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The Sixth Rat Packer
2010-02-20, 03:45 PM
I have a show I'm interested in upping and this is the info I have so far, but I don't know how to figure out the Lineage on this.

AUDIO CODEC: AC3
AUDIO BITRATE: 192kb/s
VIDEO SYSTEM: NTSC 29.97 fps
VIDEO BITRATE: 5098
LENGTH OF TIME: 1:16:00
16x9

MENU: YES
CHAPTERS: No Chapters (that I can tell)

LINEAGE: ?????????

Here is a clip of this show that I uploaded on Youtube as a sample.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=hHKlyjh7CSM&v=1WTwRCnXeQA

Thulani
2010-02-20, 03:51 PM
You/We can't if you don't know the equipment & the software (if any) used to record the show.

The Sixth Rat Packer
2010-02-20, 03:53 PM
You/We can't if you don't know the equipment & the software (if any) used to record the show.

Well I just need to know what lineage to put on the torrent submission.

In the past Lynn has helped with that type of thing. I'm clueless when it comes to all this technical stuff.

rspencer
2010-02-20, 05:44 PM
We need more info. Where did you get it? What format? What, if anything, have you done to it? Etc.

The Sixth Rat Packer
2010-02-20, 05:46 PM
We need more info. Where did you get it? What format? What, if anything, have you done to it? Etc.

I got it in a trade, and it's exactly as I got it. The dvd when loads up has a still image with a "picture in picture" so to speak of a screengrab.

If you see that youtube clip I posted in the 1st post, it is a clip from that exact show that I ripped to post as an example. I've meant to post this a long time ago but things got in the way and I've been away for awhile.

It IS a Pro-Shot show and it's an NTSC coding

schmoe75
2010-02-20, 08:32 PM
The dvd when loads up has a still image with a "picture in picture" so to speak of a screengrab.
From the stats, no chapters & the quote, it sounds like a standalone capture, but it's also NTSC from a PAL country? Email the person you got it from, and ask them if they know anything about the lineage. With no more info than I got it in a trade, it's not seedable here, sorry.

Thulani
2010-02-21, 04:30 AM
To me it looks more like a screen feed. I mean, it has those very big close ups that you can only see at a concert on the screen.

schmoe75
2010-02-21, 09:38 AM
There are no big screens. It's at the North Sea Jazz Fest (7/10/05) and they stuck him right where he belongs, in a tiny venue.

The Sixth Rat Packer
2010-02-21, 04:19 PM
There are no big screens. It's at the North Sea Jazz Fest (7/10/05) and they stuck him right where he belongs, in a tiny venue.

wow....dislike hip hop much?

schmoe75
2010-02-21, 04:32 PM
Last time I checked, hip hop was not jazz :hmm:
It's at the North Sea Jazz Fest

The Sixth Rat Packer
2010-02-21, 04:38 PM
Last time I checked, hip hop was not jazz :hmm:

What does that have to do with anything? :hmm:

The festival has grown to fifteen stages, 1200 artists and about 25,000 visitors a day. The festival is known worldwide for the many music styles it presents, from traditional New Orleans jazz to Swing, bebop, fusion, blues, gospel music, funk music, soul music and drum n bass.

Besides, Common has incoporated a lot of jazz type influences into his music.

schmoe75
2010-02-21, 04:45 PM
What does that have to do with anything?
The fact it's a Jazz Festival where actual Jazz Musicians play the big halls...I don't see hip hop in that list of genre's you quoted. He's lucky to have even been invited.

Kalhoun
2010-02-21, 04:48 PM
The show I posted:

Townes Van Zandt
11/10/96
Steinenhaus,
Solingen, Germany

source: sbd dat
Jerry Moore's clone

lineage: sbd>dats
transfer/seed by Rob Berger 1/12/10

Was listed as not meeting lineage requirements and referenced CDRs. This was a DAT recording to FLAC conversion.

My info (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1363994#post1363994) was the exact same as:

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=79076

the other Townes Van Zandt posting that was here so I'm a little confused why the standards have changed. I don't have any further information about lineage in terms of equipment used.

The Sixth Rat Packer
2010-02-21, 04:51 PM
I was wondering the same, as I've posted several torrents that I didn't know the lineage to, and Lynne pointed out what it should be, after seeing screenshots or sample footage.

But I wasn't going to push the matter. Not a big deal, I just won't be able to upload it.

The Sixth Rat Packer
2010-02-21, 04:52 PM
What does that have to do with anything?
The fact it's a Jazz Festival where actual Jazz Musicians play the big halls...I don't see hip hop in that list of genre's you quoted. He's lucky to have even been invited.

lol. Alrighty then. While we're at it, let's go back and fix the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and cleanse it of it's evil vile hip hop acts that have gotten in. :lol4:

schmoe75
2010-02-21, 04:58 PM
They should be removed, along with all the bull shit pop musicians in there...just shows what a joke that place is :down:

daddyray
2010-02-21, 05:03 PM
Common invented jazz didn't he? God people here need to learn their revisionist history asap.

