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Old 2010-08-09, 03:28 PM
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Icon4 TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

One of my master DVDs was uploaded on here a few weeks ago _AGAINST MY WILL_. It clearly states in the DVD menu that I do not wish my DVD to be torrented at all. _NO-ONE ASKED ME FOR PERMISSION TO UPLOAD SAID DVD ON TTD_

Big deal, move around...

Now comes the juicy part though:
Since I filmed, transferred, edited and authored the show I know exactly that there is official songs (actually there's 3 different full length songs) of the Artist in the DVD menu.

I filed a report on July 19th, but the DVD still stays online and to this day still is online on TTD.
Two days later I was told that the issue is being discussed but the preliminary read is that it is going to stay.

My question is: Why is there a rule which doesn't allow official releases to be shared on TTD when you clearly violate said rule TTD staff?

Someone please explain this fauxpas to me.

I hope we can solve this problem in a decent way, because I sure tried to be as polite as possible and offer my constructive criticism.

And remember folks: The tapers and filmers who bust their asses everytime they want to record a show keep places like TTD alive. Without us there wouldn't be such a place.

Thanks for your attention.
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Old 2010-08-09, 03:58 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

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Now comes the juicy part though:
Since I filmed, transferred, edited and authored the show I know exactly that there is official songs (actually there's 3 different full length songs) of the Artist in the DVD menu.
That´s usually no big deal over here, only on Dime as far as I know. Even on Zomb you´ll find DVDs with official songs in the menu, I particulary think of TOOL.
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Old 2010-08-09, 03:59 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

So you violated the copyright law by putting the official released material into the menu, but you want people to respect whatever you wrote on those menus? Oh boy.
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Old 2010-08-09, 04:02 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

There are two issues here:

1. We don't care if a taper doesn't want their stuff torrented. If they don't want it traded, don't trade it out. I'm not going to police and try to figure out who the real taper is, etc. I'm sure you can see the practical impossibility for me know who is who on the internet.

so, WE DON'T CARE IF WE DON'T HAVE YOUR PERMISSION. DON'T GIVE YOUR SHIT TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T TRUSTWORTHY IF YOU DON'T WANT IT TORRENTED. I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE FROM ADAM.

If a SEEDER wants their torrent pulled, that's fine. We know who seeded it.

2. If officially released material is a small portion of an overall project and it is not the express purpose of the torrent to spread officially released material, that is generally allowed. Those are case by case decisions. I'm not sure what the video mod's analysis of this situation was, but evidently they are OK with it. Or forgot about it. One or the other.
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Old 2010-08-09, 04:12 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

FM99 sounds like a guy who does not even eat ribs, let alone enjoy a few Stolis.....Is he looking for quality time with Shmoe? Perhaps that is due
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Old 2010-08-09, 04:20 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

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There are two issues here:

1. We don't care if a taper doesn't want their stuff torrented. If they don't want it traded, don't trade it out. I'm not going to police and try to figure out who the real taper is, etc. I'm sure you can see the practical impossibility for me know who is who on the internet.

so, WE DON'T CARE IF WE DON'T HAVE YOUR PERMISSION. DON'T GIVE YOUR SHIT TO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T TRUSTWORTHY IF YOU DON'T WANT IT TORRENTED. I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE FROM ADAM.

If a SEEDER wants their torrent pulled, that's fine. We know who seeded it.

2. If officially released material is a small portion of an overall project and it is not the express purpose of the torrent to spread officially released material, that is generally allowed. Those are case by case decisions. I'm not sure what the video mod's analysis of this situation was, but evidently they are OK with it. Or forgot about it. One or the other.
It has not been forgotten. I believe you summed it up very well.

Trust me. I know it sucks when something you don't want shared get's posted in public. It has happened to me many times. I have learned through these encounters who is trustworthy, who is not, and that in the end it doesn't matter. Our objectives of this site are to share as much music as possible.
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Old 2010-08-09, 04:22 PM
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So you violated the copyright law by putting the official released material into the menu, but you want people to respect whatever you wrote on those menus? Oh boy.
the dvd was uncirculated, before it was uploaded here.
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Old 2010-08-09, 04:23 PM
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the dvd was uncirculated, before it was uploaded here.
Well actually, no, it was not uncirculated. It was not widely or openly circulated.
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Old 2010-08-09, 04:24 PM
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Well actually, no, it was not uncirculated. It was not widely circulated.
trust me, it was really uncirculated before it got on here.
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Old 2010-08-09, 04:26 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

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trust me, it was really uncirculated before it got on here.

So how was it torrented if you had the only copy? Magic?
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Old 2010-08-09, 04:28 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

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2. If officially released material is a small portion of an overall project and it is not the express purpose of the torrent to spread officially released material, that is generally allowed. Those are case by case decisions. I'm not sure what the video mod's analysis of this situation was, but evidently they are OK with it. Or forgot about it. One or the other.
Go ahead and please include this in the rules then, because the current version doesn't imply what you just wrote.
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Old 2010-08-09, 04:33 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

No, we are not going to make the rules here like the Halakha.
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Old 2010-08-09, 04:40 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

Alright then, I guess you have every right to do so.
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Old 2010-08-09, 05:32 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

what dvd is it?

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Old 2010-08-09, 05:41 PM
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trust me, it was really uncirculated before it got on here.
So how did the uploader get a copy? I really want to know cause there's a
couple of shows I want to get my hands on that aren't circulating.......
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