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  #16  
Old 2008-02-03, 02:33 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

Thank for all the answers. Sorry, I was out of home in the weekend, so I didn't replay the posts, let me explain some uncertainties expresed above:
_ I didn't post a window of the utorrent as was asked by U2Lynne cause when he asked that to me at the next day, the download was finished, no more leechers to show in the window, only the TTD seeders, so at list I wanted to show the BC post.
_ Enable DHT and Share with peers were both enabled in this torrent when the problem raised.
_ I don't care about the ratio, mine is good because I share a lot.
_ I didn't put both trackers in the properties of this torrent, I'm not jocking, is only a technical desire to learn about what happened.

I think that the same way as there is hash value for the files, maybe is the same for the whole torrent (I don't know yet).

When the tracker is down , with DHT enabled, you can share with others peers, no need for the tracker server, your client looks in the internet for other torrent like yours ( maybe looking for a hash value? )
When this happens, you have the X flag for the peers connected to you, meaning it was made with DHT, not with the tracker.
End of my knolewedge...
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Old 2008-02-05, 09:08 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

Today I see 0(6) seeders , and TTD shows only 2



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Old 2008-02-05, 09:26 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

right click that torrent > select Properties

take a look at the trackers for that torrent
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Old 2008-02-05, 09:51 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

It's only one tracker, the TTD http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...hp?passkey=abc...................
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Old 2008-02-05, 09:54 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

Excuse me for hijacking again.

I'm trying right now what has been discussing before RE: putting multiple trackers in the properties window. Currently, doing it with one seed completed from Dime. Added the announce for TTD. It worked!
The best part is that the client reports the total uploaded amount to both trackers, regardless where the peers come from.

It's funny because I have 0 peers from Dime, but their page reports the amount I'm uploading to 3 peers here.

The question is, how dishonest is to do this?
But the most important question is, can they (or you) detect this action?

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_ I didn't put both trackers in the properties of this torrent, I'm not jocking, is only a technical desire to learn about what happened.
Pancho, whenever you have technical desires, you can't go wrong with U2Lynne!
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Old 2008-02-05, 09:58 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

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It's only one tracker, the TTD http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...hp?passkey=abc...................
EDIT: Just noted you were careful. Sorry.

Last edited by dementrium; 2008-02-05 at 10:05 PM.
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Old 2008-02-05, 10:03 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

i have this show & just jumped on.

at first my client showed 10 seeds & 3 leechers

right click torrent > advanced > Clear Peer List

now im showing 3 seeders & 1 leech

now its showing 2 seeders & 2 leechers.. something is up with this metafile

*but Im not connecting with them (which is good cause they arent on this site)

one leech ip is: 64.16.229.23

this is weird - the seeder and leecher # are changing all around Im disconnecting.

Last edited by direwolf-pgh; 2008-02-05 at 10:12 PM.
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Old 2008-02-05, 10:10 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

THANKS direwolf-pgh's !! now somebody else could see it..

I'm connected to 0(4) seeders and 1 leecher, he downloaded from me 6.76 MBytes..

also he is 64.16.229.23:31259
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Old 2008-02-05, 10:22 PM
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Old 2008-02-05, 10:32 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

seeders are correct now

still have that one leecher mentioned above

perhaps we should stop seeding on this torrent - wait 15 then reseed
the rouge leech should fall out of the swarm then. (my swag anyway)
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Old 2008-02-05, 10:42 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

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seeders are correct now

still have that one leecher mentioned above

perhaps we should stop seeding on this torrent - wait 15 then reseed
the rouge leech should fall out of the swarm then. (my swag anyway)
Thanks for your help to clarify this..!,
scuse my bad english, but in the aspect of who is downloading my file I dont really care, is jimi music, and is good to spread it in everyway..
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Old 2008-02-05, 11:12 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

Is this the same one on Tapecity? http://www.tapecity.org/showthread.p...highlight=jimi (I would guess so since it says right in the notes that he got it from here.) They show 9 seeders and 0 leechers right now - although there are 14 seeders and 0 leechers on their Peers List (which has always frustrated me and is a big reason why I don't want to switch to that tracker). And here's the one here which shows 2 seeders and 0 leechers: http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...highlight=jimi The big question is.... who is this one leecher you guys are seeing?

edit: I now see you on the TC tracker, Mr. Wolf.
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Old 2008-02-05, 11:13 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

agree.
and thank you pancho.

this provokes some interesting thoughts.

lynne the shows md5/files are identical - same seed/show
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Old 2008-02-05, 11:20 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

I just downloaded the torrent from tapecity

utorrent asked if I wish to add the tracker.

now Im connected to both sites - which would connect and bridge both swarms.

someone else must have done this as well.
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Old 2008-02-05, 11:26 PM
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Re: The tracker doesn't show leechers for this torrent..SOLVED !!! (tech explanation please..)

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I just downloaded the torrent from tapecity

utorrent asked if I wish to add the tracker.

now Im connected to both sites - which would connect and bridge both swarms.

someone else must have done this as well.
I wonder if that is what had to happen initially - just one person to say OK to combining it. I can't imagine that the same torrent on two different sites would somehow 'find' each other without some connection like what you just did. Otherwise, as I said before, we would see this sort of things a LOT more often.
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