Name & Shame Uberleechers Thread

[mdshrk1]

Originally Posted by peaktime

maybe you think that everyone should maintain a great ratio no matter what their connection is, but I don't.

No one is asking for a great ratio...just 1/1. Give as much as you take.

[mooncusser]

it really is amazing to see/read the very complex reasoning that some people apply to excuse themselves for being greedy and not paying back their fair share into the pool. it would be much more honest to just come right out and say "I'm greedy and/or lazy and would rather treat this as a download service that a sharing/trading site. Please do not expect me to stay connected 2 seconds after completing. And you're being rude for pointing out that I have a crappy ratio."
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[daddyray]

I know some noobs dig themselves a hole otherwise regardless of one's strained logic one is being greedy.....but I need lots since I trade em. my bandwidth hurts. I only like Zep.

BS

[rspencer]

Those with limited bandwidth are welcomed to do Vines or B&Ps to help others with even more limited bandwidth. It won't credit the ratio, but one is less likely to get "called out" if they've been "seeding" back that way.

[dcbullet]

I agree with peaktime and his analysis regarding members getting over 1:1. It does prevent others from getting to 1:1. If everyone would drop off when their ratio got to say, 1.1:1, then there wouldn't be as many 0.2:1 ratios.

However, I don't actually care about this so I don't drop off. I like getting a big ass ratio. Fuck everyone else. Muhhahahaha

[Homebrew101]

Originally Posted by dcbullet

I agree with peaktime and his analysis regarding members getting over 1:1. It does prevent others from getting to 1:1. If everyone would drop off when their ratio got to say, 1.1:1, then there wouldn't be as many 0.2:1 ratios.

However, I don't actually care about this so I don't drop off. I like getting a big ass ratio. Fuck everyone else. Muhhahahaha

there is an ass ratio too?

[ZJLI]

Originally Posted by Homebrew101

there is an ass ratio too?

[peaktime]

Originally Posted by dcbullet

I agree with peaktime and his analysis regarding members getting over 1:1. It does prevent others from getting to 1:1. If everyone would drop off when their ratio got to say, 1.1:1, then there wouldn't be as many 0.2:1 ratios.

However, I don't actually care about this so I don't drop off. I like getting a big ass ratio. Fuck everyone else. Muhhahahaha

[J.R. Ewing]

Originally Posted by AAR.oner

maybe the ratio-ego issue is simple...ratio is inversely proportional to penis size

yeah...
so the thread becomes: Name and Shame Users With Small Dicks.
that would be more in keeping with the times, for sure.

[J.R. Ewing]

Originally Posted by daddyrayoll

my bandwidth hurts. I only like Zep.

at least you finally admit it, homeboy!

Originally Posted by daddyrayoll

BS

oh, damn, you were foolin' around!

[peaktime]

Originally Posted by J.R. Ewing

yeah...
so the thread becomes: Name and Shame Users With Small Dicks.
that would be more in keeping with the times, for sure.

He's saying that what they lack in junk size they make up for with a big beefy ratio. To put it into the vernacular of an oilman like yourself: it's kinda like getting a white '59 Caddy convertible with longhorn steer horns as a hood ornament if you just ain't getting it done in the bedroom.

[peaktime]

Originally Posted by mooncusser

it really is amazing to see/read the very complex reasoning that some people apply to excuse themselves for being greedy and not paying back their fair share into the pool. it would be much more honest to just come right out and say "I'm greedy and/or lazy and would rather treat this as a download service that a sharing/trading site. Please do not expect me to stay connected 2 seconds after completing. And you're being rude for pointing out that I have a crappy ratio."
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"Give back what you take" is a nice little simplistic slogan that doesn't take into account several factors. It is easier to remember a nice little bumper sticker phrase, though, than to put some actual contemplative thought into what is a complex issue.

