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graceadelica
2009-09-20, 02:40 PM
A new CD by an established artist has just been released and some of the demo's (recorded within the last 4 years at a top end studio) sound mp3 like to me(swishy sound on high frequencies). I've added some images - anyone able to confirm or deny?

graceadelica
2009-09-20, 02:42 PM
And screenshot of whole song.

lintoni
2009-09-20, 02:56 PM
Certainly looks like mp3 to me. Just to clarify, these demos came on a bonus disc with the regular cd issue? The regular cd is not lossy?

graceadelica
2009-09-20, 03:08 PM
It's from a double CD set of previously released b-sides a new demos. Some of the material sounds/looks fine, but there's a set of demos produced by one particular person and a couple of other previously unreleased things that sound like shit.

lintoni
2009-09-20, 03:16 PM
Are you going to name the cd/artist?

Five
2009-09-20, 04:28 PM
that's lossy for sure.

looks like atrac 66kbps lp4 (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8003) to me. recorded on a minidisc at the worst possible setting :rolleyes:

graceadelica
2009-09-20, 05:13 PM
Cheers for confirmation. It's from a CD a band called I Am Kloot have just/are about to release (it was available at the gigs before it's official release next month - it's a properly pressed CD) called B and is being released via a record label the bassist is involved in. You'd have to wonder why whoever mastered them didn't pick up on it.

Five
2009-09-20, 05:58 PM
I bought a local artist's cd one time and found it to be minidisc-sourced... probably one of those portable 4-track md studios they released a while ago. at least the dude used the highest quality setting available. sounded god-awful swish swish :rolleyes:

anyhow what I'm saying is this label must be a very small label starting out if they can't even get this straight.

graceadelica
2009-09-20, 07:07 PM
It is a small label, but that doesn't really excuse it, when obviously full quality versions exist.

What's ridiculous is that the guy who produced the tracks co-owns the studio (which has been used by people like Elbow, The Verve, Johnny Marr, Badly Drawn Boy, Doves, The Cribs etc) and has toured with the band, so they're in regular contact. You'd think they'd be working with proper masters.

E_rock
2009-09-20, 08:31 PM
Yikes.

lintoni
2009-09-21, 04:56 AM
looks like atrac 66kbps lp4 (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8003) to me. recorded on a minidisc at the worst possible setting :rolleyes:

Five -- atrac lp4 - the occasional spikes above the trimmed hedge in the unzoomed in spectrum?

Five
2009-09-21, 05:28 AM
I think I can see deep rectangular grooves, its a little hard to see. could be some variation of mp3 or something on second thought.

check the lp4 pics scroll down a bit here to see the similarity
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8003

compare with whatever cd you can reach... there is something very wrong (lossy) about this one imo.

if graceadelica is still around and wants to pass a sample my way I could take a closer look & am curious to listen.

graceadelica
2009-09-21, 10:42 AM
Uploaded a sample (flac from wav) here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/283055833/iak.flac.html

lintoni
2009-09-21, 12:18 PM
I think I can see deep rectangular grooves, its a little hard to see. could be some variation of mp3 or something on second thought.

check the lp4 pics scroll down a bit here to see the similarity
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8003

compare with whatever cd you can reach... there is something very wrong (lossy) about this one imo.

if graceadelica is still around and wants to pass a sample my way I could take a closer look & am curious to listen.

:lol4: "deep rectangular grooves" just about covers it. Thanks for the lesson, and thanks to graceadelica for the sample.

Five
2009-09-22, 05:26 PM
thanks for the closeup

seeing it more closely, I actually think it is straight mp3 128kbps cbr. not md, the blocks of MD look like tie fighters / much less "splattering".