txt). It's weird, very early versions of TLH were able to process multiple folders, but somewhere along the way from v1.0.0 build 72 to v1.1.1 build 90 this ability got lost. I still don't know why I removed this - even the well documented source code didn't help to find the reason. Anyway, here it is in all its glory. Enjoy!

Robert

PS: Note that this time you need to uninstall an existing version before the new installer can be executed. Sorry for the inconvenience.

germain
2011-06-15, 01:40 PM
I am having trouble accessing preferences and setting TLH defaults on my new computer (Windows 7 64 bit).
I am receiving the error message:
"User does not have administrative privileges.
The default setting can not be changed."

I have attempted to change permissions without success.
c:\program files\TLH -> properties -> security

As I am the only one on my computer, only 1 user was created and he has administrative permissions. However the security instructions are most confusing. Any guidance will be appreciated.

roann
2011-06-15, 03:41 PM
I am having trouble accessing preferences and setting TLH defaults on my new computer (Windows 7 64 bit).
I am receiving the error message:
"User does not have administrative privileges.
The default setting can not be changed."

I have attempted to change permissions without success.
c:\program files\TLH -> properties -> security

As I am the only one on my computer, only 1 user was created and he has administrative permissions. However the security instructions are most confusing. Any guidance will be appreciated.Even if you are logged in as an administrator - Win 7 doesn't allow you to do everything you want (writing to certain parts of the registry, for example). But there is a solution: right-click on the TLH desktop icon and select "Run as administrator". That's all. Note that this is only needed if you want to change the default settings or want to restore the integration of TLH into Windows Explorer context menus.

germain
2011-06-15, 04:43 PM
Worked like a charm!
Thanks:)

woff
2011-07-28, 06:31 PM
Even if you are logged in as an administrator - Win 7 doesn't allow you to do everything you want (writing to certain parts of the registry, for example). But there is a solution: right-click on the TLH desktop icon and select "Run as administrator". That's all. Note that this is only needed if you want to change the default settings or want to restore the integration of TLH into Windows Explorer context menus.


Thanks for this response - I too had that problem, now resolved.

Seth01
2011-07-29, 05:12 AM
Thanks for this response - I too had that problem, now resolved.

Same here...grateful for the response. :)

Crumbo
2011-08-16, 01:57 PM
After some trouble getting it together the new release of TLH is now available: download it here (http://tlh.easytree.org/) or let TLH do the job (Help > Check for update...).

v2.7.0.172 fixes a few things, adds two options to the Preferences dialog, and enables TLH to process multiple folders passed via Windows Explorer context menus or Drag & Drop (details see changelog.txt). It's weird, very early versions of TLH were able to process multiple folders, but somewhere along the way from v1.0.0 build 72 to v1.1.1 build 90 this ability got lost. I still don't know why I removed this - even the well documented source code didn't help to find the reason. Anyway, here it is in all its glory. Enjoy!

Robert

PS: Note that this time you need to uninstall an existing version before the new installer can be executed. Sorry for the inconvenience.


thanks a ton for this! :)

any chance you can implement verifying checksums (md5s/ffps/sts) in subfolders via windows explorer by right clicking on the main folder?

someshow.flac16
-disc 1
-d1.ffp
-disc 2
-d2.ffp

right now if I right click on someshow.flac16 and select TLH, then the option box opens up and I select verify checksum files, another box pops up and says- The folder is empty or does not contain files with the file extension(s) required

I see that there is a subfolder setting for creating checksums but not to verify them

maybe I'm doing something wrong

thanks! :cool:

Drgiggles1
2011-08-17, 03:27 PM
Thanks for the updated version.

roann
2011-08-17, 09:15 PM
thanks a ton for this! :)

any chance you can implement verifying checksums (md5s/ffps/sts) in subfolders via windows explorer by right clicking on the main folder?

someshow.flac16
-disc 1
-d1.ffp
-disc 2
-d2.ffp

right now if I right click on someshow.flac16 and select TLH, then the option box opens up and I select verify checksum files, another box pops up and says- The folder is empty or does not contain files with the file extension(s) required

I see that there is a subfolder setting for creating checksums but not to verify them

maybe I'm doing something wrong

thanks! :cool:There is no subfolder setting for verifying checksum files via Windows Explorer. Added to the to-do list...

Crumbo
2011-08-17, 10:01 PM
thanks a ton for this! :)

any chance you can implement verifying checksums (md5s/ffps/sts) in subfolders via windows explorer by right clicking on the main folder?

someshow.flac16
-disc 1
-d1.ffp
-disc 2
-d2.ffp

right now if I right click on someshow.flac16 and select TLH, then the option box opens up and I select verify checksum files, another box pops up and says- The folder is empty or does not contain files with the file extension(s) required

I see that there is a subfolder setting for creating checksums but not to verify them

maybe I'm doing something wrong

thanks! :cool:There is no subfolder setting for verifying checksum files via Windows Explorer. Added to the to-do list...

very cool, thanks!

noseshine
2011-08-19, 03:53 PM
Regarding "needs administrator permission to change preferences":

Wait a second - are you guys joking???

