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Re: Recommendations for ripping 16-bit and 24-bit to flac
You can check the bit depth/sample rate of a .wav by right clicking > properties > summary.
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Re: Recommendations for ripping 16-bit and 24-bit to flac
Grrr.... data from the first track of my AC/DC torrent -
16-bit CDR ripped to .wav with EAC gives a .wav file of 56,786 KB, and thru TLH, I get a .flac file of 38,375 KB 24-bit CD24, .aif file of 55.4 MB, imported to audacity with all settings that I can find to 96kHz, 24-bit, then exported as .wav gives a .wav file of 85,234 KB, so looks as though we're still in 96kHz, 24-bit to this point. (Note; I may have omitted the 24-bit settings when I did the VdG torrent - so we should probably assume that's why that one's still 16-bit) However, the .flac file from putting this .wav through FLAC Frontend is 39,770 KB - almost the same as the 16-bit file from TLH - so it looks as though FLAC Frontend is the culprit I'm using FLAC Frontend v. 1.7.1 - I can't find any options that allow me to specify the output file format..... So, essentially, I'm still looking for a method to generate a 24-bit .flac from a 24-bit .wav............... Apologies to all those who've picked up the 24-bit torrents, it appears that they're plain ol' 16-bit after all....... sorry. Will upload the genuine article once these tech issues are resolved. Regards, Graham No members have liked this post.
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Re: Recommendations for ripping 16-bit and 24-bit to flac
Boy, is my face red..... just like the 'smilie'
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Re: Recommendations for ripping 16-bit and 24-bit to flac
The 16/44.1 .wav you get when you rip the red book audio CD is about 55 MB, but the 24/96 .aif is also about 55 MB? Are you sure you are burning 24bit/96kHz CD24s with the Alesis? Maybe you are burning 16/44.1 .aif files?
Also is .aif compressed at all? Because you are importing a 55 MB .wav, then exporting an 85 MB .wav? Maybe you are importing a 16/44.1 .wav and exporting a 16/96 .wav? Audacity will dither and truncate 24 > 16 but I don't know if it will bit expand from 16 > 24. After you import the .aif, then export to .wav from Audacity, it is a 24/96 .wav? You can find out if it is 24/96 by right clicking > properties > summary. FLAC Frontend will definitely not dither/truncate (convert 24 > 16) or downsample (96khz > 44.1kHz). All it does is compress losslessly. No members have liked this post.
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Re: Recommendations for ripping 16-bit and 24-bit to flac
Before you import the .aif file to Audacity, is it a 24/96 .aif? Maybe you can find out the bit depth/sample rate by right clicking > properties > summary.
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Re: Recommendations for ripping 16-bit and 24-bit to flac
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I've deleted the original .wavs that I built the torrents from (just kept the .flacs), so have to repeat the process to get the details.... Right-click only gives me file size and permissions info, nothing on sample rates etc... Regards, Graham No members have liked this post.
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Re: Recommendations for ripping 16-bit and 24-bit to flac
The bitrate of a CD quality 16bit/44.1kHz .wav is 1411.2 kbps
The bitrate of a 24bit/96kHz .wav is 4608 kbps A 24/96 .wav will be 3.27 times the size of a 16/44.1 .wav So if the 24/96 .aif files are uncompressed, they will be 3.27 times bigger than a .wav ripped from a red book audio CD with EAC. Even if the 24/96 .aif's are losslessly compressed, they would still be about 1.75 times bigger than a 16/44.1 .wav Hope this helps! Don't worry, you will figure it out. No members have liked this post.
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Re: Recommendations for ripping 16-bit and 24-bit to flac
GRC, if you are frustrated with Audacity, there are several other software programs that will get the job done much easier. Sony Soundforge (about $250 I think), Wavelab (about $600), or Adobe Audition (about $350). If you google there are $20 or $30 tools for converting formats, including .aif > .wav, but those programs have less features than the ones above. Here is a 21 day free trial of Cool Edit Pro (now called Adobe Audition):
http://www.softpedia.com/progDownloa...load-2076.html CEP is also handy for determining if a source is lossy or not, and I think you can use this feature even after the free trial has expired. Ask Five which program is the best value. No members have liked this post.
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Re: Recommendations for ripping 16-bit and 24-bit to flac
There might be old versions of Goldwave out there if you google. Goldwave was free at one time I think.
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Re: Recommendations for ripping 16-bit and 24-bit to flac
This thread is a bit dusty now, but I was wondering what the necessity for converting the aif files to wav is? This seems to be the only thread in Technobabble that uses the therm '.aif'.
I use flac 1.1.1 command line tool. It compresses .aif, .wav and .raw not to mention decoding to either .wav or .aif (.wav is the default). I recently started trying to use Garage Band and it seems to only export to .aif. I recently saw a recording on the archive that is .aif -> .shn. If my flac compression program will accept .aif files is there any reason to worry about changing .aif to .wav?
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Ok, Thank you. I'll go ahead and compress those .aif to .flac now. I must have forgotten about the part where he said he couldn't use the .aif because of Windows. Somewhere along the way I started wondering why he was going to so much trouble to convert to .wav. So Windows machines will not deal with .aif files at all? I didn't know that. Bill Gates, what a wonderful human being. The only guy who can come close is the President of Sony. ;-) (PS. Blueray could spell the end to free-ware disk burning utilities!) The flac command line tool is soo easy, though. I don't really see any reason to avoid it. Unlike the command line version of shorten, flac 1.1.1 (and older/newer) will compress an entire directory or a list of files in a batch and you only have to remember two or three flags. I keep the command in a text file just to double check. But, maybe Windows did away with the command prompt utility at some point.
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