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deivas77
2009-02-13, 04:51 AM
Hi,
this is Dave Gahan 2003.11.24 Milan [MD4].I know, that was used Sony MD(no more info). And I saw, that other trader have this show at MD1 generation with comment:"It looks like MP3, but NOT for sure. I had the master from taper... It`s LP4 mode!!"
Anybody can help me? It`s lossless or mp3 sourced? Sorry, bad question- it`s really can be LP4 mode or mp3 sourced?

paddington
2009-02-13, 05:41 AM
that is definately lossy.

great job on the screenshots, that is exactly the view needed to analyze.

no way to be sure what compression codec was used, but it looks like MP3 to me. Bad mp3, like 128k or even 96k, maybe. The 14 kHz brickwall is abnormally low and it is very blocky. There's a lot of artificial sound in there.

deivas77
2009-02-13, 05:54 AM
jameskg,
thanks for answer, but in "Bad mp3, like 128k or even 96k" I see "lego". But here...maybe some noise reduction? I just don`t want to believe, that it`s mp3 :)

paddington
2009-02-13, 05:57 AM
no way.
That's lossy data compression. Probably digital NR, too and God knows what else.. that is ugly audio for something recorded in the current century.

I'm sorry to bear the bad news.

deivas77
2009-02-13, 06:11 AM
it`s funny, but TLH test for mpeg shows, that it`s cdda :lol:

paddington
2009-02-13, 06:17 AM
The author of TLH is here at TTD... maybe he can have a look at why that result would be returned. Maybe it's just seeing 44.1k / 16b or something. Doesn't matter.. it's been molested, or recorded with a lossy recorder.

deivas77
2009-02-13, 06:42 AM
what you`re thinking about this? at 2sec shot I see "lego", but no cut in one line like mp3...(it`s other show)

rspencer
2009-02-13, 12:16 PM
LP4 minidisc recording is very lossy to allow so much time per disc. Not MP3, but no better really.

Xontar
2009-04-27, 12:35 PM
LP4 is 66kbps ATRAC3, according to wikipedia.

Five
2009-05-01, 01:02 PM
TLH's 'detect mp3' function (audcdtect) is not reliable...

old thread I know but I'll pitch in both are very obviously lossy. appears to be lower-quality md setting on the 1st, 2nd is strange since it goes up to 22050Hz but blocky blocky blocky lossy!

deivas77
2009-05-06, 06:18 PM
TLH's 'detect mp3' function (audcdtect) is not reliable...

old thread I know but I'll pitch in both are very obviously lossy. appears to be lower-quality md setting on the 1st, 2nd is strange since it goes up to 22050Hz but blocky blocky blocky lossy!

about 2nd: maybe reason is for very high generation copy? source was tape...

paddington
2009-05-07, 12:47 AM
TLH's 'detect mp3' function (audcdtect) is not reliable...

old thread I know but I'll pitch in both are very obviously lossy. appears to be lower-quality md setting on the 1st, 2nd is strange since it goes up to 22050Hz but blocky blocky blocky lossy!

about 2nd: maybe reason is for very high generation copy? source was tape...


understand: it's been through very, very lossy digital compression. Three months' time passage doesn't bring back the lost audio data :lol:

Five
2009-05-12, 03:35 AM
yeah, lossy is in there for sure could have cassette as well who knows its a really weird one.