This is a security nightmare! NO piece of software needs admin rights today to set user preferences. There are only two reasons why current software would ask you to run it with such elevated rights:

- The programmer does not know a thing about programming on Windows
- The programmer wants to trick you into letting you into YOUR machine as admin - and it is unlikely that their intentions are pure.

BEWARE OF THIS SOFTWARE, it may be dangerous. (or, option 1, the programmer is incompetent to a high degree)

roann
2011-08-20, 04:28 AM
Regarding "needs administrator permission to change preferences":

Wait a second - are you guys joking???

This is a security nightmare! NO piece of software needs admin rights today to set user preferences. There are only two reasons why current software would ask you to run it with such elevated rights:

- The programmer does not know a thing about programming on Windows
- The programmer wants to trick you into letting you into YOUR machine as admin - and it is unlikely that their intentions are pure.

BEWARE OF THIS SOFTWARE, it may be dangerous. (or, option 1, the programmer is incompetent to a high degree)Finally someone who knows which way the wind blows...

Seth01
2011-08-23, 12:32 AM
Finally someone who knows which way the wind blows...

Hahahaha. :D

Noseshine, seriously? You must be joking, right?

This is an amazingly useful piece of software! I really don't know what I'd do without it. Obviously you're not a taper or much of a trader. I use this piece of software pretty much every day. The developer has provided it free of charge and unlike most "free" software, not only does he not ask for anything in return but is EXTREMELY amenable to changes, suggestions and quickly implements them. Development hasn't stopped after a few months either. This is an obvious labour of love and roann is a trusted member of this community. Maybe you ought to hang back a bit or at least do some research before insulting TLH with your first post.

Sheesh, some people. :disbelief

tonebloke
2011-08-23, 04:56 AM
Hahahaha. :D

Noseshine, seriously? You must be joking, right?

This is an amazingly useful piece of software! I really don't know what I'd do without it. Obviously you're not a taper or much of a trader. I use this piece of software pretty much every day. The developer has provided it free of charge and unlike most "free" software, not only does he not ask for anything in return but is EXTREMELY amenable to changes, suggestions and quickly implements them. Development hasn't stopped after a few months either. This is an obvious labour of love and roann is a trusted member of this community. Maybe you ought to hang back a bit or at least do some research before insulting TLH with your first post.

Sheesh, some people. :disbelief


I'll second this statement. For those serious about their audio TLH is indispensable (not casting aspertions on other software) and most, I would say, would rally behind Roann and his little beauty. :wave:

mike1061
2011-08-23, 11:02 PM
Regarding "needs administrator permission to change preferences":

Wait a second - are you guys joking???

This is a security nightmare! NO piece of software needs admin rights today to set user preferences. There are only two reasons why current software would ask you to run it with such elevated rights:

- The programmer does not know a thing about programming on Windows
- The programmer wants to trick you into letting you into YOUR machine as admin - and it is unlikely that their intentions are pure.

BEWARE OF THIS SOFTWARE, it may be dangerous. (or, option 1, the programmer is incompetent to a high degree)

That's just plan stupid. Dumbist thing I've seen in a long time.
Thanks Mike

jabulon
2011-08-24, 07:05 AM
Regarding "needs administrator permission to change preferences":

Wait a second - are you guys joking???

This is a security nightmare! NO piece of software needs admin rights today to set user preferences. There are only two reasons why current software would ask you to run it with such elevated rights:

- The programmer does not know a thing about programming on Windows
- The programmer wants to trick you into letting you into YOUR machine as admin - and it is unlikely that their intentions are pure.

BEWARE OF THIS SOFTWARE, it may be dangerous. (or, option 1, the programmer is incompetent to a high degree)

Thousands (and may be hundreds of) of people are using this nice little app (thanks to the efforts of roann) and you are the first to come along with this specific kind of problem. But if your comment is seriously intended (something I strongly doubt), I would say the problem is on your end of the line (e.g. your PC configuration or some other specific set up). I assume you also checked this nice piece of software with a virusscanner (or multiple virusscanners) and came up with the same results?


BTW: 'very nice first post!'

jabba1969
2011-08-24, 09:27 PM
Regarding "needs administrator permission to change preferences":

Wait a second - are you guys joking???

This is a security nightmare! NO piece of software needs admin rights today to set user preferences. There are only two reasons why current software would ask you to run it with such elevated rights:

- The programmer does not know a thing about programming on Windows
- The programmer wants to trick you into letting you into YOUR machine as admin - and it is unlikely that their intentions are pure.

BEWARE OF THIS SOFTWARE, it may be dangerous. (or, option 1, the programmer is incompetent to a high degree)

Unintentionally hilarious post of the year. :D

RacerX
2011-08-24, 11:41 PM
The developer has provided it free of charge and unlike most "free" software, not only does he not ask for anything in return but is EXTREMELY amenable to changes, suggestions and quickly implements them. Trader's Little Helper acts as a frontend for the free console applications aucdtect.exe, flac.exe, lame.exe, mac.exe, metaflac.exe, mkwcon.exe, shntool.exe, and shorten.exe.

