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Old 2010-01-21, 05:11 PM
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Re: Name & Shame Uberleechers Thread

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The problem here is that you are comparing something that must be acquired via a commercial transaction with something that is freely traded or given away for free.
remember, nothing in life is free

even in the olden snail mail trading days there was a cost for tapes/postage, now this hobby has evolved but there is still the cost for of ISP

at least sharpie009 has increased his ratio but yours has been forever stuck at 0.30

maybe you're more of a than a collector, that's OK too
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Old 2010-01-21, 05:14 PM
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the best things in life are free. remember?

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Old 2010-01-21, 06:41 PM
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Re: Name & Shame Uberleechers Thread

just realised this thread was started by the now late Koolkat...
Rip KK...
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Old 2010-01-21, 10:48 PM
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the best things in life are free. remember?
that excludes teh interwebs

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Why bother at this point?
The problem here is that you are comparing something that must be acquired via a commercial transaction with something that is freely traded or given away for free.
why bother, indeed? you feel entitled to do whatever you want because it's the internet.
don't worry, you're not the first
(and it might be considered free in terms of money exchanging hands, but it's not free in terms of other peoples effort and time)

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No, I'm not aware that a crap ratio is always the downloader's responsibility, guess you haven't been keeping up with the discussion. You keep wanting to justify your unwavering "1:1 or you're a thief" viewpoint, while refusing to even acknowledge that viewpoints other than your own even exist.
I fully acknowledge other viewpoints exist, but I specifically disagree with yours.

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Isn't it possible that there are users with very fast upload speeds who don't give a shit about others' ratios, and love to contribute to the site with their bandwidth? Imagine that, huh? All they are concerned with is distributing as many copies of the show as possible, and consider themselves fortunate to have their fast connection to be able to help out their fellow fans.
Deflecting attention? Another tactic of someone who knows their position is weak. The seeders aren't the issue - unless you want to be one of those silly wanks who complains that your ratio can't improve because other people seed too much. The issue is people who take more than they give back.

It is nice to see you put a value on what seeders provide, though. Even though it's more rationalizing of your entitled take-what-I-want approach. How about the next person who wants the show? Are you gonna hop on and seed for them? Or are you going to leave it to someone else? We both know the answer to that.

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There are always going to be a certain number of people who no matter how slow their connection speed, will always maintain a 1:1 ratio for whatever reason. e.g. it could be personal pride, or it could be not wanting to hear criticism. Curious...how many DVDs did you d/l over dial up?
so what if you had no internet connection at all? would that mean seeders should send you discs at their expense? (just going with an absurd extension of your logic)

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Nothing wrong with vines and B&Ps if you're on dial up, have a small b/w cap, or just can't find certain shows any other way. Why use an old school trading method like snail mail if you don't have to? imo
So you're basically admitting that you're lazy and impatient.

It's OK, we can get through this together.
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Old 2010-01-22, 06:42 AM
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why bother, indeed? you feel entitled to do whatever you want because it's the internet.
don't worry, you're not the first
(and it might be considered free in terms of money exchanging hands, but it's not free in terms of other peoples effort and time)
No, I know how the system works. I passed sixth grade math.

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Deflecting attention? Another tactic of someone who knows their position is weak. The seeders aren't the issue - unless you want to be one of those silly wanks who complains that your ratio can't improve because other people seed too much. The issue is people who take more than they give back.
You're one of those silly wanks who conveniently forgets or never read what was posted only 2 pages ago. Which is why it's dumb to keep this going.

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It is nice to see you put a value on what seeders provide, though. Even though it's more rationalizing of your entitled take-what-I-want approach. How about the next person who wants the show? Are you gonna hop on and seed for them? Or are you going to leave it to someone else? We both know the answer to that.
I proposed the idea of a 'rescued torrents' statistic, which would be added to someone's stats if they revive a torrent with no seeders and help stranded leechers complete. I also proposed a 'time seeded' stat, which would indicate that someone is making an effort to seed, even if there are few or no leechers on a torrent. It was mentioned above that some people "don't want to seed." OK, so how does one know who wants to seed and who doesn't? Someone with a low ratio could be seeding some obscure, unpopular shows for months, but since this doesn't show up statistically, they'll still get smacked around for their ratio, with enlightened comments like this: "nice ratio douche! yeah, you're really making an effort to seed."