[mooncusser]

such as?
if you mean the rationale of "I have slow bandwidth but still want to download all this stuff" you won't find sympathy from a lot of people.
that sounds an awful lot like "I don't earn a lot of money but I'd like that brand new Mercedes SLK."
either go slower, do b&p's or weeds/vines so you don't use ratio,
or download all you want and ignore the criticism.
those who argue with the criticism are aware that a crap ratio is the downloader's responsibility and not the fault of "the system."
(but they'll keep trying to justify it)
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[AAR.oner]

Originally Posted by peaktime

"Give back what you take" is a nice little simplistic slogan that doesn't take into account several factors. It is easier to remember a nice little bumper sticker phrase, though, than to put some actual contemplative thought into what is a complex issue.

i had no problem keeping a decent ratio even when on aol dial up...and now, my u/l speeds are limited to ~40k/s which is by no means speedy compared to a lot of high speed users, and i u/l more than my fair share no problem

all that aside, we do have a Vine and B&P forum that a lot of users who can't u/l still give back by offering up shows there...no excuse not to share, just sayin

[peaktime]

Originally Posted by mooncusser

such as?

Why bother at this point? If you can't be bothered to address any of the many points that I and others have already made, then I'm not going to keep hammering away. You've got your bumper sticker and you like it.

Originally Posted by mooncusser

if you mean the rationale of "I have slow bandwidth but still want to download all this stuff" you won't find sympathy from a lot of people. that sounds an awful lot like "I don't earn a lot of money but I'd like that brand new Mercedes SLK."

The problem here is that you are comparing something that must be acquired via a commercial transaction with something that is freely traded or given away for free.

Originally Posted by mooncusser

either go slower, do b&p's or weeds/vines so you don't use ratio,
or download all you want and ignore the criticism.
those who argue with the criticism are aware that a crap ratio is the downloader's responsibility and not the fault of "the system."
(but they'll keep trying to justify it)
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No, I'm not aware that a crap ratio is always the downloader's responsibility, guess you haven't been keeping up with the discussion. You keep wanting to justify your unwavering "1:1 or you're a thief" viewpoint, while refusing to even acknowledge that viewpoints other than your own even exist.

Isn't it possible that there are users with very fast upload speeds who don't give a shit about others' ratios, and love to contribute to the site with their bandwidth? Imagine that, huh? All they are concerned with is distributing as many copies of the show as possible, and consider themselves fortunate to have their fast connection to be able to help out their fellow fans.

[peaktime]

Originally Posted by AAR.oner

i had no problem keeping a decent ratio even when on aol dial up...and now, my u/l speeds are limited to ~40k/s which is by no means speedy compared to a lot of high speed users, and i u/l more than my fair share no problem

all that aside, we do have a Vine and B&P forum that a lot of users who can't u/l still give back by offering up shows there...no excuse not to share, just sayin

There are always going to be a certain number of people who no matter how slow their connection speed, will always maintain a 1:1 ratio for whatever reason. e.g. it could be personal pride, or it could be not wanting to hear criticism. Curious...how many DVDs did you d/l over dial up?

Nothing wrong with vines and B&Ps if you're on dial up, have a small b/w cap, or just can't find certain shows any other way. Why use an old school trading method like snail mail if you don't have to? imo

[Homebrew101]

Originally Posted by peaktime

The problem here is that you are comparing something that must be acquired via a commercial transaction with something that is freely traded or given away for free.

remember, nothing in life is free

even in the olden snail mail trading days there was a cost for tapes/postage, now this hobby has evolved but there is still the cost for of ISP

at least sharpie009 has increased his ratio but yours has been forever stuck at 0.30

maybe you're more of a than a collector, that's OK too

[peaktime]

the best things in life are free. remember?

[Pottel]

just realised this thread was started by the now late Koolkat...
Rip KK...

[mooncusser]

Originally Posted by peaktime

the best things in life are free. remember?

that excludes teh interwebs

Originally Posted by peaktime

Why bother at this point?
The problem here is that you are comparing something that must be acquired via a commercial transaction with something that is freely traded or given away for free.

why bother, indeed? you feel entitled to do whatever you want because it's the internet.
don't worry, you're not the first
(and it might be considered free in terms of money exchanging hands, but it's not free in terms of other peoples effort and time)

Originally Posted by peaktime

No, I'm not aware that a crap ratio is always the downloader's responsibility, guess you haven't been keeping up with the discussion. You keep wanting to justify your unwavering "1:1 or you're a thief" viewpoint, while refusing to even acknowledge that viewpoints other than your own even exist.

I fully acknowledge other viewpoints exist, but I specifically disagree with yours.

