The Traders' Den  

  The Traders' Den > Where we go to learn ..... > Technobabble
 

Notices

Technobabble Post your general Need for Help questions here.
Lossy or Lossless?
Moderators

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 2008-05-10, 02:12 PM
david68 david68 is offline
293.72 GB/30.07 GB/0.10
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Question Kinda of a Newbie ,needs advice

Well I found this site about 6 months ago. Well to say the least it has become an addiction. So with that thank you all for all you effort of the great music you have shared.

So now I have a couple of hundred data dvd's.I just purchased a Seagate 500 GB external HD.I plan on backing up my files to that .I will still have everything on DVD to. Has anyone had any problems with seagate products?

Now I have noticed that many people post and ask you not to convert to MP3. I was wondring why.Does it decrease the quality.

Also I was thinking of byeing the Ipod that has the biggest storage. Will they play FLAC and other formats.If not what would you suggest?

Finally,,,I have had pretty good luck with my DVD's. I burn and then store them. However I have read in the forums that they do make a difference. I dont buy the cheapest.But what brands would you all suggest.

Once again thanks for you help. Any suggestions will be much appreaciated.

Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #2  
Old 2008-05-10, 02:34 PM
U2Lynne's Avatar
U2Lynne U2Lynne is offline
TTD Staff
471.57 GB/2.01 TB/4.37
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: California
Re: Kinda of a Newbie ,needs advice

Converting to mp3 definitely decreases the quality. The audio files you download here - flac, shn, ape - are *lossless* audio files. Whereas mp3 are lossy. In order to make the files small, they get rid of a bunch of the sound they figure people won't miss much. And, you probably won't miss it listening to the stuff on your iPod. But, you will definitely miss it when listening to your shows on a home stereo system. What you really don't want to do is convert to mp3 and then share those files. You should keep all your downloaded flac/shn/ape files saved on whatever media you choose and then if you want to share the show with someone, share those original files.

iPods will not play flac. There is a third party application you can install on your iPod called Rockbox and if you install that, then you may play flac files. iPods will play wav/aiff files which are what you convert to when you decompress the flac files.
__________________
Five's Checksums Demystified - everything and anything you want to know about checksums
On a Mac? Get XLD to rip your CDs. Please see this guide - X Lossless Decoder (XLD): How to create flawless CD rips on Mac OS X

TTD GoFundMe Campaign

Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #3  
Old 2008-05-10, 03:06 PM
david68 david68 is offline
293.72 GB/30.07 GB/0.10
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Re: Kinda of a Newbie ,needs advice

WOW...Ok thanks for you help..I have burnt everything on its its orginal format.Thanks for your help.
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #4  
Old 2008-05-11, 04:36 AM
jamroom's Avatar
jamroom jamroom is offline
81.11 GB/305.06 GB/3.76
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Re: Kinda of a Newbie ,needs advice

External hard drives. For every online (justified) complaint about a hdd failing, there will be hundreds of people happily storing stuff without any problems. Seagate is one of the bigger names in hdds, so I'm sure you have made a good choice.

blank media - I'm sure there must be a couple of threads on the subject on here if you do a search. A lot of folks swear by Taiyo Yuden discs as one of the best.

As Lynne pointed out, when dealing with live shows, mp3 should be for personal use only - please trade the original format. You cannot replace the lost data when changing back from mp3 to wav, which a few unscrupulous folks do. Thankfully, lossy shows get picked up quickly if seeded on here.
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #5  
Old 2008-05-11, 02:51 PM
dorrcoq's Avatar
dorrcoq dorrcoq is offline
Champion of the Silent
TTD VIP
624.37 GB/1.88 TB/3.08
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Re: Kinda of a Newbie ,needs advice

Nice ratio
__________________
how can I obey the rule about no sexually explicit posts after seeing Lynne's back?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rider
I think Gray has all these grand plans and I'm sorry to bring it up when it came down to it he couldn't even sell t-shirts without fucking it up.

"please mind your own fucking business, you Looney cocksucker" - Freezer, 7/12/06
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #6  
Old 2008-05-11, 09:45 PM
david68 david68 is offline
293.72 GB/30.07 GB/0.10
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Re: Kinda of a Newbie ,needs advice

RAtio ????? What do you mean ?
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #7  
Old 2008-05-12, 12:11 AM
U2Lynne's Avatar
U2Lynne U2Lynne is offline
TTD Staff
471.57 GB/2.01 TB/4.37
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: California
Re: Kinda of a Newbie ,needs advice

Quote:
Originally Posted by david68 View Post
RAtio ????? What do you mean ?
Your ratio:
117.36 GB/16.33 GB/0.14
That is about 118GB that you have downloaded and only 16GB you have uploaded. That gives you a ratio of 0.14. You should strive to give back as much as you take, which would be a ratio of 1.0.
__________________
Five's Checksums Demystified - everything and anything you want to know about checksums
On a Mac? Get XLD to rip your CDs. Please see this guide - X Lossless Decoder (XLD): How to create flawless CD rips on Mac OS X

TTD GoFundMe Campaign

Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #8  
Old 2008-05-12, 02:25 PM
Five's Avatar
Five Five is offline
TTD Staff
186.65 GB/588.32 GB/3.15
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Canada
Re: Kinda of a Newbie ,needs advice

Quote:
Originally Posted by david68 View Post
Also I was thinking of byeing the Ipod that has the biggest storage. Will they play FLAC and other formats.If not what would you suggest?
rockbox.org works great

almost all except the very most recent models are supported. you can just put your dowloads on your iPod and play them back, no iTunes or similar necessary.
__________________
Checksums Demystified EAC Config MakeTorrent WinAmp Config

Modern social theory casts a highly skeptical eye on any declaration that a group of persons is without conflict, and insists, on the contrary, that conflict is natural to groups, and even more, is essential to them. -Patrick Henry
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #9  
Old 2008-05-12, 03:31 PM
dorrcoq's Avatar
dorrcoq dorrcoq is offline
Champion of the Silent
TTD VIP
624.37 GB/1.88 TB/3.08
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Re: Kinda of a Newbie ,needs advice

Quote:
Originally Posted by david68 View Post
RAtio ????? What do you mean ?
Yeah, denial works
__________________
how can I obey the rule about no sexually explicit posts after seeing Lynne's back?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rider
I think Gray has all these grand plans and I'm sorry to bring it up when it came down to it he couldn't even sell t-shirts without fucking it up.

"please mind your own fucking business, you Looney cocksucker" - Freezer, 7/12/06
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #10  
Old 2008-05-17, 03:39 PM
david68 david68 is offline
293.72 GB/30.07 GB/0.10
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Re: Kinda of a Newbie ,needs advice

Ratio..Sorry.I will improve.Is it normal to get like 3 and 6 kbs uploade.Because it seems like it downloads faster than it shares.I t may be my connection to.NOW I HAVE GUILT
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
Reply

The Traders' Den > Where we go to learn ..... > Technobabble


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forums


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:23 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - , TheTradersDen.org - All Rights Reserved - Hosted at QuickPacket
no new posts