Flac & SHN archiving question

[mandonut]

I'm new to seeding shows. I did check through the faq but didn't really get a complete answer. I have several shows in FLAC and SHN format backed up on CDR / DVDR. I am pretty sure that extracting FLAC files back to my HD from a CDR and then seeding from those files is OK because of the "self-check" fingerprints that are included in the file in order to decode. Comments? What about shn files? Is there a certain program you would recommend for burning and or extracting shn / flac files to ensure that the file sets remain pure prior to seeding? Sorry if this has been asked before. TIA,

Sean

[AAR.oner]

i archive all my lossless shows [flac/shn/etc] w/ all the checksums/info/art onto DVDRs...for trading or seeding, all you have to do is pop the disc in, Copy the show's folder to yer HD, and then either burn it to a blank disc for trading, or upload it to a tracker for seeding via BT...just remember to always include ALL of the files when trading/seeding.

[feralicious]

Also, to be clear, you're not extracting anything if you leave them as flac/shn files. You're simply copying them to another drive/media. So by burning them to disc or copying them from a disc to a drive you aren't altering the files in any way as long as they copy over fine. Then you use the md5, fingerprints or flac frontend to verify them so you know they came over intact.

Extracting is a term used more for getting files from a disc that is burned as audio. That's pretty much a no-no since you can introduce diginoise into the files and there's usually a flac/shn source already being circulated. So if you've burned your files as an audio disc, the general rule is don't extract those for trading or seeding.

[mandonut]

Cool. I've done this twice now without verifying all the files. With flacs, my understanding is that it is not really necessary because they won't decode w/o the fingerprints. What about shns, what is the easiest program to deal with them? TIA

Sean

[TheMamba]

Trader's Little Helper: http://thor.prohosting.com/roh0205/

Will do it all - create and check md4's, FFPs, etc.

[alg]

Originally Posted by feralicious

Also, to be clear, you're not extracting anything if you leave them as flac/shn files. You're simply copying them to another drive/media. So by burning them to disc or copying them from a disc to a drive you aren't altering the files in any way as long as they copy over fine. Then you use the md5, fingerprints or flac frontend to verify them so you know they came over intact.

Extracting is a term used more for getting files from a disc that is burned as audio. That's pretty much a no-no since you can introduce diginoise into the files and there's usually a flac/shn source already being circulated. So if you've burned your files as an audio disc, the general rule is don't extract those for trading or seeding.

I have always made a copy and used that to recode/burn to CD for my use with nero6. My understanding is I could do this direct from source as nero 6 does not alter source FLAC/SHN. True or false

[AAR.oner]

ALG--Nero will burn flac files [it decodes-to-wav for you]...don't think it'll do shns tho [i could be wrong]...i always decode to wav using TLH first, as i trust its decoder more than i do Nero's on-the-fly...then load the wavs to Nero for burning to AudioCD

SEAN--Mamba said it best...TLH is the jernt

MAMBA--whats a md4?!?! i hadn't run into one of those before

[TheMamba]

Originally Posted by AAR.oner

MAMBA--whats a md4?!?! i hadn't run into one of those before

Bah...it was late and I was having trouble sleeping.

[AAR.oner]

Originally Posted by TheMamba

Bah...it was late and I was having trouble sleeping.

no worries...just a little ball-busting on this fine tuesday mornin

[TheMamba]

Originally Posted by AAR.oner

no worries...just a little ball-busting on this fine tuesday mornin

I can take it.

Hell, I'm just glad it's not Monday anymore - last couple of Mondays have been shitty.

Alg: You can do the samething with Foobar and I know it burns SHN directly to CD. Open all the files in order, select them all, right click, burn to disc and voila.

Originally Posted by AAR.oner

MAMBA--whats a md4?!?! i hadn't run into one of those before

It's a earlier cousin of the md5--I've heard the eDonkey network uses this kind of checksum.

[AAR.oner]