Originally Posted by peaktime

Isn't it possible that there are users with very fast upload speeds who don't give a shit about others' ratios, and love to contribute to the site with their bandwidth? Imagine that, huh? All they are concerned with is distributing as many copies of the show as possible, and consider themselves fortunate to have their fast connection to be able to help out their fellow fans.

Deflecting attention? Another tactic of someone who knows their position is weak. The seeders aren't the issue - unless you want to be one of those silly wanks who complains that your ratio can't improve because other people seed too much. The issue is people who take more than they give back.

It is nice to see you put a value on what seeders provide, though. Even though it's more rationalizing of your entitled take-what-I-want approach. How about the next person who wants the show? Are you gonna hop on and seed for them? Or are you going to leave it to someone else? We both know the answer to that.

Originally Posted by peaktime

There are always going to be a certain number of people who no matter how slow their connection speed, will always maintain a 1:1 ratio for whatever reason. e.g. it could be personal pride, or it could be not wanting to hear criticism. Curious...how many DVDs did you d/l over dial up?

so what if you had no internet connection at all? would that mean seeders should send you discs at their expense? (just going with an absurd extension of your logic)

Originally Posted by peaktime

Nothing wrong with vines and B&Ps if you're on dial up, have a small b/w cap, or just can't find certain shows any other way. Why use an old school trading method like snail mail if you don't have to? imo

So you're basically admitting that you're lazy and impatient.

It's OK, we can get through this together.

[peaktime]

Originally Posted by mooncusser

why bother, indeed? you feel entitled to do whatever you want because it's the internet.
don't worry, you're not the first
(and it might be considered free in terms of money exchanging hands, but it's not free in terms of other peoples effort and time)

No, I know how the system works. I passed sixth grade math.

Deflecting attention? Another tactic of someone who knows their position is weak. The seeders aren't the issue - unless you want to be one of those silly wanks who complains that your ratio can't improve because other people seed too much. The issue is people who take more than they give back.

You're one of those silly wanks who conveniently forgets or never read what was posted only 2 pages ago. Which is why it's dumb to keep this going.

It is nice to see you put a value on what seeders provide, though. Even though it's more rationalizing of your entitled take-what-I-want approach. How about the next person who wants the show? Are you gonna hop on and seed for them? Or are you going to leave it to someone else? We both know the answer to that.

I proposed the idea of a 'rescued torrents' statistic, which would be added to someone's stats if they revive a torrent with no seeders and help stranded leechers complete. I also proposed a 'time seeded' stat, which would indicate that someone is making an effort to seed, even if there are few or no leechers on a torrent. It was mentioned above that some people "don't want to seed." OK, so how does one know who wants to seed and who doesn't? Someone with a low ratio could be seeding some obscure, unpopular shows for months, but since this doesn't show up statistically, they'll still get smacked around for their ratio, with enlightened comments like this: "nice ratio douche! yeah, you're really making an effort to seed."

Interesting that you single minded data transfer neanderthals don't have any comment about that. It'll be about the raw upload and download numbers, and only those numbers until BT is no longer used.

so what if you had no internet connection at all? would that mean seeders should send you discs at their expense? (just going with an absurd extension of your logic)

Should they? No, you're missing the whole point....some people offer freebies with no strings. Maybe you think that freebies are absurd, or that those who send them are suckers for not getting anything in return...others call it generosity. As long as people are offering freebies, there will be people who will take them. You're acting like I'm demanding free stuff, or demanding more than I'm entitled to. Au contraire, I'm receiving a gift from people happy to give that gift. From the looks of your ratio, you like giving gifts as well.....or do you just use that big ratio as a cudgel to beat a guilt trip into n00bs who don't fully understand BT yet?

So you're basically admitting that you're lazy and impatient.

It's OK, we can get through this together.

Of course! The whole point of all of these rebuttals is to finally admit that I'm lazy and impatient, and that everyone can get to 1:1 no matter how slow their connection is...you just have to work hard enough.

but, but, but!



you must haves it!

