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  #601  
Old 2024-09-15, 02:44 PM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

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well, as said earlier here in this thread, I still hope that TTD will keep going on in some kind of way...I deeply hope this !!

But if not, where to share live music (seed/leech) besides Dime?
Maybe this site can be a solution ?
ZOMB
http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/
Rock music oriented, but I think they are open for all kind of stuff, as well.
Not so strict in the rules as DIME, but I have not tested this to the limit ;-)
Maybe, I will share and catch more there in the future, but not sure if my classical torrents will be very welcome there, though ....
...just a thought....
And they're currently running a ratio free period through the end of the month.
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Old 2024-09-15, 05:41 PM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

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It's up, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it. But the activity there is close to non-existent, purely because that was a reserve site "just in case".
will definitely check it out if this one closes up. guitars101 is good too no mods to f with your stuff.
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Old 2024-09-15, 05:45 PM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

I think everybody knows about G101
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Old 2024-09-15, 06:57 PM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

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I hope that somehow TTD will continue. I sure the hell won't go to DIME, and when I looked into other sites 2 years ago when we had the last closedown care I didn't find anywhere else where I felt comfortable.

I'm certainly not going to stop mastering shows. I might just have to take names of people who are interested in my future shows and circulate the shows via wetransfer links.
I hear ya about DIME. I have two years worth of recordings to upload, was about to start binge uploading, then got this message. Without this site there is no future to live trading. If we allow TTD to close then the labels have won and we all should give up and go back to our day jobs
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Old 2024-09-15, 08:14 PM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

Warning: mushy emotional content ahead

I'm quite saddened by the closure of TTD. There's too many names of contributors to specifically mention, so I just wanna say how thankful I am to have been a participant here. There's nothing really else I can say than thank you thank you thank you. Without really getting due credit, your generosity made my hobby an amazing fucking blast.

I'm now entering the final innings of my life & when I reflect back to the early 80s when the mere idea that, for example, I'd some day be able to enjoy Led Zeppelin's entire 1971 tour of Japan (from multiple tapers!) and how all those magnificent, amazing, historical artists who I loved would honor us fans by playing live for us one more time..... and now knowing they never will (or can't) again.... it's like the tragic sudden slamming of a door shut.

I'll never ever be able to see Paul McCartney or Brian Wilson or Dave & Ray Davies or The Zombies or Jimmy Page or Elton or Crosby Stills & Nash again. These amazing heroes rocked it to the end & I was so lucky to have seen (and recorded) their performances... and to all who are reading this message, God bless you for sharing these naughty unofficial recordings -- even to the extent of learning how to tastefully use modern software to enhance our enjoyment of them --- I am popping-open & raising my cold Heineken to you.

These wonderful memories are but mere zeros and ones on our hard drives, CDs & DVDs.... but they sure represent a whole lot more, don't they?

Does anyone remember a time when only a handful of The Beatles' BBC performances existed and they were on awful multi-gen vinyl pressings titled "Yellow Matter Custard" ???

If you're a fan of late 60s rock, did you ever think The fuckin' Zombies would reunite and perform "Odessy and Oracle" live?

I never thought in a million years I'd get to record Crosby Stills Nash & Young from the 2nd row. But I did. Just a few feet away from Neil's son, seated in his wheelchair.

The last time Sir Paul McCartney performed at the United Center in Chicago, I stretched my arm out (nearly dropping my recording gear) and as he left the stage, he jumped up and high-fived me.

Seeing the 2003 iteration The Yardbirds at the Abbey Pub in Chicago. Wow.

Getting caught at the 2001 Chicago Blues Festival by a rent-a-cop who asked me if I was "making illegal bootleg recordings"... and at the Neil Young concert in Tinley Park in 2000 when I argued and argued for over an hour about how I was doing nothing morally wrong and NO, I am not surrendering my MiniDiscs. HAHAHAAH!

Why did these experiences happen? Because sharing live recordings is fucking cool to the tiny few who understand and I wanted to be there to get a tiny sample of the thrill and share it here. So, it's because of you on TTD that I had these experiences. I want to tell everyone that. You are why I got those wonderful memories.

I'm hoping heaven includes a listening room for us to meet and have a laugh and a listen forever. See you there.
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Old 2024-09-15, 08:26 PM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

This site is a torrent tracker requiring login/password. There's also a forum I've mentioned on the previous page, also requiring login/password - where it is possible to run private torrents and to post links. There is a "blogspot" model - a site having a "c-box" (or a "shout box"), where uploaders have to use login/password, but their links (posted in the "box") are open for everybody. Lastly, the kind of a specialized forum where links are in the open like Guitars101. (In any case, as long as certain popular upload sites are used, it's even possible to upload to them without logging to the said upoad sites.) So there are at least four different models for a new site.
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Old 2024-09-16, 01:11 AM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

Very sad to see the demise of this fine website. Big thanks to those who managed to fan the embers of STG into something that lasted for 20 years, that is quite an achievement, and one I am very thankful for.
You have certainly earned the right to spend your time listening to and enjoying music without concerning yourselves with the never ending details of its distribution.