Unidecker
2011-08-25, 06:15 PM
some people just don't know how to say thanks properly to the devz

me i say " THANKS TLH" and eh f*^K the haters

here's some haterade to cool off..


uni-

dactylus
2011-08-27, 12:12 AM
Hello,

I just started getting "range check errors" in Trader's Little Helper today when trying to encode a 24/48 wav file to FLAC. The wav file is 2.25 GB in size. Would the size of the wav file have anything to do with this error? I am 100% sure that I have encoded wav files this size to FLAC in the past.

Could the name of the file be the culprit? The file is named C4_2011-08-24_raw Any suggestions?

I was using an older version of TLH and then upgraded to the newest version today. I received the same error message using both versions. The wav encodes to 100% but does not complete, then the error message occurs over and over and over and over and over... You get the picture. I am running Windows 7 on a fairly powerful new Dell.

Thanks,

David

roann
2011-08-27, 02:44 AM
... I just started getting "range check errors" in Trader's Little Helper today when trying to encode a 24/48 wav file to FLAC. The wav file is 2.25 GB in size. Would the size of the wav file have anything to do with this error? ...Encoding should work with file sizes up to 4 GB (I tested this long time ago when WinXP was the latest Microsoft OS).

... Could the name of the file be the culprit? The file is named C4_2011-08-24_raw ...Encoding should work with a file named C4_2011-08-24_raw (problems may occur if the file name is very long, ie more than 255 characters).

... I was using an older version of TLH and then upgraded to the newest version today. I received the same error message using both versions. The wav encodes to 100% but does not complete, then the error message occurs over and over and over and over and over... It would help to know whether encoding really is at 100% or not. Please encode that wav file again and "kill" TLH when the error message occurs. Then start TLH again and create shntool md5 fingerprints (st5) of the wav file and the encoded flac file. Are the fingerprints the same?

Robert

dactylus
2011-08-27, 10:04 AM
Encoding should work with file sizes up to 4 GB (I tested this long time ago when WinXP was the latest Microsoft OS).

Encoding should work with a file named C4_2011-08-24_raw (problems may occur if the file name is very long, ie more than 255 characters).

It would help to know whether encoding really is at 100% or not. Please encode that wav file again and "kill" TLH when the error message occurs. Then start TLH again and create shntool md5 fingerprints (st5) of the wav file and the encoded flac file. Are the fingerprints the same?

Robert

Thanks for your response Robert. I followed your instructions above and here are the results:

File 'C4_2011-07-23-EQ.flac' is possibly truncated or corrupt
00b0d23b6e9c59a8312652dddef21f48 [shntool] C4_2011-07-23-EQ.wav

There were errors

Once TLH gets to the "100% encoding" of the file the "Range Check Error Box" starts repeating over and over and over on the screen, each time creating a new "TLH range check error box". TLH does NOT display a checksum at this point, it just generates and repeats the "range check error box" ad infinitum. At that point the only way to close TLH is to shut down the machine. It is not possible to close the program normally. This same scenario played out with the same file at least 5 times yesterday.

I am stumped. I have never had any problems with TLH before and I have been using it since it's inception. TLH is an invaluable piece of software and I thank you for creating it and sharing it with us!! :)

Any help in resolving this issue would be appreciated.

Thanks,

David

dactylus
2011-08-27, 11:50 AM
Hello Robert,

I tried the same operation on a different computer and got exactly the same results as above. I had to shut the machine down to stop the generation of "TLH Range Check Error" message boxes.

:hmm:

roann
2011-08-27, 01:14 PM
... I followed your instructions above and here are the results:

File 'C4_2011-07-23-EQ.flac' is possibly truncated or corrupt
00b0d23b6e9c59a8312652dddef21f48 [shntool] C4_2011-07-23-EQ.wav

There were errors

Once TLH gets to the "100% encoding" of the file the "Range Check Error Box" starts repeating over and over and over on the screen, each time creating a new "TLH range check error box". TLH does NOT display a checksum at this point, it just generates and repeats the "range check error box" ad infinitum. At that point the only way to close TLH is to shut down the machine. It is not possible to close the program normally. ...Thanks for your efforts. This error will be hard to track down, I'm afraid. If you have the time please test as follows:

1) Encode the wav file to shn format.
2) Shorten a copy of the wav file to a size smaller than 2 GB and encode to flac format.

I guess encoding to shn format will work and encoding to flac format will fail (again), but who knows...

Robert

Gratefuldan
2011-08-28, 05:16 PM
Hi folks, my name is dan and I'm a techno misfit. This is my first eeting and could use some help with some recently acquired GD, Zero and others shows on a TB hard drive but cant use them as files came to me in SHN and FLAC formats etc...and its cuz I dont know what I'm doing...sorry to say.

