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Old 2009-07-24, 05:26 AM
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Question BBC iPlayer Captures. Allowed or not?

Hi all,

Am I right in assuming that an audio capture from BBC iPlayer (streaming audio or 'listen live') is a lossy format and therefore not allowed here?

From what I can gather, the BBC seems to be streamed at a bitrate of 128 kbps and uses the AAC+ codec.

To my ears, such streams can sound at least as good as the 'live' FM equivalent (better in many cases because they are free from broadcast interference and breaks in transmission / reception).

So, before I post my Radio 2 show, can you confirm whether of not this will be allowed?

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Old 2009-07-24, 10:46 AM
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Re: BBC iPlayer Captures. Allowed or not?

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Re: BBC iPlayer Captures. Allowed or not?

Yes, that's what I thought and thanks for the clarification. I fully understand (and agree with) the policy on this but I guess I find it a little strange that had I captured the direct FM radio broadcast I would have been allowed to share it, even though the pre-broadcast source would have been recorded and/or compressed to a lossy format before going out on air...
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Old 2009-07-25, 10:15 AM
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Re: BBC iPlayer Captures. Allowed or not?

What's the source info for the assertion that the FM broadcasts are "recorded and/or compressed to a lossy format before going out on air... "
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