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bvm
2005-12-24, 12:18 PM
Is it deemed acceptable to use Windows Media Audio 9.1 Lossless for torrents posted up here??

I would use FLAC, but I hate Winamp, all my media is on WMP, and I cant be bothered to do anything about it, so can i use Windows Media Audio 9.1 Lossless, as far as I can see, there shouldnt be a problem (cept people have an aversion to Windows), it does also use VBR and suppots Tagging and playlist files.

Can I do it??
Five
2005-12-24, 01:41 PM
if this thread goes on for pages with ppl asking us to allow windows media lossless we will consider it

personally, I cringe at the thought of allowing ms lossless (or apple lossless for that matter)

for now its SHN/FLAC/APE (preferrably FLAC)

try out foobar2000 ... get the special installer, choose full installation.
Gizby
2005-12-24, 03:01 PM
Say, has any more consideration been given to WavPack (http://www.wavpack.com/)? It seems like it meets all the criteria.
Five
2005-12-24, 06:04 PM
last I remember we were waiting for full support from shntool followed (of course) by xact and tlh.

wavpack is on the horizon...
Gizby
2005-12-24, 06:14 PM
Ah, that's right. It's been a year and a half since shntool was updated. Do we know if a new release is approaching?
brimstone
2005-12-25, 09:16 AM
Is it deemed acceptable to use Windows Media Audio 9.1 Lossless for torrents posted up here??

I would use FLAC, but I hate Winamp, all my media is on WMP, and I cant be bothered to do anything about it, so can i use Windows Media Audio 9.1 Lossless, as far as I can see, there shouldnt be a problem (cept people have an aversion to Windows), it does also use VBR and suppots Tagging and playlist files.

Can I do it??

I don't think that it would be a good idea because of cross platform support. I know APE has a bit of the same problem but I think it's ok to allow it because it's quite widespread. I have uploaded som APE torrents in the past but I have decided not to do it anymore.

You can still play FLAC with WMP if you get Ogg codecs for windows (http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/) but I don't think it supports metadata that well.
ssamadhi97
2005-12-26, 06:32 AM
Another alternative would be the CoreFLAC (http://corecodec.org/projects/coreflac) DirectShow-based decoder. Dunno about metadata, but honestly, basically you get what you ask for by using WiMP :p

"Friends don't let friends use WMA Lossless." ;)
alchemy71085
2005-12-29, 11:10 PM
Isn't it all just a matter of compressing something using MS lossless (cringe), decoding back to .wav, and then using EAC's compare wave feature to make sure it matches back up to the original file ?
Five
2005-12-30, 01:31 PM
that's one way, or you could generate st5 from the original wav, encode to ms lossless, then decode to wav in a temp folder and generate another st5 from that and compare, then delete the temp folder. pain in the ass when all is said & done.
ssamadhi97
2005-12-31, 08:28 PM
Isn't it all just a matter of compressing something using MS lossless (cringe), decoding back to .wav, and then using EAC's compare wave feature to make sure it matches back up to the original file ?
On Windows, maybe. On other platforms?

Software support for WMA lossless by interesting players and tools is very limited, and the format itself offers no real benefit except for being usable with MS' turd of a player. No speed gains, no compression gains, no nothing.

I can't imagine why anyone should have to put up with this ... format just because someone else can't be arsed to check out decent formats (and software).
alchemy71085
2005-12-31, 09:47 PM
On Windows, maybe. On other platforms?

Software support for WMA lossless by interesting players and tools is very limited, and the format itself offers no real benefit except for being usable with MS' turd of a player. No speed gains, no compression gains, no nothing.

I can't imagine why anyone should have to put up with this ... format just because someone else can't be arsed to check out decent formats (and software).

Hey nobody said I actually like WMP or WMP lossless. That's 180 degrees away from my personal opinion. I'm a Winamp user as a matter of fact. :wave:

About the platforms, I have no idea, as I only have Windows XP SP2.
bvm
2006-01-02, 10:33 AM
Yeh me too, I do actually use FLAC for all my show dlds, its just my collection is stored in WMA lossless before I knew of FLAC's existence. But thanks for the replies, I'll take it as a no!
livedead13
2006-01-02, 12:11 PM
try out foobar2000 ... get the special installer, choose full installation.
Everyone should do this. Seriously!