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Old 2005-03-10, 10:26 PM
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Re: I retracked a show!

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Boo at me all you want but I track flawlessly the cheap way--take the wave file, make a .cue sheet and then burn it directly to CD as an image. Do not cut before that.

Every time, it's been flawless. I realize it adds a CD generation but I ain't paying for CDWave and I don't know of another free program that can track flawlessly, pre-CD burn.
It is possible to do with Audacity and/or FLAC frontend... I'll have to write up a visual guide for this because it's slightly tricky.

It is my understanding that CDWave is not free software, it just doesn't disable itself if you never register.
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Old 2005-03-12, 10:40 AM
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Re: I retracked a show!

Another thing you can do, and I'm not sure if it's allowed here, is to encode the big .wav file as a FLAC if you want to spread it, and just provide the .cue sheet in the torrent. That way you're not adding a CDR generation for archiving purposes.
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Old 2005-03-12, 11:09 AM
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It is my understanding that CDWave is not free software, it just doesn't disable itself if you never register.

you are correct...
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Old 2005-03-12, 12:50 PM
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Re: I retracked a show!

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Boo at me all you want but I track flawlessly the cheap way--take the wave file, make a .cue sheet and then burn it directly to CD as an image. Do not cut before that.

Every time, it's been flawless. I realize it adds a CD generation but I ain't paying for CDWave and I don't know of another free program that can track flawlessly, pre-CD burn.
What are you talking about??
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Old 2005-03-12, 01:01 PM
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Boo at me all you want...
We're not booing, we're yelling "Lou, Lou!"
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Old 2005-03-12, 01:08 PM
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Another thing you can do, and I'm not sure if it's allowed here, is to encode the big .wav file as a FLAC if you want to spread it, and just provide the .cue sheet in the torrent. That way you're not adding a CDR generation for archiving purposes.
Tracking the show doesn't add a CDR generation, nor does archiving in flac format. I don't understand the benefit of doing what you mentioned. It seems like it would just confuse people. See? It's starting already. -->

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Old 2005-03-12, 05:09 PM
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Re: I retracked a show!

Lou, post some more, between the lot of us we can find a way for you to track without adding a cdr generation...
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Old 2005-03-16, 04:46 PM
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Re: I retracked a show!

OK here's what I've been doing:

I've gotten a lot of tapes recently that I'm converting using my new $300 Sony Standalone burner (off the top of my head I think the model number is RCD-W500C). I was lent a Sony tape deck, model number TC-WE635 I believe. I've been doing all tape transfers this way.

I have not been tracking using the standalone for a couple of reasons. A) you have to guess when to insert a track marker if you want to have the songs start right away with each track. B) there are gaps in the tapes which I'd like to edit out, and at times the tapes have been copied such that you can make a nice splice so that a song doesn't start and fade out, and then re-start up again. This takes place generally when the show was taped on a 110 minute tape, but then later copied onto 90 minute tapes.

So then what I do is I rip the big-ass wave files from my music CD's (which BTW, you have to buy special music CD's for standalones that cost more) onto the computer and edit out the gaps, do the splices and prepare for tracking. Since I don't know how to cut the .wav file on the hard drive without the risk of introducing SBE's, what I do is I burn the .wav file directly to CD as an image. I take a .cue sheet, mark out where I want the tracks to be split, and I don't cut it on the PC. It gets cut on my new CDR that I just burned.

Therein lies the rub. By doing this, I add another CDR generation. I already have my original CDR generation from the music CD I burned on the standalone. Now I'm adding another one because the only way I know how to track flawlessly is to burn right to CD. Thus if I want to spread it, I'll have to re-rip from that second CDR. But it's the only way I know to do this and get flawless track transitions.

I don't want to buy any software. I don't know how to split the .wav file before burning to CD and ensure that it comes out fine. I've tried splitting a wave file, WITH A CUE SHEET, on the pc, and yet there STILL seems to be one or two track transitions that are fucked up. I don't understand why this would happen because I'm using a .cue sheet, but it still happens. It seems the only foolproof way to track, without using CDWave, is to track via burning to another CDR.

So can anyone guide me through a free wave cutting program that's 100% effective in cutting the wave and never introducing SBE's?

This is what I was talking about when I postulated that if I want to spread something without going through another CDR solely for the purpose of ensuring flawless track transitions, I could just spread the big wave file and throw in a .cue sheet.
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Old 2005-03-16, 05:00 PM
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Re: I retracked a show!

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So can anyone guide me through a free wave cutting program that's 100% effective in cutting the wave and never introducing SBE's?
CD Wave

http://www.sharewareorder.com/CD-Wave-download-6068.htm
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Old 2005-03-16, 05:00 PM
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Re: I retracked a show!

CDwave is not free. It's shareware.
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Old 2005-03-16, 05:08 PM
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Re: I retracked a show!

Note that CD Wave is shareware. This means you can use it in any non-commercial way. You can try it for a period of one month (31 days). If you wish to continue to use it after that period, you must register. Instructions on how to register are also in the help file.

I downloaded this in August 2004 and still use it.

I used it to spilt the ELP and ARMS show I torrented on this site!

http://www.milosoftware.com/cdwave/
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Old 2005-03-16, 05:15 PM
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Re: I retracked a show!

OK, I'll DL it when I get home. If I can use it for free, that's fine.
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Old 2005-03-16, 05:22 PM
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Re: I retracked a show!

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OK, I'll DL it when I get home. If I can use it for free, that's fine.
It never asked my to register after the so-called 30 day trail and it still works fine.
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Old 2005-03-16, 06:00 PM
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Re: I retracked a show!

Fwiw, EAC can easily cut wave files along sector boundaries.
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Old 2005-03-16, 06:18 PM
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Re: I retracked a show!

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Fwiw, EAC can easily cut wave files along sector boundaries.
really? how do you do that? I'd love to learn if you'd be so kind.
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