Sony Bravia HDMI audio sync

[daddyray]

for some time I have had a couple of sony Bravia tvs which are very nice. I use HDMI cords because I can.. However when I hooked up an AV receiver so as to run the audio through my stereo speakers (I like stereo over 5.1...sue me) the audio would lag making watching concerts horrible..in the olden times I just ran rca cords outta the cable box or dvd play into the stereo and I was good..NOT with these tvs.

What I did instead is to run rca off of the audio outs on the TV itself and then went into the deep menu areas on the TVS (different between the two Bravia sets...bother) and found a setting called HDMI sync (set to ON postion) which seems to have fixed to issue..
hooray for LOUD

[direwolf-pgh]

you should have your DVD/Bluray components connected HDMI into your A/V receiver
..then HDMI out from the A/V receiver to the Bravia

DVD/Bluray > A/V Receiver > HDTV

capisce?

[paddington]

Braviasync is da bomb dot com. Does nearly everything for you !

[daddyray]

not HDMI compatible AV receiver so that ain't happening. HDMI out from Bluray and HDMI out from the HD cable box deal into the Bravia. I f I ran rca cords audio out from those input sources I got lag. Running RCA cords out of the TV audio into the receiver and setting HDMI sync to on within TVs menus straightened out the sync. Now there is an odd interaction between my tv remotes volume and the stereo speak volume but what the fuck it gets plenty loud when set smartly.

I understand what you are saying Wolf and that seems correct but not when some stuff is HDMI and some is not....

Now do I drag my best B&Ws into the family room? probably not as they are free standing and I have nice old IMF book shelf speakers up now.

[direwolf-pgh]

gotcha.. without the HDMI receiver you're kinda stuck.

[daddyray]

it is working great so how am I fucked? that makes no sense...and ya know my name ain't Charlie, Clyde.

the picture and audio sync is perfect now. it was just odd to hook up.

(see this post is all about finding my way around the lack of HDMI for my receiver..since I had trouble I thought I'd share the solution)

[direwolf-pgh]

you're using your TV audio out as a source into the receiver. thats cool
i thought you may have been wondering why the sync was off.. nevermind :)

[daddyray]

I have attenuation for that since it is an old HK thing and the speakers are odd n old too.

[stoner]

I have attenuation for that since it is an old HK thing and the speakers are odd n old too.

I hook up mine coming out of the tv so i can choose when to listen Thu the tv and stereo or just tv..

[daddyray]

^^^ yep that is what I did as well. works nicely

[dcbullet]

I use PS3, has both hdmi and analog out and you can use them simultaneously. hdmi to the tv and analog to the receiver.

winning.

[daddyray]

when I ran analog straight to the receiver there was a lag..... through the TV cleared that up.
none of our games systems are not in that room.

[direwolf-pgh]

you still need a proper HDMI receiver for DTS-HD / Dolby TrueHD decoding.. resistance is futile.

[paddington]

there's usually a configurable audio delay in the TV menus that will assist in clearing up any issues that might remain when channling the audio through the TV.

[daddyray]

it works I'm good til it breaks

[direwolf-pgh]

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grabbed this one last summer - 192/24 Burr Brown DAC / native flac playback / network streaming & all that fun stuff. (got it on sale for $699 - a no brainer) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882120156)

[daddyray]

wow that is nice

[uni-fi]

Even though your receiver isn't HDMI compatible, if it does 5.1 you can still run digital cables...it won't support DTS-HD / Dolby TrueHD, however it will support DTS and dolby digital.