I'm looking for a kind soul who can walk me through tapers little helper to help me decompress" or convert my files to audio (wav) files? I have a 160 gb ipod which I find almost useless. (any recommendations for an alternative portable mp3 player would be welcome too)

The traders little helper program files came without a users manual but I'm a quick learner.

Thanks for listening folks!!!

jabulon
2011-08-28, 05:38 PM
http://www.ehow.com/how_6705397_convert-using-trader_s-little-helper.html

foobar2000 (http://www.foobar2000.org/) will play FLAC etc on your PC.

GRC
2011-08-31, 03:36 AM
Go to the Format menu in TLH and select Convert Encoding Format.

It's almost self-explanatory from there. You want to convert FLAC to mp3, then use Add to bring the FLAC files in, and select mp3 as your target format.

Why do you find the iPod useless? Have you got iTunes on your computer?

But, as was said above, you can play FLAC on the computer with Foobar

bullpinjohn
2011-11-26, 01:05 AM
Live recordings, I don't remember. Do you pad them or fix them?
Thanks.

roann
2011-11-27, 06:40 AM
Live recordings, I don't remember. Do you pad them or fix them?
Thanks._fix_

ironfelix
2012-01-11, 07:08 AM
hey, Roann, any chance to see TLH for Mac os one day? I had to move to Mac and now i have no idea what to do without your soft... Thanks

roann
2012-01-11, 09:36 AM
... any chance to see TLH for Mac os one day?...I don't think so, sorry.

... I had to move to Mac and now i have no idea what to do without your soft...Use Scott Brown's xACT (http://xact.scottcbrown.org/).

ironfelix
2012-01-13, 01:46 AM
Use Scott Brown's xACT (http://xact.scottcbrown.org/).

Awesome! thanks a lot!!

cutz
2012-04-14, 06:08 PM
For some reason when i DL TLH, my security says TLH is a threat(ADWARE), and i am unable to use TLH. I've used TLH for years now and NEVER had this problem. Don't you think i should be able to ALLOW it through my security somehow? If so, how can i do that. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I use Webroot.

mike1061
2012-04-14, 06:13 PM
For some reason when i DL TLH, my security says TLH is a threat, and i am unable to use TLH. I've used TLH for years now and NEVER had this problem. Don't you think i should be able to ALLOW it through my security somehow? If so, how can i do that. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I think he's giong to need a little more info than that. Like what OS? What was the error message? What security system blocked it?
Thanks
Mike

tunic
2012-04-15, 02:21 AM
This has come up on Dime's mailing list as well, probably just a false positive. They were using Webroot SecureAnywhere. Complain about it to whatever virusscanner you're using.
As long as you installed TLH from it's own website it should be safe.

cutz
2012-04-15, 01:24 PM
This has come up on Dime's mailing list as well, probably just a false positive. They were using Webroot SecureAnywhere. Complain about it to whatever virusscanner you're using.
As long as you installed TLH from it's own website it should be safe.


Yes, i am using Webroot SecureAnywhere. It's not letting me use TLH at all. I don't know why because i had Webroot on my last computer, and was able to DL and use it with NO problems.

As soon as i go through the wizard set up a pop-up box appears :
webroot has detected w32.adware.mediaget.gen

When i click finish set-up the computer will restart(like it's suppose to), and when the computer comes back on the red TLH Icon is now white. When i click on the white TLH Icon i get this:

The item "tralh.exe" that has this shortcut refers to has been changed or moved, so this shortcut will NO longer work properly. Do you want to delete this shortcut? YES NO



Should i unable the protection to DL & set-up TLH? and then able it after? or will Webroot just delete it anyway?

Apperciate any HELP.

co9ol
2012-04-16, 06:10 AM
I'd suggest you search through webroot's controls, there should be a way to add it to a list of safe programs. Are you on XP vista or 7? If your on 7 you could try installing it by right clicking on the installer file and selecting "run as administrator". That tends to solve a lot of 7 related problems.

kramer73
2012-04-16, 03:54 PM
I've been getting this message when trying to reinstall TLH.

An installation of TLH 2.7.0 already exists on your computer.

The setup wizard will be shut down.

The thing is, I don't have it on the computer. I've searched for it everywhere.

kramer73
2012-04-16, 04:21 PM
I've been getting this message when trying to reinstall TLH.

An installation of TLH 2.7.0 already exists on your computer.

The setup wizard will be shut down.

The thing is, I don't have it on the computer. I've searched for it everywhere.

figured it out myself.

cutz
2012-04-16, 09:15 PM
I'd suggest you search through webroot's controls, there should be a way to add it to a list of safe programs. Are you on XP vista or 7? If your on 7 you could try installing it by right clicking on the installer file and selecting "run as administrator". That tends to solve a lot of 7 related problems.

Yes, i have windows 7. I tried that and i just get the same message.

IF i unable webroot can i able it back on?