Interesting that you single minded data transfer neanderthals don't have any comment about that. It'll be about the raw upload and download numbers, and only those numbers until BT is no longer used.

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so what if you had no internet connection at all? would that mean seeders should send you discs at their expense? (just going with an absurd extension of your logic)
Should they? No, you're missing the whole point....some people offer freebies with no strings. Maybe you think that freebies are absurd, or that those who send them are suckers for not getting anything in return...others call it generosity. As long as people are offering freebies, there will be people who will take them. You're acting like I'm demanding free stuff, or demanding more than I'm entitled to. Au contraire, I'm receiving a gift from people happy to give that gift. From the looks of your ratio, you like giving gifts as well.....or do you just use that big ratio as a cudgel to beat a guilt trip into n00bs who don't fully understand BT yet?

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So you're basically admitting that you're lazy and impatient.

It's OK, we can get through this together.
Of course! The whole point of all of these rebuttals is to finally admit that I'm lazy and impatient, and that everyone can get to 1:1 no matter how slow their connection is...you just have to work hard enough.

but, but, but!



you must haves it!
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Old 2010-01-22, 06:48 AM
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Re: Name & Shame Uberleechers Thread

Peaktime may have a bad ratio, but i don't give a rat's ass about that; the guy is a cool dude, making many fun contributions to The Lounge.
Pervesely, some of the biggest assholes i've come across have possessed superb ratios.
sorry, guys, i'm just not prepared to allow such trivial conditions to design my Christmas Card List.
Taking is an expression of appreciation, and appreciation is has an intrinsic tangential relationship with love. you could say that appreciation is an aspect of love.
when someone hits and runs on one of my uploads, i actually experience orgasm; but that's another thread.
i think it's great when people take music, because it validates the giving of the music.
and as i said before: it's nearly always the cats with the trashy ratios that take the time to say thanks!
Gratitude is also an aspect of love.
if you love the music, take it and give thanks. it could be that when you share the damn stuff back, you wind up sharing the music with someone that doesn't even know how to decode a FLAC file anyhow.
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Old 2010-01-22, 06:58 AM
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Brilliant, J.R.!!! Wonderful, absolutely wonderful!

In the immortal words of Boston:

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Everybody's waitin'
Gettin' crazy
Anticipating love and music
Play, play, play, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

And Mooncusser, while we may not see eye to eye on this, I enjoy your humorous lounge posts.
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Old 2010-01-22, 07:17 AM
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you wind up sharing the music with someone that doesn't even know how to decode a FLAC file anyhow.

Isn't that when they shoot at airplanes w/antiaircraft guns, or is that too old-school?
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Old 2010-01-22, 07:37 AM
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Isn't that when they shoot at airplanes w/antiaircraft guns, or is that too old-school?
that's right. blistering shards of red-hot metal showering the plane from all directions. rear-gunners were often decapitated.
the old-fashioned stuff is often the best.
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Old 2010-01-22, 09:00 AM
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that's right. blistering shards of red-hot metal showering the plane from all directions. rear-gunners were often decapitated.
the old-fashioned stuff is often the best.
Sounds like a torrent Alex & possessed would be interested in.
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Old 2010-01-22, 12:48 PM
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Re: Name & Shame Uberleechers Thread

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There are always going to be a certain number of people who no matter how slow their connection speed, will always maintain a 1:1 ratio for whatever reason. e.g. it could be personal pride, or it could be not wanting to hear criticism. Curious...how many DVDs did you d/l over dial up?

Nothing wrong with vines and B&Ps if you're on dial up, have a small b/w cap, or just can't find certain shows any other way. Why use an old school trading method like snail mail if you don't have to? imo
so basically its "whine whine excuse excuse i'm a greedy leecher" huh? when its really that you just don't care about sharing back


not too mention the part about you havin crappy internet access...i wouldn't call cable/DSL speeds so slow you can't u/l back yer just a greedy leecher, admit it and move on
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Old 2010-01-22, 12:51 PM
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so basically its "whine whine excuse excuse i'm a greedy leecher" huh? you really just don't care about sharing back
freezer?
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Old 2010-01-22, 12:57 PM
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ya had to go and say it, didn't ya dc? now he'll be in here arguing about Led Zep tapes
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Old 2010-01-22, 01:52 PM
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kinda like saying "Candyman"
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Old 2010-01-22, 02:01 PM
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one thing the Freezer ain't got to worry about is people having a gripe with his ratio.
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