A little secret that is not very common is that you can use a standard RCA cable instead of paying for "digital coax" (they're the same thing). If you do not have a digital coax out from your TV, then use an optical cable. Either way, you'll be doing yourself a favor. :thumbsup

[daddyray]

I'm good but thanks for the info


they sure do not make it easy to integrate the features of various gear...I end up googling around and bug you guys til I find out how to use what I already own. :disbelief

[uni-fi]

Another thing that bugs me is CEC (Consumer Electronic Control), or the ability to control other devices over HDMI...I found that I was having to turn things on and off in certain order or powering off a device and other things would turn off, and then I would have to turn it back on...Pain in the ass.

ex. Playing Pandora through the stereo and not wanting the TV on. If I turned the TV off, the bluray turned off effectively ending pandora. CEC is called many things on different devices (braviasync would be what it's called on your Sony devices).

[uni-fi]

A little secret that is not very common is that you can use a standard RCA cable instead of paying for "digital coax" (they're the same thing). If you do not have a digital coax out from your TV, then use an optical cable. Either way, you'll be doing yourself a favor. :thumbsupI'm good but thanks for the info




That sounds pretty lazy...you'll consider rearranging all of the speakers in your house, but moving a cable that is already plugged in and being used to another spot...too much work. :rolleyes:

You are taking audio that is digital and converting it to analog with a D/A converter in your TV (not good)...Keep it digital. No conversion necessary.

[daddyray]

I still have a working three in one flat screen vhs n dvd equipped tv set...that sucker only works off its own microbutton controller but it fits the room it is in so nicely.

[uni-fi]

http://assets.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/science/Zenith_Space_Commander_600edit.jpg


It's time...old guitars are sweet...old TVs are not. :nono:

[daddyray]

we had a two button one of those zenith deals.
The TV is not older (as the thread title says ....duh) but my stereo IN THAT ROOM is..this is by choice since I love the way it sounds.
Uni, I am not just being lazy although I am damn good at that too. Again, after trying all the other routes for audio signal I found the only one that provides correct sync for watching live music with the gear I have set up in that room. I have other nicer and other lamer set ups too so never you worry I have a modicum of happiness :wave:.

hey wanna watch a concert on my 7 inch portable dvd player with the micro speaker? the screen goes black now and then since my kids have dropped the player a few times but ......

[uni-fi]

I still have a working three in one flat screen vhs n dvd equipped tv set.
The TV is not older (as the thread title says ....duh)


Do you see what I did there? ;)



after trying all the other routes for audio signal I found the only one that provides correct sync for watching live music with the gear I have set up in that room.

You went around your elbow to get to your ass...You had to convert the pure digital audio to analog, by doing so, you created your sync problem, and then you had to use a function buried deep in a menu somewhere to add artificial delays in order to sync the audio and video back up. Keeping everything digital in the first place would have saved you a ton of headache, and given you more flexibility with your audio choices.

But as long as it works, that is the main thing. Seriously though, look into upgrading to an amp with HDMI built in (at least for your main viewing room). There are always receivers on craigslist for cheap...not to mention the prices are coming down like crazy. You can get great quality with all the bells and whistles for less than $700 all day long.

[daddyray]

yes yes yes and yes again Uni....all better

[uni-fi]

Someone will learn you one of these days...if not, that analog sunset will fix your ass...


:wave:

[daddyray]

thanks Prof. Smart....unfortunate that you have opined so much whilst not reading the start of the thread. Is this why others get bugged with you??? or perhaps this is light trolling? Available methods of keeping digi with this gear FAILED thus I moved to this workable fix...not perfect but better than anything I tried and I tried all the wiring plans I could think of and find... what say we give it a rest, huh? be well.

[saltman]

Another thing that bugs me is CEC (Consumer Electronic Control), or the ability to control other devices over HDMI...I found that I was having to turn things on and off in certain order or powering off a device and other things would turn off, and then I would have to turn it back on...Pain in the ass.

ex. Playing Pandora through the stereo and not wanting the TV on. If I turned the TV off, the bluray turned off effectively ending pandora. CEC is called many things on different devices (braviasync would be what it's called on your Sony devices).That is very annoying. With mine you can turn it off. It's called Anynet+ on Samsung stuff in the menus.

[Homebrew101]

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