I'm thinking if i unable it , and then try to DL & install it will work, but i'm not sure i should unable webroot. But, i NEED TLH.

Thanks for the HELP.

co9ol
2012-04-18, 07:25 PM
it's worth a try, but I have a feeling that as soon as you re-enable webroot it's going to delete TLH first thing. Contact webroot?

cutz
2012-04-18, 09:01 PM
it's worth a try, but I have a feeling that as soon as you re-enable webroot it's going to delete TLH first thing. Contact webroot?

Yea, i think the same thing: it's just going to delete TLH.

cutz
2012-04-21, 09:31 PM
Well, my Hard Drive went on my laptop, but it was replaced with a NEW one(at NO CHARGE, because i just bought it).

I downloaded TLH BEFORE i put the Security in, and that seems to work. So far.

Appreciated the suggestions. Thanks.

trustthex
2012-04-22, 02:24 AM
So, what are the chances of making this a portable app? I know it has several includes, but it would make tracking/encoding shows on the go much easier.

Thanks for all of everyone's work on this fine app!

teanertiner
2012-04-26, 09:28 PM
I found an error when verifying the ffp and md5 files included in a Bill Monroe torrent. Several songs have apostrophes in them, such as "I've Lived A Lot In My Time," for example. When I double click the ffp or md5 file TLH opens as it should. i press verify and it runs throu all the files and verifies the checksum. However, on files with apostrophes in the name it says:


-- snip --
Line 03: file '01 - My Sweet Blue Eyed Darlin.flac' verified ok (checksum matches).
Line 04: file '02 - I’ve Lived A Lot In My Time.flac' does not exist or cannot be opened.
Line 05: file '03 - Bluegrass Breakdown.flac' verified ok (checksum matches).
-- snip --

The flac files play fine and I can see nothing wrong with them. Any idea?

Thanks for the great program.
-teanertiner

trustthex
2012-04-27, 10:22 AM
try running the folder against the actual flac tool in command line, they should verify.

roann
2012-04-27, 11:54 AM
@<hidden>: Are you running the latest release (v2.7.0 build 172)? Upgrade if necessary (http://tlh.easytree.org). If you are on the latest one and the error still occurs please contact me via pm or email.

Coyote2
2012-04-27, 12:27 PM
TLH 2.7.0(172) is working perfectly on one of my XP Pro machines. On the other, even when filesets Verify with their MD5 checksum, a

SHN decode says "No errors" but the Process rows all say "initializing" and no files are created.

FLAC decode fails with the error "file is corrupt, or decoder does not work properly".

Anything I can try please before I un-/re-install?

Coyote2
2012-04-27, 12:49 PM
TLH 2.7.0(172) is working perfectly on one of my XP Pro machines. On the other, even when filesets Verify with their MD5 checksum, a

SHN decode says "No errors" but the Process rows all say "initializing" and no files are created.

FLAC decode fails with the error "file is corrupt, or decoder does not work properly".

Anything I can try please before I un-/re-install?oops, never mind, I just figured out that for some reason Comodo is sandboxing it on that machine and never mentioning that.

glens
2012-05-30, 12:48 AM
Upgrading to the recent release certainly solved the issues for me concerning otherwise 'weird' characters (apostrophes, slashes, arrows, etc) in filenames....

trustthex
2012-05-30, 09:17 PM
So, I tried running TLH and doing some simple operations on a dual 3ghz xeon box w/ 8gb ram (win2k, fully patched), thinking it would fly through the files. It definitely did not, instead pretty much slowing to a crawl, if not hanging the process. Any ideas why?

I haven't installed the actual flac tools from sourceforge, shorten, mdt5sum or mkwact to see how those perform respectively... I will report back.

P A U L
2013-03-24, 03:40 PM
I've gotten this before:

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd340/pariht/tlh-issue_zps8217e22d.png

Where it gets to 100%, but never gives the sucessful green dialogue. As you can see, the file says 0kb on the right (in the folder). The other 2 files were successful. The file not successful is almost 3GB in size. This is left for about an hour, when I screen capped this.

Could this be a case of swapfile space getting overloaded? I don't have a lot of space on C drive, but most things I can change my swapfile parameters. I'm not sure if it's possible in tlh...

I downloaded the latest version, I probably already had it, since the latest seems to be from 2011...

roann
2013-03-25, 08:57 AM
I don't think this has anything to do with the swapfile. Really hard to tell what's going wrong...

Was there enough space on drive V:\? Could you cancel the encoding process via Cancel button, or didn't TLH respond anymore so you had to kill it via Windows Taskmanager?

Are familiar with using the Windows command prompt? If yes, you could test encoding without using TLH to see if it's a TLH issue or something else...

Robert

PS: The lastest TLH release is from May 2011 (v2.7.0.172).

P A U L
2013-03-26, 02:20 PM
Yes, I has 200GB free on drive V. I was able to turn it off, no problem. Yes, that's the version I have - I think it was the one I had previous.

