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Old 2012-10-16, 12:23 PM
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Re: Banned from another site

the topic of this thread is: 'how do I get back on a site I was banned at?'.
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Old 2012-10-16, 12:28 PM
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Re: Banned from another site

but it could be about the wonderful omelette I had for brunch tasty
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Old 2012-10-16, 12:34 PM
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the topic of this thread is: 'how do I get back on a site I was banned at?'.
......because of my bad ratio


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Old 2012-10-16, 12:36 PM
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Re: Banned from another site

eh, just keep posting. Gilligan needs threads to hone his merge skillz
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Old 2012-10-16, 12:37 PM
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Re: Banned from another site

besides.. it keeps him busy and out of trouble
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Old 2012-10-16, 12:38 PM
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Re: Banned from another site

unlike our OP.. whos not particularly loved over at Yessh
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Old 2012-10-16, 12:40 PM
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would they ban a taper who contributed new recordings but had a big deficit? that's stupid
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Old 2012-10-16, 12:44 PM
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Re: Banned from another site

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any temp or perm bans only last as long as your current IP address


get a new IP address, a new username, new email address (plenty are available for free) and sign back up. if you think that the mods will track you down on other sites, just use a new name at those as well.


admonishing someone to seed seed seed won't do much good if their u/l speed is pretty weak. yeah I know, if their connection is that slow they shouldn't be torrenting, they're what's wrong with modern trading, how dare you

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Re: Banned from another site

yeah, way too many rules on the internet these days. www = wild wild west


what.cd is a great site ruined by ratio rules ~ it happens
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Old 2012-10-16, 12:47 PM
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http://torrentfreak.com/private-torr...to-bram-cohen/



Private Torrent Sites Overemphasize Share Ratios According to Bram Cohen


Bram Cohen, inventor of the BitTorrent protocol believes that private torrent sites should stop tracking the ratios of their users the way they do now. He argues that the sites are overemphasizing the importance of the upload / download ratio, which fosters the creation of ratio cheating software, and calls it “extremely destructive”.

Bram Cohen told Zeropaid:

“[Leechers are] engaging in perfectly reasonable and non-destructive behavior and the site is trying to punish him for it, thus fostering the creation of clients which lie about their statistics. This is the site’s fault, and the result could do serious damage to the value of BitTorrent statistics generally. Sites which do this are being extremely destructive, and the way they grandstand about how they’re fostering sharing really ticks me off.”

According to Bram the nature of the BitTorrent protocol is built to prevent freeriding. Its Tit-for-Tat algorithm makes sure that you only upload pieces of the file to people who offer something to you. The more you upload to others, the more you receive. By overestimating the importance of the share ratio, it becomes almost impossible for some to actually reach a decent share ratio.

He continues:

“Just a little bit of threatening to ban people can get the overall balance to be very heavily weighted on the side of uploading, making it difficult for people to accomplish a reasonable amount of upload even if they try.”

To prevent overseeded torrents from “messing up” peoples ratio Bram suggest an alternative method to calculate the share ratio:

“When a client reports new downloads to the tracker, the tracker can multiply the amount by (number of current peers total – number of current seeds) / (number of current peers total) and add that to the ‘total downloaded’. This results in most people having a ‘ratio’ of more than 1, but that isn’t actually a problem unless you’re more interested in mathematical purity than practical behavior.”
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so, go sulk in the corner if you have asymmetric dsl and can't compete with the big fios dudes?

eff that noize

these sites exist on donations. donations which include the big boys helping out the little guys
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Old 2012-10-16, 12:56 PM
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not to mention that new users aways suffer the most. they shouldnt be penalized for enjoying a site.
..and without new users the whole circle gets jerked
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here's to yet another "jerkin the gherkin" ratio discussion

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Old 2012-10-16, 01:04 PM
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we're all in it together to lend a hand
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Old 2012-10-16, 01:38 PM
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Re: Banned from another site

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He continues:

“Just a little bit of threatening to ban people can get the overall balance to be very heavily weighted on the side of uploading, making it difficult for people to accomplish a reasonable amount of upload even if they try.”
This is what I've been saying for years.
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