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Re: do remasters fit with the site's mission statement?
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from now on you gotta know blumlein's patents if you want to post a remastered show at ttd seriously, folks. Kung Poo is right, we've been spinning our wheels when it comes to maintaining the highest possible quality standards of all torrent sites. we are getting back on track. J, look at effects>channel mixer in audition and study the MS presets. its like baking a cake from scratch rather than using a duncan heinz mix or some crap like that. you've got the right kind of mind for this so you must learn the fundamentals. you'll thank yourself. start reading books like this: http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Audi.../dp/0240805453 #1 best selling audio book on amazon. check the comments. read some threads over at gearslutz.org. this is minimum ttd requirements if we want to stick with the mission statement. If you still don't know what you're doing but are getting pretty decent results ... keep working at it and keep that shit to yourself Quote:
dude hope you're not mad at me... we're just talking here and I feel very strongly about this issue.
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tapers get other tapes from trade to make themselves happy I make people who actually want to listen to the music more than once happy . I dont really get anything out of it but a thank you and thats enough for me. hey poo have you ever bought an official live release from any band cause if you have then you bought something someone tweaked before releasing it. and do you believe that your recorder has actually captured what the event sounded like in the hall? when the bass is almost non existant or the highs sound like they are coming from inside someones pocket? all though not all tapes can be helped whats so bad about exposing those hidden freqs and making it sound more like it did live?. just because you cannot hear them in the master doesn't mean they are not there and with the right ear they can and should be brought out. and similarly if they arent there to begin with there is no way of improving them. like I said if you want to hear a flat one dimensional tape then so be it but there is no reason to put down folks like bluecongo, winston or myself who take the time to make it right just because of your purist attitudes. btw I was going to post the FM show here and I had already gotten U2Lynne's permission to do so but like I said why open myself to ridiculous criticisms from people who arent even willing to give it a chance plus you dont need to download it if you dont like it so why complain its not really hurting you at all. maybe if you'd give my reworks a listen you'd actually be impressed. Ps. here are the tapers comments about my latest rework at dime. in his emails to me he actually said the files sounded gorgeous. juxtiphi: you're a master at what you do... it's like hearing a studio recording with added audience thank you very much for the hours upon hours of meticulous work you put into this... i can't stress this enough folks, praise this man ! _sibbz_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I guess not all tapers feel the same way you do about this freak and there are plenty of other comments echoing these sentiments by many others who have downloaded my posts and realized it was well worth it. sure there are some out here who dont take the time I do when they try and improve something but I think eventually they all fall by the wayside as time goes by because folks can hear what a lousy job they did and simply stop responding to their posts all together. As for me I've been posting for just over 5 years without complaint and I can guarantee that I spend far and away more time and effort in my reworks than someone who twiddles a knob for ten seconds and thats why my posts have stayed alive on the tracker for years cause even when I'm not seeding them other folks are always helping to keep them alive. No members have liked this post.
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can't you make the font any smaller... I mean I can still read that.
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Ive never upped anything here as I know how this site rolls and when I had the inkling too do so I asked Lynne about it first to get her permission which she gave. I dont mind the fact that you want to keep this site as it was started and I'm not saying that all remasters are great Im just saying not all folks who ehem "twiddle knobs" are ruining stuff. ps. the reaso there arnt more samples in the post is due to the fact that anyone at dime who grabbed my rework already downloaded the original. No members have liked this post.
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Death Magnetic Vapour Trails St. Anger Dark Side of the Moon 30th Anniversary Edition Hendrix re-re-masters the problem is much bigger than ttd. ttd has to be a safehouse, this is the site's mission.
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five I just pmd you
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we had a good thing going, used to be WR and not a whole lot else now its TheFace007 spewing diaria all over our members' collections. remasters were total anarchy and the members kept an eye on one another, spoke to one another because it was a much smaller community. now everybody and their cousin is a n00b gloryseeker with ham fists. and a drive full of warez installed yesterday.
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it doesn't get fairer than that. No members have liked this post.
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As you well know, almost ALL silver boots are 'remasters' of UNKNOWN GENERATION recordings.
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i think the best way around this is to include the raw version
in the torrent as well. maybe limit which generation can be remastered and uploaded. i wouldnt want a 10th gen tape remastered. as some of you stated earlier, certain peeps do a great job while others suck. another way is to have a list of people who have done a great job on remastering and let those people upload remasters. people can be added to the list, and people can be taken away from the list. for the record, the most i usually do is increase the volume. with all that being said, what about people who make matrix mixes? wouldnt that go against what ttd is all about? No members have liked this post.
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we also don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water... but the way things are these days the bath water is an ocean and the baby is a minnow.
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OR who's gonna decide? Shit-fire, for sure, the longer you wait to take that first step, the harder it's going to be to decide which is the "site-approved" version. As I'm sure we're all aware, some shows/recordings have been booted numerous times, with varying degrees of eq, pitch and speed control issues, dropouts, intentional editing, unintentional editing, ....then you get to the best of these new innovations, remasters of poor quality boots that actually sound worse than the bootleg. And many other variables we could mention. And some titles are just copies of older boots with a new set of problems and issues tacked on. SO......... Is the mono version with clearest sound but with the speed fluxuation issues better than the stereo version with the loud hiss and dropouts and that is edited on disc two to make it fit on a 74 minute cdr..... OR would you allow the new remaster matrix in 5.1 which kept the speed issues intact while editing back the missing material from disc 2 to the hissy stereo copy? Choose wisely................ Or maybe you might wanna simplify the entire problem and just interpert the TTD mission statement with more emphasis on quality over quantity. which will mean you have to ban all them boots that do not conform, right? choose wisely............................ Hey, I know of a Led Zeppelin 1975 show that has nine or ten different silver (or cdr) boot titles, none of which are very good, so, who's gonna make the call on something like that? (maybe the taper of the show? maybe some LZ collector who favors one japanese bootlegger over another?) And who gets to answer on the numerous bitching threads asking why someone's favorite silver boot ain't allowed here, in favor of some different "title"??? Or why won't you allow the latest EV silver taken from the newest WR remaster because you banned the original WR remaster so that EV were forced to snatch it over at dime............ sounds like a fun time ahead. Quote:
TTD staff took a stand, set a cut-off date and that was it...Period. Do it, throw out that baby with the bathwater. That garbage will still be available for anyone that continues to look for it. Good luck, which ever way your wind blows.
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to briefly answer the ? -- yes, i think some remasters do fit with the site's mission statement
remastering a shitty old recording to make it less shitty is not a bad thing, whether it be audio or video...depends on the knowledge/experience of the person doing the work No members have liked this post.
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And some of these "remasters" are actually re-works of the newer boots with the newer problems tacked on. i can think of one in particular where the guy responsible for the "remaster" says in his notes that "there is some digital noise on track 5 that appears to have been added during the transfer from analog to digital, it could not have been present on the analog master reel because it is a uniquely digital type of noise".... why circulate a remaster of a silver CD that has been shown to have digital errors on it?? the community should have worked to suppress the version with digital errors and get the source back into circulation, rather than a re-work of the error-ridden CD with a new improved EQ setting. No members have liked this post.
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