[J.R. Ewing]

Peaktime may have a bad ratio, but i don't give a rat's ass about that; the guy is a cool dude, making many fun contributions to The Lounge.
Pervesely, some of the biggest assholes i've come across have possessed superb ratios.
sorry, guys, i'm just not prepared to allow such trivial conditions to design my Christmas Card List.
Taking is an expression of appreciation, and appreciation is has an intrinsic tangential relationship with love. you could say that appreciation is an aspect of love.
when someone hits and runs on one of my uploads, i actually experience orgasm; but that's another thread.
i think it's great when people take music, because it validates the giving of the music.
and as i said before: it's nearly always the cats with the trashy ratios that take the time to say thanks!
Gratitude is also an aspect of love.
if you love the music, take it and give thanks. it could be that when you share the damn stuff back, you wind up sharing the music with someone that doesn't even know how to decode a FLAC file anyhow.

[peaktime]

Brilliant, J.R.!!! Wonderful, absolutely wonderful!

In the immortal words of Boston:

Rock and roll band
Everybody's waitin'
Gettin' crazy
Anticipating love and music
Play, play, play, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

And Mooncusser, while we may not see eye to eye on this, I enjoy your humorous lounge posts.

[mdshrk1]

Originally Posted by J.R. Ewing

you wind up sharing the music with someone that doesn't even know how to decode a FLAC file anyhow.

Isn't that when they shoot at airplanes w/antiaircraft guns, or is that too old-school?

[J.R. Ewing]

Originally Posted by mdshrk1

Isn't that when they shoot at airplanes w/antiaircraft guns, or is that too old-school?

that's right. blistering shards of red-hot metal showering the plane from all directions. rear-gunners were often decapitated.
the old-fashioned stuff is often the best.

[rspencer]

Originally Posted by J.R. Ewing

that's right. blistering shards of red-hot metal showering the plane from all directions. rear-gunners were often decapitated.
the old-fashioned stuff is often the best.

Sounds like a torrent Alex & possessed would be interested in.

[AAR.oner]

Originally Posted by peaktime

There are always going to be a certain number of people who no matter how slow their connection speed, will always maintain a 1:1 ratio for whatever reason. e.g. it could be personal pride, or it could be not wanting to hear criticism. Curious...how many DVDs did you d/l over dial up?

Nothing wrong with vines and B&Ps if you're on dial up, have a small b/w cap, or just can't find certain shows any other way. Why use an old school trading method like snail mail if you don't have to? imo

so basically its "whine whine excuse excuse i'm a greedy leecher" huh? when its really that you just don't care about sharing back


not too mention the part about you havin crappy internet access...i wouldn't call cable/DSL speeds so slow you can't u/l back yer just a greedy leecher, admit it and move on

[dcbullet]

Originally Posted by AAR.oner

so basically its "whine whine excuse excuse i'm a greedy leecher" huh? you really just don't care about sharing back

freezer?

[AAR.oner]

ya had to go and say it, didn't ya dc? now he'll be in here arguing about Led Zep tapes

[mooncusser]

kinda like saying "Candyman"
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[J.R. Ewing]

one thing the Freezer ain't got to worry about is people having a gripe with his ratio.

[mdshrk1]

Now here's the kind of ass that needs to be shamed. Posted on one of the Jeff Beck torrents.

Thank you, but my ears only listen
to 48 BIT-VERSIONS !
Any help or tracker where to find it ?

Thank you

RAMMY

rammsfeld
NAGGISCHSCÄNNER von DAD
167.43 GB/44.97 GB/0.27

[rspencer]

What he needs help in is knowing the difference between bit-depth & sampling rate.

[J.R. Ewing]

Thank you, but my ears only listen
to 48 BIT-VERSIONS !

he listens with his ears????
what else would he listen with? his godamn friggin' dick??

[ccrider895]

Originally Posted by J.R. Ewing

he listens with his ears????
what else would he listen with? his godamn friggin' dick??

Why not? I've been accused of thinking with mine.

[mdshrk1]

Originally Posted by lintoni

Why not? I've been accused of thinking with mine.

Most males have had the same accusations made about them.

[J.R. Ewing]

i've been accused of worse.
i use a good ratio to deflect from my most glowering faults.

[mooncusser]

frankstreber
142.77 GB/6.42 GB/0.04



one single post, and it's to bitch

[shopkin]

Originally Posted by J.R. Ewing

i've been accused of worse.
i use a good ratio to deflect from my most glowering faults.

you and a few other people around here.......