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range_hood
2005-06-04, 12:59 PM
Here is some kind of version history of the Atrac codec used in MiniDisc devices.
(Which ATRAC chips are in which MD units? minidisk.org faq (http://www.minidisc.org/minidisc_faq.html#_q33), version table (http://www.minidisc.org/atrac_versions.html))

ATRAC-Version (release year) - [bitrate] - {frequency response}
ATRAC1-version 1.0 (1992) - [292 kbit/s] - {15kHz}
ATRAC1-version 2 (1994) - [292 kbit/s] - {18kHz}
ATRAC1-version 3 (1995) - [292 kbit/s] - {18kHz}
ATRAC1-version 3.5 (1996) - [292 kbit/s] - {18kHz}
ATRAC1-version 4 (1996) - [292 kbit/s] - {20kHz}
ATRAC1-version 4.5 (MD-Decks; 1996) - [292 kbit/s] - {20kHz}
ATRAC3-version 1.0 (MDLP) (2000) - [132/105/66 kbit/s]
ATRAC1- DSP Type-R (2001) - [292 kbit/s] - {20kHz}
ATRAC1- DSP Type-S (2002) - [292 kbit/s]
ATRAC3plus (2003) - [256/64/48 kbit/s] - {20kHz/?/?}


Atrac3 (MD-LP)

I found the codec at minidisc.org (http://www.minidisc.org/mdlpfaq.html#_q73). Samples also taken from there.

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Notes:
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2. This audio codec was assembled from publicly available bits on the Web and hence may not represent the ATRAC3 codec Sony currently supplies with their MDLP and MemoryStick audio devices. It is supplied for educational purposes only, please address all questions about commercial use and licensing of ATRAC3 to [email protected].

range_hood
2005-06-07, 10:49 AM
right channel only.

range_hood
2005-07-07, 03:58 AM
DSP Type-R SP

range_hood
2005-07-07, 04:05 AM
ATRAC3plus Hi-SP (256kbit/s)

range_hood
2005-07-26, 06:19 AM
Atrac1 version 4 (Sony MZ-R55)

JeanineMcphillips
2011-03-29, 10:50 AM
Hi

Nice work and thanks for providing history of version of the Atrac codec.
Its really helpful :lol:

Lucifer burns
2013-01-03, 10:39 AM
What about Hi-MD Minidisc Masters???

Drgiggles1
2013-01-04, 09:26 AM
What about Hi-MD Minidisc Masters???
If you send me one wav file via a free file sharing site I'll take a look at the spectral and give you my thoughts. Shit, i'll even post it up on the forum for mods to chime in.

Lucifer burns
2013-01-06, 08:24 PM
^ sure that would be awesome!!
send me over your e-mail address in a PM.

Drgiggles1
2013-01-09, 04:26 PM
^ sure that would be awesome!!
send me over your e-mail address in a PM.
Here are 5 flacs that Lucifer burns sent to me that were converted to WAV without error and zoomed in on 2 seconds. FA's and SA's analyzed with CEP in black and white.
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww335/DrGiggles1/01fmmrt01introwav.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww335/DrGiggles1/02fmmrt02Landof1000Nightswav.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww335/DrGiggles1/03fmmrt03HesCallingwav.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww335/DrGiggles1/04fmmrt04RedHousewav.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww335/DrGiggles1/05fmmrt05SomethingsComingOurWaywav.jpg

Need opinions if these are LPCM mode mini disc recordings. I believe them to be LPCM and not ATRAC.

jacksmith
2013-06-19, 01:00 AM
Thanks for sharing information and images,your information and images increasing my knowledge.

paddington
2013-06-19, 12:47 PM
please post spectral analysis in color.

range_hood
2014-02-19, 08:51 AM
Re: Need opinions if these are LPCM mode mini disc recordings. I believe them to be LPCM and not ATRAC.
please post spectral analysis in color.
and maybe a 10 seconds snippet in flac format.
... plus the known lineage, concert date (artist).

There seem to be digital artifacts in there.

Lucifer burns
2019-05-11, 12:09 AM
It's a shame this continues to keep me from uploading ANY Hi-MD Minidisc Master recordings here.

But i constantly see "officially" released material shared here and NOT Banned !!!

dorrcoq
2019-05-11, 07:52 PM
It's a shame this continues to keep me from uploading ANY Hi-MD Minidisc Master recordings here.

But i constantly see "officially" released material shared here and NOT Banned !!!

"this restriction does not affect shows taped to Hi-MD using the uncompressed wav format"

So...what's your problem?

Lucifer burns
2019-05-12, 04:10 AM
"this restriction does not affect shows taped to Hi-MD using the uncompressed wav format"

So...what's your problem?

See above , and everytime i upload a MD Master of mine from 2008 or newer it gets removed.