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Old 2015-02-05, 07:20 PM
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Under the fair use act can we download a You-Tube vid and convert it to a downloadable source, provided it's verified?
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Old 2015-02-05, 07:35 PM
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Re: U-Tube to Vob? . . .

Is this a copyright issue question? haha

You can't upload lossy youtube videos to The Trader's Den.
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Old 2015-02-05, 08:12 PM
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Re: U-Tube to Vob? . . .

Thank You for clearing that up . . . bit naive here, but is all youtube videos lossy?
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Old 2015-02-05, 08:29 PM
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Re: U-Tube to Vob? . . .

Rather, I submit it and you will reject it . . . if it doesn't meet a standard . . .
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Old 2015-02-05, 10:21 PM
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Re: U-Tube to Vob? . . .

If you upload a dvd that is sourced from lossy files, is there a way to tell?
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Old 2015-02-05, 10:22 PM
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Re: U-Tube to Vob? . . .

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Thank You for clearing that up . . . bit naive here, but is all youtube videos lossy?
Yes, they re-encode for their own purposes. Totally lossy video. The Trader's Den has very high standards of quality assurance and quality control. You can share that stuff elsewhere...
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If you upload a dvd that is sourced from lossy files, is there a way to tell?
Yes, by reading the fully complete and honest lineage that the poster should be providing...
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Re: U-Tube to Vob? . . .

I've got almost ten terabytes of the media called music, From 78's to the latest digital sources, how can I tell whats good to upload and what not to upload? . . .
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Old 2015-02-06, 12:09 AM
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I've got almost ten terabytes of the media called music, From 78's to the latest digital sources, how can I tell whats good to upload and what not to upload? . . .
Well, start here...
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/faq.php?
Read that, and get back to us with any questions from that first...
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Old 2015-02-06, 01:40 AM
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Thank you very much! Will study the parameters, and with luck be able to upload a show or two . . .
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Old 2015-02-06, 04:22 PM
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Yes, by reading the fully complete and honest lineage that the poster should be providing...
Not just for posting here. Any dvd could be wmv files burned to a dvd, and when you reupload the dvd, they're lossless vob files.
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Old 2015-02-06, 06:33 PM
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What software do you recommend? for analyzing the data . . .
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Old 2015-02-07, 02:44 AM
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What software do you recommend? for analyzing the data . . .
Look, there's no 100% way to know if you video has come from YouTube. There are very high quality videos on YouTube these days, 1080p and even 4K video. If you were to download one of these videos and encode them to a 720 x 480 MPEG-2 VOB file then most people aren't going to be able to tell that they were sourced from YouTube.

FYI, all consumer based video is lossy. It's just too big to be uncompressed. Your video camera that records at 24Mbit/sec AVCHD will look fantastic, but it's compressed. If you were to create a Blu-ray from this you could leave the video untouched and it would be suitable to post on The Traders Den. You could even re-encode this video to MPEG-2 and it's still suitable for TTD (I disagree with this rule).

If you want to share your videos, then it's best if you're honest and thorough with its lineage. If you don't know, upload a short sample of the original file to a hosting site (Mediafire/Dropbox etc.) so people can decide for themselves if they think it's worth downloading.
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