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Old 2010-08-11, 04:30 PM
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My dear young friend,

You are ABSOLUTELY never going to be a low-gen Led Zeppelin collector...

I'm not too broke up about it.


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good golly, young Spencer, you need to do a bit more study on the history of the hobby.
I know a bit, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with all of it. In my defense, I probably have spent too much time listening to better bands.


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Will any stealthed recordings that may possibly captured at the Mile High Music Festival be allowed through the auspices of The Trader's Den?
If somebody wants to pony up my airfare, ticket, food & lodging, I'll be happy to find out.
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Old 2010-08-11, 04:34 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

This has to be one of the most retartedly funny threads in a long time
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Old 2010-08-11, 04:34 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

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Gee, now that begs these questions:

Will any stealthed recordings that may possibly captured at the Mile High Music Festival be allowed through the auspices of The Trader's Den?

Considering this may be a wonderful opportunity for some of the 'entitlement crowd' to test their legal rights, will any staff members of TTD be willing to show up this week in a Colorado court to contest AEG's lawsuit?

What a terrific opportunity for some of you folks to put your money where your mouth is.


Jameskg and dcbullet could represent the entire bootlegging industry via their staff positions at TTD, because you can be goddam motherfucking sure that AEG Live's team of attorneys won't make any distinction between "free distribution" and "selling for a profit" in a court of law; the challenge of making the distinction will fall squarely on the defendants shoulders.


Best of luck to James and Billy-Bob!
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"only the plaintiff has the right to sell merchandise bearing the Festival Trademarks at and near the Festival."
I interpret the lawsuit to only have bearing on merchandise like t-shirts etc. that might name the festival not recordings made at the fest

yes, and we always cease and desist when asked - by the owner of the performance - you know, like the BAND or it's management. It's happened a few times and is no big deal.
We have never allowed trading of bands that request not to be traded here. It is their music.
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Old 2010-08-11, 07:09 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

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yes, and we always cease and desist when asked - by the owner of the performance - you know, like the BAND or it's management. It's happened a few times and is no big deal.
We have never allowed trading of bands that request not to be traded here. It is their music.
Yes, absolutely YOU do just that, especially in cases when it's legally released music that's being torrented.... and noticeably you fellas always seem to get it done just in time to so that anyone who is already downloading is able to get their complete, and then you guys most diligently shut it down.

That is very commendable, Jimmy.







However, your wording says that "We never allow trading of bands that request not to be traded here"


How DO you police "trading" ?

I can understand how you police "torrents"....and I can see how you'd be able to police vines and B&P, but how do you police "trading", especially when its one on one snail mail trading?

Are you guys ramdomly opening packages? Are you guys reading private messages? How do you do it?

As anyone can see, the name of the site is "The TRADER'S Den" as opposed to "The TORRENT Den" and we have to surmise that the site was so named to encourage swaping of music no matter what means or media used... and that says stamps and cassettes or even reels are also encouraged

Also, surely the site was so named before you acquired your badge of authority, James, but how do you make sure no one is snail mail trading any non approved items?


Inquiring minds wanna know, please.

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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

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[based on this part

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I interpret the lawsuit to only have bearing on merchandise like t-shirts etc. that might name the festival not recordings made at the fest
Possibly, but it's just as likely that anyone zealous enough in filing a pre-emptive lawsuit would be delighted in bringing action against anyone caught in the act of taping or filming on the Festival's premesis.

OR possibly filing suit against any domestically based B/T site hosting the music after the fact.

rspencer would like to take a shot, but might I suggest that he doesn't inform the Festival promoters before-hand of his intentions nor should he supply them with his name and address once the captures begin to be shared on any domestic B/T site.

Anyway, if they were to file action against this site, we all know who's name would be on the suit, and it ain't jameskg's..........



Those Mile High Music Festival people come across as fucking crazy, and though an individual might prevail in litigation, the real winners in such a lawsuit are ALWAYS the lawyers who get paid 500. per hour.

Much as I admire rspencer, I don't wish to see him spending a single motherfucking cent to prove he's within his rights.


YMMV, homebrew101.... though I feel the same towards you, pal, I don't wanna know bad enough to see you tied up in litigation, ok?
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Old 2010-08-11, 08:21 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

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Old 2010-08-11, 10:23 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

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not really. I don't feel like a cop... or copper...
Copping out means to avoid responsibility.

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never said it was no longer his
You and others implied that.

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just that he no longer has control over it.
You obviously arent a taper so I dont
know why you are even talking about it. Honestly.

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TTD is one of the most taper-friendly sites on the net.
How can you make such a statement when yourself and other Mods have been very anti-taper and surprisingly anti-bootleg as well. Its astonishing.

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We WILL NOT PULL A SHOW BECAUSE SOME GUY DECIDES HE NO LONGER WANTS IT TRADED after he's handed out copies.
Yet you make such a statement that "TTD is one of the most taper-friendly sites on the net."
Regardless of what reason a taper/filmer has for wanting to have a show pulled. You should honor such a request and not ask questions. Thats the type of respect you must show tapers/filmers if you are gonna make such comments that "TTD is taper friendly". I would enforce such a policy at TTD and make it truely "taper friendly".


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Many of us have been where you are
Bullshit. You arent a taper/filmer and you know it.
Didnt you go to Led Zep in London and not even bother taping it?

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but you have to learn you cannot control everything.
The issue is not control. Its about respect and courtesy.


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the shit you are taping doesn't belong to you, anyway.
I think its time for you to stop. Seriously, what
a ridiculous argument to make. For you as a Moderator of a bootleg torrent site to make such an argument its astonishing. People put their ass on the line to record concerts and make them available to people like myself and you
and they deserve every bit of respect for it at the TTD

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Hate to burst your bubble - by rspencer is correct. Once you trade out a recording, you no longer have the "right" to stop it from being circulated!
Quite frankly neither you or Rspencer knows what hes talking about.
Unless you are a taper/filmer you shouldnt really comment.
But the truth is, filmers/tapers have every right to control where, how, or what is done with their recordings, whether they are allowed to circulate,
or whether or not they are torrented or where they are torrented.
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Old 2010-08-11, 10:32 PM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

Circles....thread closed
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Old 2010-08-12, 09:45 AM
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Re: TTD Staff: Why don't you follow your own rules?

damn you schmoe, this was the only interesting thread ina while! delusions of grandeur and complete lack of knowlege are always top notch internet fare

oh well, guess i'll go back to feedin pinkys to the Pope
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Old 2010-08-12, 12:12 PM
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