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Old 2010-11-16, 08:46 AM
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BUT some of my concert recordings now circulate with ALL stage announcements removed (Lou Reed 11081974), with wrong information purposefully added to the description (Robert Palmer 111776), some circulate with wrong dates now purposefully added (Moody Blues 1978), incorrect venues (Rolling Stones 060175), gaps between each song (Clapton 1974), set lists altered (Clapton 1976 Baton Rouge), missing songs (Rolling Stones 1975, Led Zeppelin 02281975, Clapton1976), songs from other shows edited in, seeders adding throughly wrong information ON purpose (Stones 1975)........nobody gets upset about that, right?

So why is this watermark different than someone who re-eqs a show that was already poorly eq-ed to begin with? Don't most of you already delete versions you don't like anyway?
Because no-one would know about these alterations unless you told us. Nobody can get upset about a missing song unless they know it's missing.

This is different because we know it's there, and because we know it's been deliberately tacked on to a tape where we all know it doesn't belong.
WRONG, my friend.


The fellow who edited out all the stage announcements on the Lou Reed 110874 show did announce what he'd done.

So did the fellow who fucked with the Robert Palmer, and the goofus who diddled on the Moofy Blued dfd like wise.

And all did so after snatching the show from TTD.

All shows wrer complete from the master and then the people who fucked with those shows did so thinking they were doing the right thing.

Who am I to tell 'em not to?

Only the taper.

Did I voice my displeasure?

Sure as fuck did....it did no good at all.
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Looks like nobody gives a fuck after they all were served the un-watermarked version ON DEMAND.


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Old 2010-11-19, 10:48 AM
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Looks like nobody gives a fuck after they all were served the un-watermarked version ON DEMAND.
Well, I've been working. How 'bout you?

My view hasn't changed, even though I haven't posted since the un-watermarked version was uploaded, so there was no real need for further comment on my part.

Nice to know you still care, though.
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Well, I've been working. How 'bout you?

My view hasn't changed, even though I haven't posted since the un-watermarked version was uploaded, so there was no real need for further comment on my part.

Nice to know you still care, though.
It's still a big fucking joke to me, especially when watching the rampant entitlement issues on this site.
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Old 2010-11-22, 05:14 PM
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Because I've been ripped off many times in the past by so-called progressive rock
restoration groups, and because sales of my mixes have been reported in such far-flung and
exotic locations as Atlanta and Japan
, you will find an "audio watermark" in this recording.
This watermark will definitively identify this version of this recording as having been mixed
by me. Others who want to use this mix will have to deal with it. They should, after all, go
to the original tape and not use my work as the foundation for theirs. The watermark is
designed to be difficult to remove. I feel this is a small price for downloaders to pay for
two hours of total Yes music enjoyment. It only occurs once and then it's over.
I don't understand.
How is he getting ripped off? If he does find that someone is selling a mix, he mixed, because of the watermark, what can he do about it? Take them to court because he has proof he owns the recording? The only thing that makes sense to me is he wants some kind of adulation for what he has done.
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Old 2010-11-22, 09:48 PM
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Because I've been ripped off many times in the past by so-called progressive rock restoration groups, and because sales of my mixes have been reported in such far-flung and exotic locations as Atlanta and Japan, you will find an "audio watermark" in this recording.

This watermark will definitively identify this version of this recording as having been mixed by me. Others who want to use this mix will have to deal with it. They should, after all, go to the original tape and not use my work as the foundation for theirs. The watermark is designed to be difficult to remove. I feel this is a small price for downloaders to pay for two hours of total Yes music enjoyment. It only occurs once and then it's over.
I don't understand.
How is he getting ripped off? If he does find that someone is selling a mix, he mixed, because of the watermark, what can he do about it? Take them to court because he has proof he owns the recording? The only thing that makes sense to me is he wants some kind of adulation for what he has done.
Spe, for once you and I agree, but step back and look at the entire picture --- - - - this is also most definitely about 'someone' being unable to get what he wanted "ON DEMAND" immediately. Then freaking out over it.

That's why it's all a big fucking joke to me.

The recording that Tooleman put the watermark on is in circulation already anyway. Has been for years.

The easiest thing to do was just ignore this "Tooleman" version altogether and just take a deep breath and and wait five minutes until you can get an unblemished version without the marking.

It was just that easy....... this is all "much ado about nothing" -- right?

Step back and think about this.......... Within 5 years there'll be 52 competing versions available anyway.


It ain't gonna change the price of rice in China so who cares?
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Old 2010-11-22, 09:58 PM
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what a bunch of shit.
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Old 2010-11-22, 10:02 PM
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Spe, for once you and I agree, but step back and look at the entire picture --- - - - this is also most definitely about 'someone' being unable to get what he wanted "ON DEMAND" immediately. Then freaking out over it.

No, that is not at all what this is about.
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Old 2010-11-22, 11:53 PM
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what a bunch of shit.
No, it's exactly what happened, and you're the Queen of Denial, Groucho.




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Spe, for once you and I agree, but step back and look at the entire picture --- - - - this is also most definitely about 'someone' being unable to get what he wanted "ON DEMAND" immediately. Then freaking out over it.

No, that is not at all what this is about.
Another TTD mod/parrot checks in.

It's exactly all that happened.

You'll allow 52 different remasters if they ALL are on different "silver bootlegs", and you've already said as much.

Why don't you two guys get your stories straight? At least one time?


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Old 2010-11-23, 12:01 AM
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I deny nothing. I don't even know what you're talking about... this is still a bunch of shit.


Audio "watermarks" that are audible in normal listening are asinine.
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I deny nothing. I don't even know what you're talking about... this is still a bunch of shit.
You guys will allow that Toolemen remaster if Godfather releases it as a silver bootleg, and you know you will.

You always said that all silver boots are allowable as "Source zero" as you two have proudly proclaimed in the past.

You and Billy the Bullet have said as much in the past. R E P E A T E D L Y said so.

Anything else and that makes you the Queen of Denial, James-KY
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Old 2010-11-23, 12:36 AM
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I deny nothing. I don't even know what you're talking about... this is still a bunch of shit.
You guys will allow that Toolemen remaster if Godfather releases it as a silver bootleg, and you know you will.

You always said that all silver boots are allowable as "Source zero" as you two have proudly proclaimed in the past.

You and Billy the Bullet have said as much in the past. R E P E A T E D L Y said so.

Anything else and that makes you the Queen of Denial, James-KY

We likely would, as long as it wasn't lossy and I'm not denying it.

We give members an opportunity to have bootleg silvers without having to pay, as long as they are not lossy and are extracted properly from the silver.


don't be grumpy

be happy!

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Old 2010-11-23, 12:49 AM
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We likely would, as long as it wasn't lossy and I'm not denying it.

We give members an opportunity to have bootleg silvers without having to pay, as long as they are not lossy and are extracted properly from the silver.


don't be grumpy

be happy!

You finally decided to be truthful, Groucho.... how'd that happen?



That means this dust-up was ONLY about someone's entitlement issues, after all.
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