Not sure what you mean about command prompt.

roann
2013-03-27, 06:55 AM
Just created a wav file with a size as big as your master.WAV file on an external USB drive. No problems at all when encoding it to FLAC format (level 8) using TLH. I'd really appreciate it if you could test whether or not encoding works when using the flac encoder directly. Please do as follows:

1) Open Windows Explorer.

2) There is a subfolder CmdlineApps in the installation folder of TLH. Copy the file flac.exe from that subfolder to the folder on drive V where your file master.WAV is located in.

3) Press and hold the Shift key, then right-click on that folder on drive V.

4) A context menu will pop up. Click on Open command window here to open a command prompt window. Release the Shift key.

4) Enter flac -8 "master.WAV", and hit <Return> to start encoding.

5) In the command prompt window the encoding progress will be shown. If everythings is fine you'll get to 100%, and then something like master.WAV: wrote ... bytes, ratio=0,... will be displayed. Else there will be some warning and/or error message(s) - please post a screenshot.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Robert

P A U L
2013-03-29, 12:57 AM
http://i.minus.com/juVI0Ob0YdwxG.png

here's what my media info says:

http://i.minus.com/jb0CJiUZDQS7zh.png

P A U L
2013-03-29, 01:00 AM
You know something strange? I didn't do anything w/ the file & it now says 5GB. IDK why it said 3GB earlier, but, maybe that would be why?

Mitchxx
2013-03-29, 04:16 PM
Does anyone know of a Flac decoder that works with Windows 8? Please let me know

Mitch

tonebloke
2013-03-30, 12:21 AM
Does anyone know of a Flac decoder that works with Windows 8? Please let me know

Mitch


I'm sure Roann will have the next TLH up to date soonish. :thumbsup

Mitchxx
2013-04-01, 10:31 AM
Thanks, please keep everyone posted as far as a program that works on windows 8. I'm dead in the water right now

spidergawd
2013-04-01, 03:11 PM
Does anyone know of a Flac decoder that works with Windows 8? Please let me know

Mitch

Are you able to use the flac program directly?

roann
2013-04-02, 06:17 AM
Does anyone know of a Flac decoder that works with Windows 8? Please let me know

Mitch
What's the problem with TLH on Win 8?

GWT
2013-04-29, 03:36 PM
Hello, I'm new here so I don't know if this is the place to post, but I get the following

In Traders Little Helper there is an error message that comes up saying

" None of the files given has the the file extension(s) required"

And these are 16-44 WAV files

Anybody know what's causing this?

Thanks

mike1061
2013-04-30, 12:07 AM
Would you please what it was you were trying to do, when you get that error. Also how what steps you did before you got the error.
Thanks
Mike

GWT
2013-04-30, 08:18 PM
Yeah, I was trying to fix the SBEs on some 16-44 wave files and that error popped up.

I've done this on hundreds of wave files before but this is the first time I've seen that error before

roann
2013-05-01, 03:07 AM
... In Traders Little Helper there is an error message that comes up saying

" None of the files given has the the file extension(s) required"

And these are 16-44 WAV files...

... I was trying to fix the SBEs on some 16-44 wave files and that error popped up...

You have to provide some more information, otherwise it's really hard to find the place in code that may be buggy.

1) Version of Windows OS?

2) Version of TLH? The latest one is v2.7.0 (build 172). So, if you're using an older release please upgrade and try again.

3) Are you sure your files are in WAV format (sorry, but I have to ask that)? Please go to Analysis > Show audio file details and check/post the process log.

4) How did you add the files to process to the Fix SBEs file list - a) with Add button in Tools > Fix SBEs, or b) via context menu in Windows Explorer, or c) with Fix SBEs button in Analysis > Check audio files for SBEs?

GWT
2013-05-01, 04:59 PM
You have to provide some more information, otherwise it's really hard to find the place in code that may be buggy.

1) Version of Windows OS?Windows 7 Pro 32bit2) Version of TLH? The latest one is v2.7.0 (build 172). So, if you're using an older release please upgrade and try again. That's the one I have
3) Are you sure your files are in WAV format (sorry, but I have to ask that)? Please go to Analysis > Show audio file details and check/post the process log.Yes they are. I also checked each file under Windows properties for the .wav extension which Trader's Little Helper said it couldn't find.4) How did you add the files to process to the Fix SBEs file list - a) with Add button in Tools > Fix SBEs, or b) via context menu in Windows Explorer, or c) with Fix SBEs button in Analysis > Check audio files for SBEs?b) the context menu in Windows Explorer. The GUI comes up with the gray rectangular box and I tick the "Fix SBEs" selection down at the bottom.

roann
2013-05-02, 07:54 AM
Thanks very much for all the info.
...
4) How did you add the files to process to the Fix SBEs file list - a) with Add button in Tools > Fix SBEs, or b) via context menu in Windows Explorer, or c) with Fix SBEs button in Analysis > Check audio files for SBEs?b) the context menu in Windows Explorer. The GUI comes up with the gray rectangular box and I tick the "Fix SBEs" selection down at the bottom.
Please add the files to process with the Add button in Tools > Fix SBEs (no Windows Explorer context menu involved). What happens when you press Fix?

