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Re: Name & Shame Uberleechers Thread
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And it's funny that statements like that are almost always made by those with low ratios. No members have liked this post.
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but many do, and it's this disparity in upload speeds that makes ratios obsolete. when things were more equal, and everyone had similar b/w and wasn't being throttled/hacked with sandvine, the field was more level, and ratios mattered more. but one fiber optic user these days can take away upload opportunities for dozens of cable and dsl users. if most had fiber and similar u/l speeds, ratios would be relevant again. time spent seeding and 'torrents rescued' make much more sense to emphasize now if mofos are gonna make judgments based on tracker effort.
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![]() And, really I should have quoted peaktime sorry spencer.
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well, seeding 600+ shows and only downloading 20 GB helps a little too
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Explains why mine keeps shrinking...thought it was from lack of use.
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Sure, FIOS or whatever might give you the chance to upload a ton, but not having major bandwidth shouldn't prohibit you from maintaining a halfway decent ratio. When I first joined TTD, I had a dialup modem for chrissakes, and I still managed to keep my ratio around 1.0. Ratios aren't about bragging rights; they're about sharing. This site is called the Traders' Den for a reason; you take, and you give back. You trade byte for byte. Or at least you should. Peeps who take, take, take, and don't give back are just pathetic, imho . . .
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^ I like this.
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+1
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it's simple math: as long as there are people sharing more than they take, there will be people who take more than they share. it's a symbiotic relationship, and a mathematical certainty.
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![]() if people with ratios under a certain number really burn your toast, maybe you should stop oversharing, as you're just making the situation worse. or kick back, crack a brew, and enjoy the tunes instead of making something that's supposed to take us higher a stressed out competition. ![]() No members have liked this post.
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You just don't get it, do you, Peaktime? My sharing more than 1.0 does not compel anyone else, either technologically or volitionally, to share less. Calling it "simple math" tells me that you know as little about math as you do about sharing. And the fact that you think I'm involved in a competition pretty much underscores your cluelessness. It's not about competing, man; it's about trying to do the right thing. Everyone shoud upload more or less what they download, at the very least. My sharing more doesn't mean that someone else should, or has to, share less. That's a bullshit excuse. But, then again, the leechers and douchebags always have an endless supply excuses. I mean, if we had an excuse ratio, you'd be in like flynn. Nuff said.
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it's ok, some people just aren't good at math
![]() here's an example of a torrent being initially seeded with 100 leechers. some of those users will upload at 3 MBps, some at 1 MBps, some at 500 kBps, some at 250, some at 100, 50, 25, 15. Most people's download capabilities are much higher than their upload. The swarm starts and the race is on. By the time the torrent has been initially seeded, those with the highest rates will have given back 50 times, 10 times, 7 times, etc. more than they have taken, and those with the lowest will have ratios in the .10, .20, .30 range. And some of those really fast pipes may stick around to seed for another week or two. Some more leechers may join in, and then the torrent's popularity dies down a lot. Another torrent pops up, and the same 100 people are interested in it, and the same thing happens. You can't have loads and loads of oversharers giving more than they take without people to give it to! And this comes at the expense of those with slower connections or who don't spend much time seeding. The overall ratio of a torrent community's members will be 1.0, which means that some will be higher, and some will be lower necessarily in order to balance out to 1.0. It's impossible for everyone to get to 1.0 or higher. No members have liked this post.
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You're assuming a finite number of leechers in a closed system. The situation is really open-ended. new people come in, new torrents go up.
Besides, there are enough hit-and-run asses that purposely don't seed back that there is plenty of mathematical room for those that want to seed back. Quote:
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![]() Also, torrents die. If you're in the last batch of people to grab a torrent before it dies, you aren't uploading any more on that one. Quote:
which statement is true depends what the numbers really are, and you didn't supply any...but neither did I. Quote:
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maybe you think that everyone should maintain a great ratio no matter what their connection is, but I don't. I think the greater tragedy is that some average or low speed people maybe don't get all the shows they really want because they are worried about public opinion of their ratio. Meanwhile, someone with a fiber connection and a 189.07 ratio would be more than happy to hook them up with 30 minutes of their seeding time, but average speed person doesn't bother downloading because he's sitting on 4 other torrents that aren't uploading very much...and he's getting flack for his ratio after saying thanks in one of them. No members have liked this post.
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No one is asking for a great ratio...just 1/1. Give as much as you take.
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