are these shots mp3??

[chunga1]

can't tell..this show was remastered and i can't tell if this is normal or he used an Mp3 source for missing tunes.
thank's for any help

[ssamadhi97]

Looks rather suspicious. Could you please check out the spectrum in CoolEdit / Audition or provide a short clip for us to look at?

[chunga1]

i don't have those programs..I just use EAC....can i get those free??

[range_hood]

http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Cool-Edit-Pro-Download-2076.html

[Five]

can't see much from those shots... please post a clip with yousendit.com or rapidshare.de if you could and/or get CEP from the link range_hood posted... also look here (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4288) for more info and links.

[chunga1]

is this what your after??? this is a shot using cooledit

[chunga1]

here is al ink to this song as a zip .wav file..

http://s63.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=19W4UT5M6OEQL1G6WVIWS41VQT

i hope this is what you're after.

thank's for your help..This was remeastered and most likely put through an equalizer to cut hiss or something so maybe thats why it looks like that.. :hmm:

[paddington]

not mp3 I do not think.

however, the view we're looking for in CEP is spectrum view. Press the top middle button on the bar above the diplay that switches it. I think 5 likes about a 2-3 sec view.

[chunga1]

is this cool

[paddington]

hee hee, yes that would be it, but you clipped off the frequency scales on the right! :lol

[Five]

the sample looks & sounds lossless to me :thumbsup

[chunga1]

thank's guys i really appreciate it...

[range_hood]

Looks lossy encoded (with an to me unknown codec). Notice the metallic sound most noticeable in the rather "silent" parts at the beginning and the end.
Also the white in the shot below is too clear (gamma value is 0.2). The blocks induced by the codec are finer than the ones of an mp3 but they are here.
What show is this?

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6100/unknownshow4xa.png

[mort]

so once again there is no agreement on what is or is not mp3 sourced

like chasing shadows !

lmfao


wait till you see the sa of an 48khz 24 bit mp3

then your heads will spin around like a scene from the excorist

[ssamadhi97]

wait till you see the sa of an 48khz 24 bit mp3

MP3s have no inherent resolution, and whether the input or output file is 16 or 24 bit doesn't matter, mostly thanks to the quantization noise introduced by the encoder.

Additionally, both the ear model and the limitations that make mp3 so horribly inefficient at high-frequency content above 16kHz are just the same, no matter whether you're encoding a 44.1kHz or a 48kHz source.

So all in all, the sa "fingerprint" of a 48kHz "24bit" mp3 looks just like that of a 44.1kHz "16bit" mp3, only with slightly shorter blocks and "more nothing going on" at the top of the spectrum.

[freezer]

Looks like the sky is falling all over again...... :lmao:


wait till you see the sa of an 48khz 24 bit mp3



MP3s have no inherent resolution, and whether the input or output file is 16 or 24 bit doesn't matter, mostly thanks to the quantization noise introduced by the encoder.

Additionally, both the ear model and the limitations that make mp3 so horribly inefficient at high-frequency content above 16kHz are just the same, no matter whether you're encoding a 44.1kHz or a 48kHz source.

So all in all, the sa "fingerprint" of a 48kHz "24bit" mp3 looks just like that of a 44.1kHz "16bit" mp3, only with slightly shorter blocks and "more nothing going on" at the top of the spectrum.


Good answer, good answer..... :D


Now the question is: IF a particular show is circulated in mp3 and it's ONLY available in mp3, how desirable is it, especially if it's 25 years old or more?



......like chasing shadows !


.........heads will spin around like a scene from the excorist...


So Mort/ninja aren't YOU still the King of mp3?



Sorry Mort, it looks like ol' ssam just told you...but good...

[Five]

Looks lossy encoded (with an to me unknown codec). Notice the metallic sound most noticeable in the rather "silent" parts at the beginning and the end.
Also the white in the shot below is too clear (gamma value is 0.2). The blocks induced by the codec are finer than the ones of an mp3 but they are here.
What show is this?

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6100/unknownshow4xa.png
good eye!

chunga1, what show is this? :hmm:

[chunga1]

it;s stevie wonder live in jamaica 10-4-75..I checked bob's set and it looks fine but stevies looks like this..

so is this MP3 or Not

[range_hood]

I don´t know...

Three users at db.etree.org (http://db.etree.org/lookup_show.php?shows_key=100995&show_users=true) list this as "AUD > ? > DAT > CD-R"
We have some sort of flipped mirror image (in case this being thru 32kHz DAT), but not as "nice" as I've seen before. I wonder if there's a codec capable of encoding such weak signals, that there's a mirror image left after encoding... :hmm:
sshamadhi?

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/1948/clip5ke.png
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/7813/clip23is.png

[mort]

Looks like the sky is falling all over again...... :lmao:









Good answer, good answer..... :D


Now the question is: IF a particular show is circulated in mp3 and it's ONLY available in mp3, how desirable is it, especially if it's 25 years old or more?






So Mort/ninja aren't YOU still the King of mp3?



Sorry Mort, it looks like ol' ssam just told you...but good...



DONT KNOW NINJA BUT IM THE KING OF YOU YOU CAN BET YOUR LOSER ASS ON THAT

[mort]

I Would Highly Reccomend Listen To Music With Your Ears

Not Your Eyes !

[freezer]

So are you OR are you not ninja?

Make up your minds.... :hmm:

[mort]

Time To Thaw

Dont You Think !

[freezer]

Are these shots mp3s?

How about a couple of shots to your many chins, moMort?

:lol :lol :lol

[mort]

Are these shots mp3s?

How about a couple of shots to your many chins, moMort?

:lol :lol :lol



YOU DONT HAVE THE BALLS

[mort]

MP3s have no inherent resolution, and whether the input or output file is 16 or 24 bit doesn't matter, mostly thanks to the quantization noise introduced by the encoder.

Additionally, both the ear model and the limitations that make mp3 so horribly inefficient at high-frequency content above 16kHz are just the same, no matter whether you're encoding a 44.1kHz or a 48kHz source.

So all in all, the sa "fingerprint" of a 48kHz "24bit" mp3 looks just like that of a 44.1kHz "16bit" mp3, only with slightly shorter blocks and "more nothing going on" at the top of the spectrum.




YOU COULD BE MORE WRONG BUT I DONT KNOW HOW !

[range_hood]

I Would Highly Reccomend Listen To Music With Your Ears

Not Your Eyes !To me this sounds overdriven, besides the metallic sound. This is mono too. I don't know much Stevie Wonder concerts (this is my first part of), but if I'm a fan of an artist and the show has some sort of "value" (f. e. I attended the concert), I would definitely look for the best version around - this includes examining different sources by eyes.
I respect the others out there searching for best versions of "their" shows.

Here's the same sample from page 1. I flaced it for you, so it's only 11MB, in case you're not on broadband. What do you think about this recording?
http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2SLZ4WR37OJ8B2SR1WXQIDWTH0

[mort]

I Hope To Hell That Everyone Realizes That Im Just Fucking With You All

Of Course Sa/fa Can Tell Mp3 From Wav But Can The Ear Tell The Differance !