The Traders' Den  

  The Traders' Den > Where we go to learn ..... > Technobabble
 

Notices

Technobabble Post your general Need for Help questions here.
Lossy or Lossless?
Moderators

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 2008-10-02, 02:13 AM
gogglegurf gogglegurf is offline
0.00 KB/0.00 KB/---
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Washington State, USA
PAL To NTSC?

Could anybody shed light to this curiosity. I've noticed with a few of my trades that I receive that the picture will have slight pauses consistently throughout the entire disc. The audio is fine and the pic doesn't do this on my PC or little portable. I'm wondering if a show that is converted from PAL to NTSC might cause this since I'm thinking these shows (Rockaplast) may have been converted. A show that I converted is the only other one that has these video "stutters."

I am not too "techy" and I don't want to pass a problem along if they are indeed flawed. With verify on ImgBurb, I get no errors.

Thanks for any enlightening feedback!
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #2  
Old 2008-10-02, 10:05 AM
direwolf-pgh's Avatar
direwolf-pgh direwolf-pgh is offline
On the Beach
666.18 GB/1.29 TB/1.99
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: down in the basement
Re: PAL To NTSC?

the only time I've seen a slight pause is when a DL disc is switching layers.

you dont really have any specific info in that post to work with.

i dont believe it was an encoding issue - as they have more a vid/aud sync issue.
-not to mention that re-encoded are not shared here & many in the thread would report such an issue.

sorry buddy - its on your end.

you can tell us more about the discs used, software used, player used - and we can shoot more arrows at the target.
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #3  
Old 2008-10-02, 10:40 AM
U2Lynne's Avatar
U2Lynne U2Lynne is offline
TTD Staff
471.57 GB/2.01 TB/4.37
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: California
Re: PAL To NTSC?

I think I know the stutters you are talking about. I would think that a Rockpalast show should be in PAL. It is a German show, so most likely recorded over in Europe and they use PAL.
__________________
Five's Checksums Demystified - everything and anything you want to know about checksums
On a Mac? Get XLD to rip your CDs. Please see this guide - X Lossless Decoder (XLD): How to create flawless CD rips on Mac OS X

TTD GoFundMe Campaign

Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #4  
Old 2008-10-02, 01:34 PM
ijwthstd ijwthstd is offline
TTD VIP
1.03 TB/2.80 TB/2.73
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Re: PAL To NTSC?

I've seen that on some that were standalone recorded. The audio is fine but the pictures glitches every once in awhile.
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #5  
Old 2008-10-02, 01:41 PM
dementrium's Avatar
dementrium dementrium is offline
433.71 GB/433.00 GB/1.00
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Re: PAL To NTSC?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gogglegurf View Post
Could anybody shed light to this curiosity. I've noticed with a few of my trades that I receive that the picture will have slight pauses consistently throughout the entire disc.
Are those glitches at every second or so? If yes, it looks like they 'converted' PAL to NSTC using the so-called 'IFOedit hack'.
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #6  
Old 2008-10-02, 04:17 PM
gogglegurf gogglegurf is offline
0.00 KB/0.00 KB/---
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Washington State, USA
Re: PAL To NTSC?

Thanks for the responses. Yes, I picked these trades up from a snail mail trade. My guess is that they were converted to NTSC from PAL. It's interesting on one disc the Rockaplast show does that little "stutter" every second throughout (it's like a frame sticks for a split second-the pic remains perfectly clear). However, on the same disc there is a bonus show from The Midnight Special that does not exhibit the problem.

Can there be problems for NTSC playback if the disc is converted from PAL?

Thanks for taking the time for your thoughts!

Brian
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #7  
Old 2008-10-02, 04:52 PM
daddyray's Avatar
daddyray daddyray is offline
wanna buy me a drink????
1.32 TB/1.80 TB/1.36
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: serenity
Re: PAL To NTSC?

I've had a few of this glitches when playing things in VLC. I still don't burn DVDs. I have dl'ed stuff from the best uploaders (rory g, vlad) and here and there one goes awry. I've even re downloaded one or two piece trying to fix that. It has been suggested to me once burnt they will play fine. So the things I've gotten were NOT converted and they were skippy. I have lots of other things to watch so I've left it be. No one has suggested I've polluted the dl's so I haven't had "the poison seed."
good luck.
__________________
"We're here to have a ball." Art Blakey
"Reality is a hallucination brought on by lack of alcohol." Graham Chapman
"I'll drink to your health til it ruins mine" Art Blakey
"Trust a pro" Keith Richards
"here is my offer: nothing" Mike C
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #8  
Old 2008-10-02, 06:25 PM
pawel's Avatar
pawel pawel is offline
Lockout here
370.16 GB/672.37 GB/1.82
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Poland
Re: PAL To NTSC?

Check disc with Gspot if it's really NTSC, and not hacked ifo one.

If it is NTSC, the issue can be due poor encoder used for conversion.
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #9  
Old 2008-10-03, 12:09 AM
gogglegurf gogglegurf is offline
0.00 KB/0.00 KB/---
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Washington State, USA
Re: PAL To NTSC?

Thanks pawal and everyone else. Used Gspot and it looks like these discs are PAL. I'm suprised they actually play at all on my NTSC player. Must have some type of conversion but they still show 25 frames per second and PAL.
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
Reply

The Traders' Den > Where we go to learn ..... > Technobabble


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forums


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:45 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - , TheTradersDen.org - All Rights Reserved - Hosted at QuickPacket
no new posts