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To shntool md5, or not to shntool md5
I think I'm confused, or confusing myself by my reading of the seeded torrents and FAQ for this site.
Rule 10 concerns the inclusion of shntool md5's, and that's cool with me...I just spent the last couple figuring out how to get the thing setup and running (thanks RainDawg for your steps and your additional comments in a different posting in here). Now, when shntool creates the txt file, it defaults to a specific name format each time (meaning it puts the word "shntool" in the txt file name), but when I'm looking at some of the seeded torrents here on TTD, I'm seeing what appears to be wholefile md5's included. Are people creating the shntool txt files and then changing the names to a ".md5" extension? What is considered the proper naming format for shntool files then? Two examples of uploads I'm looking at are the "Santana 1988-04-18 Sunrise, FL (SHN)" (the uploader mentions using mkwact and I don't see any other md5s posted as txt files) and "Flotsam and Jetsam 1980s Flots Till Death Los Angeles CA (SHN)." I haven't downloaded either of these torrents btw. I'm not picking on these two posts, they just happen to have good info uploaded, and the second one is noted as coming from STG, and I don't remember hearing about shntool there often (don't see a "shntool.txt" either). Are these folks not following rule 10, or am I reading the rule wrong and posting with the wholefile md5s (if original) acceptable as a substitute? There was also a torrent upload where RainDawg specifically thanked the poster for including the shntool file (don't remember which one now), and in the info file posted you can see the "shntool" name in those files. So that also makes me wonder about those other posts if RD is taking the time to thank someone on that point in one thread. I'm itching to start putting some stuff up, but want to make sure I'm doing things right....don't want to waste anyone's download quotas with a bad torrent. One final question as I can't figure this out either. Under the FLAC fingerprints FAQ, it says, "FLAC's use of the fingerprint allows users much more versatility while still maintaining the same core functionality : verifiying that the audio in your files has not altered since it was seeded. Of course, a user may still use wholefile md5 checks on .flac files if they see fit, but this is a practice performed out of ignorance rather than functionality. Using FLAC's fingerprinting is much more useful than wholefile md5 checking, and should be used 100% of the time." I understand not using wholefile md5s for FLACs, but should we be including shntool md5 checks with FLAC uploads? ....something, something, something about you folks wanting to create a database of the checks for torrents uploaded? but I don't remember where that part is in the FAQ, and my head hurts from thinking too much at this point. Alright...let 'er rip folks...and thanks for the guidance and patience
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Re: To shntool md5, or not to shntool md5
The FLAC fingerprint is fine when you're seeding FLAC files. SHNtool md5s are very important when seeding SHN or APE format for many reasons, which RainDawg will soon drop by and explain better than I could.
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Re: To shntool md5, or not to shntool md5
Ok, I've got it now. and thanks for the explaination as I was seeing conflict between the posts and the FAQ.
So: -If I post FLAC, then make sure there's a fingerprint file. MD5 of any kind need not apply...unless the person is weird and would prefer to do a shntool file instead of fingerprint file -If I post SHN, then create a shntool txt file and include it (creation name is fine). Wholefile md5's should be included if created with the original SHN's, well, just because there should be original md5's with SHN's -If a post of a previous SHN torrent is done (from a different torrent site) that didn't have a shntool file, create one prior to torrenting it on TTD -If a post of a previous FLAC torrent is done (from a different site) then it'd better have a fingerprint file from the previous posting Bet you're just itching for me to go back to work on Monday so I leave you alone
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Re: To shntool md5, or not to shntool md5
Ok, hopefully only one more question....
I have a show that was previously torrented to STG in Feb 04. It is two discs and they are each in their own subfolder. When I run shntool on the master folder it doesn't recognize the shns in the subfolders. Do I run shntool for each subfolder and leave the txt files separate, do I combine them into one txt file....may RD has a different batch file to help? The only reason I'm holding back on just pushing ahead is I don't know how this "big database in the sky" you want to do will work so I want to make my txt file compatible. ...or maybe I'll just post that Janis show I have as it's only one disc....anyone want "Port Chester Restoration Project" for Aug 8, 1970? I grabbed it from the shn newsgroup in Sep 2003... Thanks for the help folks...
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I think etree would recommend doing one .txt file for each disc, but I personally prefer a single .txt file for the checksums no matter how many discs. I also like to put all the files in one folder. I'm not sure what RainDawg will say about this.
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Re: To shntool md5, or not to shntool md5
Make different shntool md5s for each folder, but when you make the seed, post all of them into the single box in the upload screen for "fingerprints". I actually prefer to have a single file for everything, and usually combine it all into a single folder, but keeping them separate is fine too...to me it's just a matter of taste.
As long as it's all there, and all the fingerprints are put into the upload screen's window, it doesn't make a difference how you do it to me. No, my batch file doesn't scan through all subfolders...that's a lot more work.
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oh yeah, here's the part where I say "sorry for the hijack"
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Re: To shntool md5, or not to shntool md5
Hey guys, this forum is for "Technobabble" . I don't think we have a superstition forum here!
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