Unidecker
2013-05-02, 10:16 AM
roann rocks so does TLH :)

GWT
2013-05-02, 04:15 PM
Thanks very much for all the info.

Please add the files to process with the Add button in Tools > Fix SBEs (no Windows Explorer context menu involved). What happens when you press Fix?Well it's gonna be a couple of days before I can get back to that machine that has them on there.

Why would that really make any difference? :hmm:

roann
2013-05-03, 11:29 AM
Well it's gonna be a couple of days before I can get back to that machine that has them on there.

Why would that really make any difference? :hmm:
This error message is confusing because I cannot reproduce it on my side. I'd really appreciate it if you could upload the smallest of those files to a place of your choice and pm/email me the download link.

dukem
2013-08-22, 11:52 AM
Hi, I have a strange problem, TLH latest version running on Win Vista Ultimate used to work fine. Now it is running very slow and can take up to 30 minutes to verify an MD5.
Please can you help?

roann
2013-08-23, 07:33 AM
Hi, I have a strange problem, TLH latest version running on Win Vista Ultimate used to work fine. Now it is running very slow and can take up to 30 minutes to verify an MD5.
Please can you help?
Not really, I'm afraid.

Any helpful task manager info? Has anything changed on your system? First I'd try to (completely) uninstall TLH > reboot > new install > reboot - maybe TLH will work fine again.

dukem
2013-08-23, 11:14 AM
OK I'll try that thank you

isotope feeney
2014-01-29, 04:05 PM
It looks lie all the posts I this forum are YEARS old, so I dunno if anyone's listening, but here goes:

I downloaded a torrent, got to 100%. When I went to run md5 in TLH, I got error message:

Checksum file not found in directory.

When I tried to decode FLAC files to see if that would work, I got error messages (one for each line):

file not found in directory.

Nothing else I tried to do in TLH (re-encode FLAC, for instance) would happen either. Same message.

I'm not sure what the version # of TLH is, but when I checked for updates it said You have the latest version... installed.

dasmueller
2014-01-29, 04:14 PM
Do the files play using Winamp ?

mike1061
2014-01-29, 06:05 PM
Sometimes people change the titles of the songs after they made the checksums. It kinda seems like that happened here. What I do is open the check sums in note pad and comapare them to the song titles. Seems odd that all of them would fail for another reason. I've also seen torrents made in other countrys where something like "~" shows up different on my computer. Or where a symbol is different. For example " ' " . Or maybe on mac computer. Just change the file names to match the check sums.
Thanks
Mike

gojikranz
2014-01-30, 01:30 AM
hello I have been happily using traders little helper for years with no major issues. then today i tried to use it and got "error while closing handle(s)" message this happened for anything i have tried to convert today (SHN and Flac).

as far as i know i have not made any big changes to anything so i don't understand why this would happen.

i tried uninstalling and reinstalling to no avail. any ideas?

isotope feeney
2014-01-30, 08:53 AM
Do the files play using Winamp ?

Good point! I don’t have Winamp loaded in to this particular computer, but after yr. question I checked to see if the FLAC files would playback in VLC, which they did. This was only more confusing, because obviously the FLACs were there intact, but TLH for some reason couldn’t ‘see’ them.

But for the rest of the story, see my reply to mike1061 below…

isotope feeney
2014-01-30, 08:58 AM
Sometimes people change the titles of the songs after they made the checksums. It kinda seems like that happened here. What I do is open the check sums in note pad and comapare them to the song titles. Seems odd that all of them would fail for another reason. I've also seen torrents made in other countrys where something like "~" shows up different on my computer. Or where a symbol is different. For example " ' " . Or maybe on mac computer. Just change the file names to match the check sums.
Thanks
Mike

Your suggestion about crosschecking filenames didn’t directly solve the problem, but it led me down the path to a solution, and for that I thank you.

I’ll try to keep this short and sweet (well, short anyway). I know listening to other people’s technoproblems can be like listening to other people’s health problems (or watching other people’s vacation slides) - - - interesting for THEM maybe, but for you not so much. But you might find this interesting…

I took yr. advice and converted md5 into a text file. The filetitles LOOKED identical to the originals, but as you rightly pointed out, ya can’t always tell by looking (it could be something as trivial as a capital period versus a lower case period --- the type of thing you could NEVER tell by looking). (And as you rightly intuited, these torrents were from another country: Germany I think, I don’t always recognize those little flags that tell you where people are from).

