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Old 2008-04-14, 12:17 PM
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Unhappy Audio Blogs--->TTD Shows

Hey all,

This site has done me kindly by making great music available that I may not have heard or being able to find & afford. I have upp'd a few things here myself and so have alot of others. I LOVE sharing and I am happy when people share your stuff in the format that they received it in as well.

Over the last few months I was turned on to audio blogs where folks share what they have without ratio or sign up requirements. I found one site in particular that shares lossless shows, some from here, and doesn't give credit to the original uploader while people thank the owner of the blog for the rips like they did them and not those of you who ripped live vinyl, transferred WW1 or KBFH CD's, taped shows, and what not.

Sharing is one thing but giving credit to people who actually did the work IS part of that.

Here's the link, you decide. I realize that the bands own the music as they created the tunes but their fans help propagate the support by recognizing the bands they love....the fans deserve some credit too.

http://qualityboots.blogspot.com/
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Old 2008-04-14, 01:16 PM
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Re: Audio Blogs--->TTD Shows

Wow. He basically downloads the show from here (or Dime or somewhere similar) and then puts up the exact text file and the artwork. It would be really nice if he would give credit to the original uploader. One thing I do have to give him credit for is that he is sharing the shows in their original flac format. I looked at a few comments and people are asking for mp3, but it looks like he is sticking to lossless, which is great.
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Old 2008-04-14, 02:14 PM
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Re: Audio Blogs--->TTD Shows

the original uploader doesn't always want to be credited, and often the uploader to TTD is not the person who created the files fwiw. I'm just glad he's not making everything mp3.

if he's putting stuff on his blog that you uploaded and you want a credit, just email him and ask.
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Old 2008-04-14, 03:03 PM
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I realise that not all uploaders want the credit but this person doesn't even bother trying. I found one of my own uploads there, the recent Fixx BBC vinyl rip that I did, and put my own credit as someone was thanking them for the "rip".

I give credit for the lossless files...as I did in my comment there but it would seem to me that he does do mp3 conversions over at this link.....

http://www.guitars101.com/forums/member.php?u=32894

...where of course they say they don't respond to pm's....I wonder why.



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Here is the users upload list there...some in FLAC, alot in mp3....

http://www.guitars101.com/forums/sea...earchid=282983
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Re: Audio Blogs--->TTD Shows

you really sound stressed over this Jetrell69.
So you ripped an old Fixx LP and uploaded to the internet.. (at multiple sites)
now you wish personal recognition and intellectual property rights on it - everywhere it travels ?
good luck with that.

id give you a little gold star for the effort, but I dont have any.
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Old 2008-04-14, 03:50 PM
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Hey all,

This site has done me kindly by making great music available that I may not have heard or being able to find & afford. I have upp'd a few things here myself and so have alot of others. I LOVE sharing and I am happy when people share your stuff in the format that they received it in as well.

Over the last few months I was turned on to audio blogs where folks share what they have without ratio or sign up requirements. I found one site in particular that shares lossless shows, some from here, and doesn't give credit to the original uploader while people thank the owner of the blog for the rips like they did them and not those of you who ripped live vinyl, transferred WW1 or KBFH CD's, taped shows, and what not.

Sharing is one thing but giving credit to people who actually did the work IS part of that.

Here's the link, you decide. I realize that the bands own the music as they created the tunes but their fans help propagate the support by recognizing the bands they love....the fans deserve some credit too.

http://qualityboots.blogspot.com/


I dunno, I looked at one item that interested me and I found the credit for the taper...... as if that means anything any more......

http://qualityboots.blogspot.com/200...3-6cd-set.html










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Old 2008-04-14, 03:59 PM
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you really sound stressed over this Jetrell69.
So you ripped an old Fixx LP and uploaded to the internet.. (at multiple sites)
now you wish personal recognition and intellectual property rights on it - everywhere it travels ?
good luck with that.

id give you a little gold star for the effort, but I dont have any.

Where you read anything about wanting "intellectual property rights" to something that doesn't belong to me except the vinyl is beyond me....I believe that it's great they're sharing in the original format but a nod to folks who took the time to actually do the work of vinyl ripping would be nice....I offered it at two sites, here and DaD. I will live either way....but yes, I do believe that it should at least be mentioned....my artwork for it reflects thanks to the band and all associated, do you find that out of line for a gold star too? When you download a show do you thank just the uploader or do you actually nod at the seeders helping you to get it? They could use a gold star too....participation and mutual respect...they do alot more for sharing than you seem willing to give credit for.

Flame away if you must.....it's your right and I don't expect you to subscribe to my personal opinion...I just expect a little bit of courtesy as does everyone else who posts...please remember that much at least.
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Old 2008-04-14, 04:01 PM
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Hey all,

This site has done me kindly by making great music available that I may not have heard or being able to find & afford. I have upp'd a few things here myself and so have alot of others. I LOVE sharing and I am happy when people share your stuff in the format that they received it in as well.

