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Old 2007-04-20, 03:46 PM
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Question md5 failure?

so, i dl'ed a zep show from usenet, and i have a conundrum. the md5 file fails on like 1/2 of the tracks. the par files, and indeed the flac files check out. which do i go with?

i listened to a few of the tracks that "failed", and there are no digital artifacts, but i know that doesn't always mean anything. i guess the poster could have started with bad files, but one would hope people aren't that stupid. thoughts?
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Old 2007-04-20, 07:14 PM
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Re: md5 failure?

which show? have you posted in the thread to see if others are getting the same thing?
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Old 2007-04-20, 07:17 PM
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Re: md5 failure?

Did the post have any *.par files with it (kinda normal nowadays with most usenet posts). Try loading the par check file and see if it finds anything wrong with the downloaded files.

Also, my memory might be confused here as it's been a couple years since it was floating around, but I seem to remember some years back that there was a "bad" version of one brand of software that either created/checked either the md5's or par files. Too far back in the past. You might want to try a different program to check the md5's as it might have related to them.

And of course, you can also monitor the group you got the files and see if anyone else complains. What show is it?
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Re: md5 failure?

...actually now that I think about it I think the bad program was for par2 files....check anyways with a different md5 checker.
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Old 2007-04-20, 07:40 PM
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Re: md5 failure?

lol, ok, i will try a different md5 checker, all i normally use is mkw. the par files check out, as do the flac files.

doesnt anyone actually read posts anymore?
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Old 2007-04-20, 07:49 PM
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Re: md5 failure?

try TLH: http://thor.prohosting.com/roh0205/
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Old 2007-04-20, 08:11 PM
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Re: md5 failure?

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lol, ok, i will try a different md5 checker, all i normally use is mkw. the par files check out, as do the flac files.

doesnt anyone actually read posts anymore?
MKWact has trouble with any comments in the md5 (like the ones md5summer adds). try TLH as aar.oner suggests...
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mkw - old school
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Old 2007-04-20, 10:05 PM
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Old 2007-04-22, 01:18 AM
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Re: md5 failure?

Crazy question--do the filenames even match the filenames in the md5 file? If they don't, there's your problem right there. Of course, for all we know, the original seeder could have altered some tags on the FLAC files and didn't know he needed to create new wholefile md5s.

This is of course presuming that you still have problems after checking the files with TLH.
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Old 2007-04-22, 01:04 PM
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Re: md5 failure?

so, i ran tlh, and it verified the ffp, but the md5 still had the same files fail. im so confused!?! it is possible he messed around with the tags, i havent looked yet.

also, this lil tlh program is pretty nifty. almost takes all of the fun out of lossless.
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Re: md5 failure?

make a new md5 of the file set and compare both in Notepad or other text editor...are the sums different for the failed files, or did the filename get changed maybe?
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Re: md5 failure?

also, have you tried restarting the torrent and letting it recheck the files, maybe a few pieces failed and need to be re-downloaded
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Re: md5 failure?

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also, have you tried restarting the torrent and letting it recheck the files, maybe a few pieces failed and need to be re-downloaded
He mentioned he got the show from usenet, and that's pretty much just like downloading a series of files. Plus he checked them with parity as ok. Best thing I can recommend is posting in the group and asking if anyone else has a problem with the files.

trustthex, what show is it and did you get it from abslz? I can test download a couple tracks if you want. Heck, if it's one of the recycled ones I might already have it from back the first time it was posted.
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Old 2007-04-22, 04:54 PM
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Re: md5 failure?

run "test mode" in tlh on the FLAC files. if they test okay then they are fine, regardless of the confusion about the md5.
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