The Traders' Den  

  The Traders' Den > Where we go to learn ..... > Technobabble
 

Notices

Technobabble Post your general Need for Help questions here.
Lossy or Lossless?
Moderators

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 2017-10-22, 11:41 AM
mwonter mwonter is offline
233.38 GB/290.40 GB/1.24
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Reseeding question

In relation to a video, years back, I was told by one of the video mods, (schmoe iirc,) that the md5 of the reseed had to match the md5 of the original post.

Does this approach apply as well to audio reseeds?

(And yes, I know it would be ffp or shntool md5 files instead of the standard md5 that would be involved with audio reseeds.)

I did take a look at the FAQ, but didn't find anything that pertained, (likely due to my poor searching,) so if this written down somewhere, a link to that would be welcome.

Follow up question: If my understanding is correct, if the st5 of a reseed doesn't match the original post's st5, the audio has been altered.
Am I getting that part right?

Last edited by mwonter; 2017-10-22 at 11:46 AM.
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #2  
Old 2017-10-22, 01:36 PM
dorrcoq's Avatar
dorrcoq dorrcoq is offline
Champion of the Silent
TTD VIP
623.58 GB/1.83 TB/3.00
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Re: Reseeding question

Well...depends. Does every file not match the md55, or maybe just something like the text file?

One thing that will change the md5 without actually altering the audio files is if they were tagged after the initial seeding.

I'm not sure, but I would think if you listed it as a reseed and noted that the md5 has changed you should be OK. Just means nobody else can likely help you seed it with their files.
__________________
how can I obey the rule about no sexually explicit posts after seeing Lynne's back?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rider
I think Gray has all these grand plans and I'm sorry to bring it up when it came down to it he couldn't even sell t-shirts without fucking it up.

"please mind your own fucking business, you Looney cocksucker" - Freezer, 7/12/06
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #3  
Old 2017-10-22, 02:54 PM
mwonter mwonter is offline
233.38 GB/290.40 GB/1.24
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Re: Reseeding question

Let me try and narrow down my question.

Should the ffp or st5 of a reseed match the ffp or st5 of the original, and would not any mismatch show the audio has been altered?
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #4  
Old 2017-10-22, 02:58 PM
dorrcoq's Avatar
dorrcoq dorrcoq is offline
Champion of the Silent
TTD VIP
623.58 GB/1.83 TB/3.00
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Re: Reseeding question

As I said before...if the files were tagged after, then the md5 won't match, although the actual audio hasn't been altered.

Do you have ffp's? Tagging won't alter them.
__________________
how can I obey the rule about no sexually explicit posts after seeing Lynne's back?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rider
I think Gray has all these grand plans and I'm sorry to bring it up when it came down to it he couldn't even sell t-shirts without fucking it up.

"please mind your own fucking business, you Looney cocksucker" - Freezer, 7/12/06
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #5  
Old 2017-10-22, 04:28 PM
mwonter mwonter is offline
233.38 GB/290.40 GB/1.24
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Re: Reseeding question

How do I tell if a show that claims to be a reseed has had the audio altered or not?
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #6  
Old 2017-10-22, 07:00 PM
dorrcoq's Avatar
dorrcoq dorrcoq is offline
Champion of the Silent
TTD VIP
623.58 GB/1.83 TB/3.00
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Re: Reseeding question

Quote:
Originally Posted by mwonter View Post
How do I tell if a show that claims to be a reseed has had the audio altered or not?
If somebody altered the audio files wouldn't they call it a "remaster"? Reseed generally means nothing has changed, although you often see minor changes such as tagging, updated text files, etc.
__________________
how can I obey the rule about no sexually explicit posts after seeing Lynne's back?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rider
I think Gray has all these grand plans and I'm sorry to bring it up when it came down to it he couldn't even sell t-shirts without fucking it up.

"please mind your own fucking business, you Looney cocksucker" - Freezer, 7/12/06
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #7  
Old 2017-10-23, 11:46 AM
mwonter mwonter is offline
233.38 GB/290.40 GB/1.24
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Re: Reseeding question

Thanks dorrcoq!

I did re-look at the FAQ and finally found the concerned section,
under "Audio BitTorrent Seeding Policy", part 5.

"On the same token, once a show has been ripped to lossless media format, burning to a CD and then re-extracting is an extraneous step that often-times results in errors. FLAC, APE, or SHN sets that circulate may not be burned to audio CD and then re-traded or re-seeded. In otherwords, nothing like flac > CDR > (extraction method > wav >) flac. Please archive and trade only the original lossless files or acoustically identical alternate formats (verify this with st5s - see the Checksum Types FAQ). CDR generations are bad for the trading pool, and unless all versions of the bootleg circulate only on CDR, it will not be permitted here."

Thank goodness, the "reseed" I was suspicious of is indeed no good, and this all hasn't been an exercise in futility.
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
Reply

The Traders' Den > Where we go to learn ..... > Technobabble

Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Reseeding my own show - weslystoones Technobabble 4 2016-08-26 05:17 PM
Reseeding Old Torrents... - Intexity Technobabble 0 2013-08-23 02:19 PM
Newbie question about altering file info and reseeding - islandraider Technobabble 2 2010-08-13 06:22 PM
Reseeding question - splumer Technobabble 9 2008-04-04 01:14 PM


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forums


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:57 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - , TheTradersDen.org - All Rights Reserved - Hosted at QuickPacket
no new posts