Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

[Jetrell69]

Originally Posted by BurntPage

I could use some help. Im new to this site and have a few hundred shows I'd like to share. I have the downloading part down, and Ive downloaded the bt creator but Im not sure if I am doing it correctly, yes Im a knucklehead.

But where I need help is, what would be an appropriate amount of time to allott seeding. How long should I seed for after I have downloaded?

1:1 seeding is probably the optimal if you aren't uploading anything of your own....jumping off right after downloading something isn't really good manners but that is a decision only you can make.

[Hollie]

I have an extremely bad internet connection, I rarely get past 1Mb connection speed( Despite paying for 8) meaning it takes an absolute age for me to get a decent ratio ( I haven't actually completed a d/l from here yet but I'm going from past experiences). It would be more useful surely to suggest that once someone has d/l a certain amount they must have a certain ratio or they cannot download but instead they should upload until they reach the ratio , rather than blocking them entirely.
Though hoefully this shouldn't be a problem for me when my new ISP connects me

[splumer]

I think this was discussed in another thread, but mathematically, the highest average ratio for all members would be 1:1.

[dementrium]

Originally Posted by splumer

I think this was discussed in another thread, but mathematically, the highest average ratio for all members would be 1:1.

Mathematically... wrong.

The initial seeder breaks the 1:1 equation for the rest.

[ZJLI]

Originally Posted by dementrium

Mathematically... wrong.

The initial seeder breaks the 1:1 equation for the rest.

You should just ZIP IT! on this matter, dementrium.

[Pottel]

warn,...warn, then ban.
is the way i go at yeeshkul.
so not one, but two chances.
then normally a discussion and an explanation follows, and many times they just had no clue, or did not know how to easily build up ratio.
the real fuckers simply don't reply (and then get banned :-P)

[hugofuguzev]

(as of 2 November)
Rank User Uploaded Downloaded Ratio
1 fleamt 16.00 KB 13.91 GB 0.00
2 terrapin_food 17.98 MB 62.06 GB 0.00
3 enivid 4.78 MB 12.66 GB 0.00
4 vegetable_man 18.78 MB 31.58 GB 0.00
5 homeair 11.93 MB 13.84 GB 0.00
6 unnas 66.88 MB 61.16 GB 0.00
7 theladder2k 31.53 MB 28.69 GB 0.00
8 filfil 31.06 MB 25.11 GB 0.00
9 icculus723 18.53 MB 14.69 GB 0.00

I must admit, when I see stats like some of these yahoos have, I voted for .25 or lower, which is the standard at a few other sites. I know TTD doesn't enforce ratios, etc, but sometimes maybe it's time it started. I mean, some of these guys have been here over two years, scarfing it down without even a fuckin' thank you, let alone sharing. I'd love to hear some of their undoubtedly lame-ass excuses...Just sayin'

[daddyray]

two warning and a ban as Pottel said....ratio of .67 is pretty easy to manage although rookie mistakes do take time to clean up. I had trouble when I started at the Dime grabbing giant stale shit but still...
I kinda like the shame business but maybe I am a nasty prick.
My ratio is weak at throwndown (fleetwood mac) but only because they are three people ever on the torrents. But i NEED that stuff...the blues band not the later sludge.

[Wizardry007]

Normally I'd go with give them a few warnings but I'm seriously reconsidering now.
Okay so many people might not see it as an effort putting up a show but it is to me. So I'm seeding a show of my own today and see the 5th person completing just hit 100% and then close the client. I decide to check out his ratio and it shows:
Downloaded: 715.17 GB Uploaded: 55.61 GB Ratio: 0.08

Now maybe I'm just pissed that he didnt stick around to help seed my show, but with a ratio of 0.08 after 700+ GB downloaded it looks like that's his MO. People like that arent really helping the community and there should be restrictions to prevent people like that from leeching away...

So to sum it up... lets set a minimum ratio with a DL loft.... like after downloading 50GB you need to have a ratio of minimum 0.75...

// pissed of seeder....

[vladsmythe]

I think .01 should be a cause for concern.

[AAR.oner]

i only hit & run on shows with seeders that have shitty ratios

[Hollie]

thats a sensible idea, would help those who are trying to build up a ration though not so much in dealing with the ones that just piss off

[vladsmythe]

Originally Posted by Hollie

thats a sensible idea, would help those who are trying to build up a ration though not so much in dealing with the ones that just piss off

[ijwthstd]

Someone wrote me asking me to reseed a Metallica show and I dug it out and put it back on my computer and started seeding and added this note

"Once you have this please keep it open a while, I have some stuff I want to put up in the morning so I will probably shut this down and delete it again."

When I woke up in the morning, the person who wrote me had grabbed it and stopped seeding never to return while others had jumped on.

I am all for enforceable share ratios.

[dementrium]

For those people voting for the first option, I have some news for you.

you're taking a bold and lonely position on that poll...you got balls bro (good for you) I personally think it's a bit harsh, but I'm glad to know you don't give a damn what people think...that's the sign of a good person...hope we can actually make some changes round here...even if it's a small step, I'd like to see asses like that get kicked out