AAR.oner
2010-02-21, 05:09 PM
What does that have to do with anything?
The fact it's a Jazz Festival where actual Jazz Musicians play the big halls...I don't see hip hop in that list of genre's you quoted. He's lucky to have even been invited.

schmoe schmoe schmoe :disbelief

hip hop could be associated with quite a few of the genres that were listed: fusion, funk, soul...and if it weren't for hip hop, there'd definitely be no drum n bass

that said, common is a lot closer to soul jazz than he is hip hop these days...he shoulda never dropped the sense, thats when it all started goin downhill for me ;)

AAR.oner
2010-02-21, 05:11 PM
lol. Alrighty then. While we're at it, let's go back and fix the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and cleanse it of it's evil vile hip hop acts that have gotten in. :lol4:

They should be removed, along with all the bull shit pop musicians in there...just shows what a joke that place is :down:

you do realize the jazz afficionados of the day said the same about Miles and a slew of other greats

schmoe75
2010-02-21, 05:41 PM
if it weren't for hip hop, there'd definitely be no drum n bass
Are you serious? 70/80s fusion, Cobham/Johnson, white/clarke, multiple WR drumz/Jaco :disbelief

AAR.oner
2010-02-22, 08:31 AM
no hip hop, no DJing...no DJing, then no drum n bass, jungle , house, trance, etc etc

Thulani
2010-02-22, 08:35 AM
You forgot about the whistles.

AAR.oner
2010-02-22, 12:31 PM
:lol4: and the lighters, can't forget those

WHERE MY LIGHTAHS AT?! LIGHTAH CREW?! JUNGLE MASSIVE!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8afGLM3Jvg




:rockin: :wook:

AAR.oner
2010-02-22, 12:34 PM
forgot how good that break is, the piano buildup halfway in, and then the bass drops...WICKED!!!
ahhh the good ol days :lol:

Kalhoun
2010-02-24, 09:02 PM
I have a fabulous, classic FM Tubes show from 1978 with very poor lineage. I would like to share it if it will be acceptable. This is what we have on it:

Glasshouse 11
Cowboy Fee & The Heifer's Dream
AKA - The Tubes
Keystone, Palo Alto, CA - 20th November 1978

01 - intro
02 - ghost riders in the sky
03 - rawhide
04 - baba 'riley
05 - the kids are alright
06 - proud to be an american
07 - i remember you
08 - haunted house
09 - the man who shot liberty valance
10 - tumbin' tumbleweeds
11 - el paso
12 - california dreaming
13 - white punks on dope
14 - the last time


All tracks taken from radio broadcast ?th gen recording.

Artwork is included.

and .........

Cowboy Fee & The Heifer's Dream
AKA - The Tubes
The Keystone
Palo Alto, CA USA
November 20, 1978
FM broadcast

Setlist & Fingerprints -

Track 01 - Introduction.flac:1ca63045755e0fe41f0480309ecec9f3
Track 02 - Unknown Song.flac:34ea5534441404f69e22b9ed3a63c5ef
Track 03 - Ghost Riders In The Sky.flac:ac7f0e0fbaef16d6ab3236994f6240dd
Track 04 - Rawhide.flac:5f70eb21afd634986dab0d426d0ac131
Track 05 - Baba O'Riley.flac:221fa913b961406c2902f42fba324f40
Track 06 - The Kids Are Alright.flac:52e450a63f219c07b941314ac6edbcb4
Track 07 - Proud To Be An American.flac:c3df07b8a2cf7eaf4eb27486e1eb8ca1
Track 08 - I Remember You.flac:776ff4532f870fccb946af1a61251da4
Track 09 - Haunted House.flac:2c80ca5a48a879f24e6eac0949c64460
Track 10 - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.flac:81e702c4c275204da9fb86adfe8dcedf
Track 11 - Tumblin' Tumbleweeds.flac:c96dcc9e79f700e228651e17698c86ff
Track 12 - El Paso.flac:1a6ab75d595f77460c2201d696825d9f
Track 13 - California Dreamin'.flac:97fc3614d0b967b3f4995884259676f2
Track 14 - White Punks On Dope.flac:7c622c8e3921b0c397372c320d1b1f3c
Track 15 - The Last Time.flac:66fc8bbf2d10ca602799b7aad15d2f39

Lineage -

Original flac files >
Flac Frontend (flac to wav) >
Cakewalk Pyro 2005 (retracked wav files here) >
Trader's Little Helper (new wav files to flac,
encode level 8, aligned on sector boundaries)

One CD, 15 tracks, TT: 51:57
Excellent minus to excellent FM broadcast recording.
9-9.5/10 IMHO, as always.
This sounds to me like the complete show.

All tracks originally taken from radio broadcast ?th gen recording.
I originally downloaded this from STG (?) in December 2004.

Not much to say on this one. I am upping this as a request from TheCommish.
This is a hilarious set from the Tubes masquerading as a country-western band.
The only two things that I did to this file set was to retrack it for accuracy
and to split the final track into two tracks, as The Last Time was hidden
within WPOD. That's all I did. This is a great-sounding FM broadcast and will
be loved by all Tubes fans everywhere. That's about all I have to talk about,
so let's wrap this thing up....

____________________________

Not much else can be added. The web site referred to in the docs is no longer in operations. It's a great show and I'd love to share it if I can.

Kalhoun

AAR.oner
2010-02-25, 10:14 AM
so the lineage would be:
FM > ? > flac [2004 STG seed] > Flac Frontend > wav > Cakewalk Pyro 2005 (retracked wav files here) > Trader's Little Helper > flac (encode level 8, aligned on sector boundaries)


i'd say probly not allowed, but i'll allow one of the ABT mods to make the final call

shopkin
2010-03-02, 10:59 AM
haha ahahahaha ahaha..........:lol:

commander_hg
2010-03-03, 01:42 PM
Ha ha ha ha ha, this is sooooooo funny .... cheers, a lot!