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Old 2004-11-25, 05:55 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

File Too Large. Limit for this filetype is 97.7 KB. Your file is 266.3 KB.

Yeah could you just PM me an email address to send it to? I don't really know when I'll be on aim since I've been on and off all day at random times since I've been hanging out with the family today.
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Old 2004-11-25, 05:56 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

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I never could find one either, but if you follow this link to another message board, there is a link in the thread. Here is the thread: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthre...threadid=78180

The posters name is CoolAsIceCream and the post is the third last. I hope this helps.
Thank you very much. I've been meaning to try it out for quite some time.
I'll probably be seeding a Minus The Bear show later today or tomorrow, just in case you are interested.
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Old 2004-11-25, 05:58 PM
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Thank you very much. I've been meaning to try it out for quite some time.
I'll probably seeding a Minus The Bear show later today or tomorrow, just in case you are interested.
Whoa awesome! I love Minus The Bear!
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Old 2004-11-25, 07:19 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

this is 100% mp3 sourced. Frank did *not* release a lossy copy ever... and no one else has these songs.
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Old 2004-11-25, 08:08 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

yep not only is it MP3 sourced it sure looks like a mp3 that has been burned to aufio and extracted at least once. If you want to know for sur just ake a look at hideout 1 and compare the 2, but sets were record with the same rig so they should pretty much match.
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Old 2004-11-25, 08:09 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

There's no way those screen caps are from an mp3. I can't comment on what Frank would or wouldn't release, but those are just simply not mp3.
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Old 2004-11-25, 08:20 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

actually now that I look this looks alot like hideout one, minus the ugly bit of noise at the end of the file. It still looks like it's been burned and extracted once to me. but it's kind of hard to tell from the images posted so far.
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Old 2004-11-25, 08:42 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

That spectrogram posted by Punkishlyevil makes me think it was lossy sourced. Note the dark (black) areas on high frequencies, when there is more energy on lower frequencies.

I've attached some screen captures from a MP3 file with a similar spectrogram profile.

But sometimes is hard to tell... ...spectrogram and freq analysis sometimes have unconclusive results...
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Old 2004-11-25, 09:16 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

not MP3, MD. but that little bit at the end bugs me.
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Old 2004-11-25, 09:17 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

Rider, do you want me to send you a clip of the flac? I really hope we can get to the bottom of this.
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Old 2004-11-25, 09:21 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

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Rider, do you want me to send you a clip of the flac? I really hope we can get to the bottom of this.

It's not MP3, it might have some sort of error at the end of that track, but it's not liek we will ever get another source on this.
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Old 2004-11-25, 09:22 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

Since all these pictures were taken from only one track, should I check another from the compilation?
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Old 2004-11-25, 09:51 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

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Since all these pictures were taken from only one track, should I check another from the compilation?

nope volume one looks the same.
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Old 2004-11-25, 10:08 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

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That spectrogram posted by Punkishlyevil makes me think it was lossy sourced. Note the dark (black) areas on high frequencies, when there is more energy on lower frequencies.

I've attached some screen captures from a MP3 file with a similar spectrogram profile.

But sometimes is hard to tell... ...spectrogram and freq analysis sometimes have unconclusive results...
this must be high bitrate. I'd like to see a SA zoomed in to 1.5 seconds if you could...
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Old 2004-11-25, 10:14 PM
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Re: Is this mp3 sourced?

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this must be high bitrate. I'd like to see a SA zoomed in to 1.5 seconds if you could...

once again I have masters from the same set of recordings, they look exatly the same.

This is MD not MP3.
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