Anyhoo, as an experiment I copy-and-pasted a single decoded md5 filetitle over the original title, to see if that would do anything. Same error message: file cannot be found in directory. I then changed the textfile back to md5 (just changed the file extension back). Just to see what would happen, I doubleclicked on the reconverted (md5>text>md5) shortcut, which opened TLH as usual. I clicked on verify, and lo and behold, it functioned. All I got was error messages for each file, which made sense because the md5 that I had converted into text was a COPY of the original, in a separate folder with no other (FLAC) files. I had made a clone of the original because I knew from experience that once I started playing games with it, I’d never be able to remember WTF I had done in case I ever needed to get back to square one to try a different approach.

So anyway, this was progress. Originally when I had clicked on verify, TLH just gave me one single global error message: checksum file cannot be found in directory. Now a least it was LOOKING for the FLAC files. On a hunch, I copy-and-pasted the FLACs from their original folder into this new folder (again I COPIED them and didn’t MOVE them, because in case this didn’t get me where I wanted to go, I wanted to have the original files intact --- as I told dasmueller above, I had already determined that FLACs would at least PLAY in VLC, so I wanted to keep them unharmed for any future experimentation down that road).

So you can see where this is going. Once I had copy of md5 and copies of FLACs in a new folder, I ran md5 in TLH: checksums match, no errors. Then I imported FLACs into TLH: everything decoded, easy as pie.

WHY any of this would work, I have no idea. I didn’t really CHANGE anything, I just copied the original files, as-is, into a new folder. I guess it’s like when your car won’t start, and you start panicking: Now what? Then the next day it starts up like always, and you never have the problem (whatever it was) again. So you stop thinking about it. None of this make any sense, but I got to decode the torrent, so I’m not complaining.

Okay, that whole explanation wasn’t as ‘Readers’ Digest’-y as I intended, but like I said maybe you’ll find it interesting. And I never would’ve got to my moment of triumph without your initial suggestion, so for that I thank you again!

:wave:

Jason

dasmueller
2014-01-30, 09:56 AM
glad you were successful ! interesting as well.

gojikranz
2014-02-02, 11:42 PM
any ideas on my issue?

spidergawd
2014-02-03, 01:13 AM
I took yr. advice and converted md5 into a text file. The filetitles LOOKED identical to the originals, but as you rightly pointed out, ya can’t always tell by looking (it could be something as trivial as a capital period versus a lower case period --- the type of thing you could NEVER tell by looking). (And as you rightly intuited, these torrents were from another country: Germany I think, I don’t always recognize those little flags that tell you where people are from).


You can try looking at the file with a hex editor, sometimes a text file can contain non-printable bytes that md5 software will "think" is part of a file name and therefore be unable to find the file. For example a .md5 file created with MSDOS will often (always?) have a carriage return byte at the end of each line, which will screw up the linux version of md5sum. This probably has nothing to do with what happened in your situation, but still it's a good idea to own a decent hex editor.

JDM111er
2014-02-07, 12:58 PM
A little help please....

I can't seem to find TLH file conversion download. I used it for FLAC conversion to wav but, recently scrubbed my computer and need to download it again.

Thanks in advance:)

jabulon
2014-02-07, 01:04 PM
http://tlh.easytree.org/

gojikranz
2014-02-10, 12:35 AM
no ideas about my issue? is there a different program i can use?

roann
2014-02-10, 03:46 AM
hello I have been happily using traders little helper for years with no major issues. then today i tried to use it and got "error while closing handle(s)" message this happened for anything i have tried to convert today (SHN and Flac).

as far as i know i have not made any big changes to anything so i don't understand why this would happen.

i tried uninstalling and reinstalling to no avail. any ideas?
It's almost impossible to tell what's wrong on your side... some thoughts:


The error while closing handle(s) message often indicates insufficient access rights (multiple users try to access the same file and file open attributes are not set to allow sharing, or the files to be processed with TLH are located in a directory you don't have access rights for (even if you're logged in as an admin), for example).

TLH tries to write to a target directory that you don't have write access to (even if you're logged in as an admin).

Anti-virus and/or firewall program settings have changed.

Windows remembers a lot of things. If you completely uninstall TLH including re-boot, there still might be something in the registry that could cause troubles after you've re-installed TLH.
Only a) if you are really familiar with using the registry and b) if you know what you're doing when tampering with Windows:

Uninstall TLH and re-boot.
Open the Registry Editor and remove entries that hold one of the following programs if and only if the programs are located in the CmdlineApps subfolder of TLH's installation folder:
aucdtect.exe, flac.exe, lame.exe, mac.exe, metaflac.exe, mkwcon.exe, mkwm4.drv, shntool.exe, shorten.exe, tralih.exe.
Close the Registry Editor.
Open Windows Explorer and empty the prefetch folder (a subfolder of the Windows system folder).
Re-boot.
Install TLH to the folder the setup suggests.
Re-boot and try using TLH.



Hope this helps.
Robert

macio
2014-04-13, 06:15 AM
hello, I got a problem: when i'm trying to do anything (Decode/convert) i got this message:
"an Os error occured while executing the DOS subcomponent"
I have tried to uninstall and reinstall THL but it's always the same
I use VISTA and recently i got to reinstall the whole Operating System
Thanks for the attention
Massimo