On an equally sad note I just discovered that a hard drive issue wiped out all my beloved Neko Case recordings that I downloaded from here. I will never be able to get them back as they seem to have been consigned to dead torrent land. Oy. it's always something.....
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Old 2024-09-16, 03:01 AM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

How bad is the hard drive? I have some experience in data recovery
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Old 2024-09-16, 08:19 AM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

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Warning: mushy emotional content ahead

Spoken from the heart Roy my friend and dare I say you echo the sentiments of many more who will be saddened by the dreaded '404' that awaits us all.

I'll miss this place and the people who made it possible, my heartfelt thanks to you all.

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Old 2024-09-16, 10:34 AM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

I'm going to make a rather weird suggestion. Keep the forum, but shut down the tracker. Hear me out on this. When we went through this two years ago, in the immediate aftermath it was suggested to look at the seeding opportunities link to keep old torrents from dying, which I did. What puzzled me was BiglyBT would show a torrent I'd downloaded had seeders, but the TTD tracker itself didn't. At first I chalked it up to, "Well, the site is old." It was a Fleetwood Mac concert that got my attention. BiglyBT showed four seeders, but TTD showed zero. I forced a scrape in BiglyBT and it still showed four seeders, but none here. And that's when I discovered a lot of these are floating around on DHT. I think it's about 50/50 between DHT and private torrent, based on what I've downloaded since April 2022. To prove this point, I just downloaded a rather large torrent, not flagged private, de-selecting TTD as a scrape option, and the entire thing just downloaded via DHT. I also paid attention to port numbers in the peers section. At least one seeder wasn't from here. It still reported back here that I'd downloaded it, however. I'll play around with it, because in any event my share ratio - which dropped from a 3.09 to a 3.06 just now - isn't going to matter in a couple of weeks. EDIT: On my second attempt, I flat out removed any reference to TTD from the list of sources, and successfully downloaded something over DHT, without anything bouncing back to TTD. No peers from here, nothing showing I downloaded it from here.

Tl;dr, the forum - the community, the history, the knowledge - is more valuable than the tracker at this point. And seeds (no pun intended) for the way forward were planted twenty years ago. I'll add in my editing that I'd take it on, if I had the financial resources to do it, but I won't until 2033 at the earliest, if ever.

Last edited by bluorangefyre; 2024-09-16 at 11:17 AM. Reason: Added further research and additional info
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Old 2024-09-16, 11:19 AM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

i just figured out the site was closing. I'm so sad to hear that. i've only been here for 10 years but its been fun making friends in this community and sharing and receiving music with the group. Enjoyed all you different folks and the threads and stuff.
life is for learning... forgot what that's from, but its, (forgot what i was gonna say on that line).
i'm gonna miss everyone here, and this site and the communtiy here.
happy trails everybody! george
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Old 2024-09-16, 11:24 AM
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When Yeeshkul! ceased to operate back in February 2023, a bunch of Floydheads from there launched Raving & Drooling. Some clever souls managed to preserve all the threads from Yeeshkul! and they are readable in an archive there. They don't run a tracker - all new torrents are trackerless and connect through DHT. It does mean the torrents are no longer private but that's a minor issue IMHO. If no-one steps forward to replace Xavier and handle the IT, this could well be the way forward.
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Old 2024-09-16, 11:48 AM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

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When Yeeshkul! ceased to operate back in February 2023, a bunch of Floydheads from there launched Raving & Drooling. Some clever souls managed to preserve all the threads from Yeeshkul! and they are readable in an archive there. They don't run a tracker - all new torrents are trackerless and connect through DHT. It does mean the torrents are no longer private but that's a minor issue IMHO. If no-one steps forward to replace Xavier and handle the IT, this could well be the way forward.
I was around for Yeeshkul! closing down and moving over to Raving and Drooling. Nobody could save the site itself, and just moved the archive over to R&D and started from scratch. However, some of those torrents DO cross over to here.

If there's a way to move forward without having to start a site from scratch, while copying and pasting the archive, and just shutting down the tracker and converting all the torrent attachments (which, I checked, was tens of thousands!) into trackerless, then let's do that.
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Old 2024-09-16, 12:26 PM
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

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I think everybody knows about G101
no they dont.
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Old 2024-09-16, 12:29 PM
Lobito Lobito is offline
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Re: We've had a great 20 years!

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It's up, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it. But the activity there is close to non-existent, purely because that was a reserve site "just in case".

being close to "non existent" is hardly up and running, in my book at least.
by up and running i meant having at least 1 upload.
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