Over the last few months I was turned on to audio blogs where folks share what they have without ratio or sign up requirements. I found one site in particular that shares lossless shows, some from here, and doesn't give credit to the original uploader while people thank the owner of the blog for the rips like they did them and not those of you who ripped live vinyl, transferred WW1 or KBFH CD's, taped shows, and what not.

Sharing is one thing but giving credit to people who actually did the work IS part of that.

Here's the link, you decide. I realize that the bands own the music as they created the tunes but their fans help propagate the support by recognizing the bands they love....the fans deserve some credit too.

http://qualityboots.blogspot.com/


I dunno, I looked at one item that interested me and I found the credit for the taper...... as if that means anything any more......

http://qualityboots.blogspot.com/200...3-6cd-set.html



That is part of the Nfo file being posted...otherwise you probably wouldn't see it. They at least save those as well....another plus.
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Old 2008-04-14, 04:21 PM
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Where you read anything about wanting "intellectual property rights" to something that doesn't belong to me except the vinyl is beyond me....I believe that it's great they're sharing in the original format but a nod to folks who took the time to actually do the work of vinyl ripping would be nice....I offered it at two sites, here and DaD. I will live either way....but yes, I do believe that it should at least be mentioned....my artwork for it reflects thanks to the band and all associated, do you find that out of line for a gold star too? When you download a show do you thank just the uploader or do you actually nod at the seeders helping you to get it? They could use a gold star too....participation and mutual respect...they do alot more for sharing than you seem willing to give credit for.

Flame away if you must.....it's your right and I don't expect you to subscribe to my personal opinion...I just expect a little bit of courtesy as does everyone else who posts...please remember that much at least.
I dont think you deserve anything. that is my opinion.

but thanks all the same. it was very kind of you to make the effort to share out an LP you had.

just dont get whiny about it or expect me to care much.
if it helps any.. I will always remember that you ripped that Fixx album
feel better ?
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Old 2008-04-14, 04:27 PM
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I dunno, I looked at one item that interested me and I found the credit for the taper...... as if that means anything any more......

http://qualityboots.blogspot.com/200...3-6cd-set.html



That is part of the Nfo file being posted...otherwise you probably wouldn't see it. They at least save those as well....another plus.
So put your name all over the Nfo file (I assume that must mean the information file) and maybe that should solve your need for getting some credit.


However, what you see is one more instance of proper lineage being cast aside, welcome to the new world of internet music collecting, Jetrell69.

No reason to get upset, it's just another site catering to quantity over quality.

No matter what the name of that site......






"Quality Boots"...........
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Old 2008-04-14, 04:33 PM
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Re: Audio Blogs--->TTD Shows

May we get a close to this thread.....I had hoped it wouldn't turn into a "flame" thread but I over-estimated that it wouldn't.

Thanks
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Old 2008-04-14, 04:35 PM
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Re: Audio Blogs--->TTD Shows

I did leave a remark, Jetrell, simply stating that I think it would be nice if the person putting the shows up would give credit to the original uploaders. I do think that is the polite thing to do anywhere. (However, I'll admit that I don't always remember, but if it's in the text file, then I do.) I think that is all we can really ask for. Don't forget that the main target of sites like these is to Share The Music. That is the goal. And he is doing that.


Let's keep this on track and not end up with the same old bullshit from so many other threads or the thread will get closed.
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Old 2008-04-14, 04:47 PM
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.................. Don't forget that the main target of sites like these is to Share The Music. That is the goal. And he is doing that.


Let's keep this on track and not end up with the same old bullshit from so many other threads or the thread will get closed.
Many collectors think that along with "sharing the music" that "sharing the correct information" is absolutely necessary.

If that had been properly done at "Quality Boots", I suspect Jetrell69 wouldn't have felt the need to start this thread.




"Quality Boots" =
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Old 2008-04-14, 04:53 PM
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Correct information does lead to better sharing as it keeps the lineage of the shows posted as up to date as possible....I am not looking for "actual" thanks...just that, when there is a transfer like this where someone has done a clean upgrade or something from their collection that took effort to do like cleaning, recording, track splitting & other minute details that enhance a share that the user is properly mentioned as the originator (I guess) when posted elsewhere.

Lynne, I have come to know you fairly well....I know you support me and the site...neither you or Five were being blamed for the quick downward slide this thread took.
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Old 2008-04-14, 05:06 PM
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Re: Audio Blogs--->TTD Shows

its such a small issue & one you KNOW you cant correct it
I dont see why you decided to make it an issue here and in the thread of your original seed & at that site.. and who know where else
maybe the original torrent site should get credit as well.. etc..etc.

its whatever man - thats my point (if there is one to be made)
and EVERYBODY has ripped and seeded & yes they move across the net with changes sometimes
just dont feel like you're the only one.
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