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Old 2008-09-22, 02:43 PM
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give it to someone who knows what they are doing. simple.
You understand there are too few sound engineers to master all recordings which need mastering, so You understand that most recordings would be never released while applying to Your rules?
I don't make rules.. I make suggestions.

If you taped the show - you can do whatever you wish. this is a no brainer.

If you are taking classic shows that have been around forever & fiddle with them.. then, IMO, you are a complete knucklehead.

my suggestion for these 'sound engineers' is this
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there should be a rule: IF you seed a remaster - the ORIGINAL source must be seeded first.
this way the unaltered recording is preserved.. and mr/mrs remaster can have at it & enjoy their thing.
there have been some GREAT remasters..but these are very few and far between.

there are also people out there that remaster everything/anything...badly.
I can't think of anything worse for the trade pool. that is my opinion.

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Old 2008-09-22, 02:48 PM
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give it to someone who knows what they are doing. simple.
You understand there are too few sound engineers to master all recordings which need mastering, so You understand that most recordings would be never released while applying to Your rules?
Doesn't mean they'd never be released. Means they'd be released raw, as they were recorded (or close to it).

To many, that's a better option than being released after someone has stepped all over the show with compression, noise reduction, & EQ.
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Re: Remaster Category and No More Names!

Fine.
This is just the first time for me when someone is against spreading knowledge when it comes to recordings. So far I have met only people who wanted to share, share, share...
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Old 2008-09-22, 05:46 PM
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Fine.
This is just the first time for me when someone is against spreading knowledge when it comes to recordings. So far I have met only people who wanted to share, share, share...
I see you have vlad in your sig.. this is all starting to make sense now

here !! you want to know how to be an audio engineer - try this link.

sorry, i couldnt find a 'learn audio engineering in ten easy steps' e-book.

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Old 2008-09-22, 06:26 PM
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Re: Remaster Category and No More Names!

Don't forget this one also.

http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Audi.../dp/0240805453
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Old 2008-09-22, 06:45 PM
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Re: Remaster Category and No More Names!

I have heard a couple of really good remasters, but I have heard several crap remasters also. Sometimes the people who do the remaster don't realize that their listening equipment may be very different than other people's listening equipment and their remaster job is too geared towards that environment.
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Fine.
This is just the first time for me when someone is against spreading knowledge when it comes to recordings. So far I have met only people who wanted to share, share, share...
its not about being "against spreading knowledge" or "not wanting to share" -- its about the fact that there's no tutorial that can be written, no freeware app to download

to properly re/master a recording takes years of study & practice...let me reiterate to drive the point home -- years of study & practice...not to mention the gear, which 99.999% of the engineer-wannabes will never have access to, and will never have the $ to attain...for instance, a very low-end home recording studio, i mean bare bones budgetline set up, will start in the tens of thousands US$, minimum...

the handful of cats remastering "classic" shows should be left to 00 they have the knowledge and the studios...as for the home novice with a PC, CoolEditPro, and a pair of $50 headphones -- play around & EQ the shows all you want -- have fun with it!

just keep em for yer personal use and don't trade/seed them
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wow thats almost unique sence of humour, im glad i could meet both of you
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its not about being "against spreading knowledge" or "not wanting to share" -- its about the fact that there's no tutorial that can be written, no freeware app to download

to properly re/master a recording takes years of study & practice...let me reiterate to drive the point home -- years of study & practice...not to mention the gear, which 99.999% of the engineer-wannabes will never have access to, and will never have the $ to attain...for instance, a very low-end home recording studio, i mean bare bones budgetline set up, will start in the tens of thousands US$, minimum...
I understand that point of view but what direwolf said is no even close to it. He just jumped on badly mastered shows and said stop becasue it's crap. For me it's same situation if You would said to a taper after his first (bad) tape - it's shit, stop recording. I agree with main idea of topic - remaster tags or something, but I don't see why help shouldn't be offered for those who would like to learn something. There are amateurs everywhere and some of them are good enough to compete with pros (i can't form a correct sentence in english but Pierre de Fermat as an example should make it clear). And theres nothing wrong with having sound engineering as an hobby and do that good without finishing proper studies. Sure, if You - moderators think it's bad idea to offer any help here on TTD (and community thinks the same) then don't do it. It makes no difference for me as I'm not going to master any shows and I'm not taping either so I just don't need any help (not to mention that my crappy PIII 550Mhz hardly plays flacs and I can't watch videos), but I'm not going to stay quiet when I see that kind of attitude - narrowing instead of opening - especially here where I was suprised like nowhere else with attitude of being open and friendly to eachother - thanks for that by the way.
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Re: Remaster Category and No More Names!

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wow thats almost unique sence of humour, im glad i could meet both of you

Well, YOU came on to their site, where else did you expect to meet them all at once....

On YOUR site?





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.....I'm not going to stay quiet when I see that kind of attitude....
No wonder you quote vladsmythe, with that attitude.....
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I think all recordings should be remastered
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I think all recordings should be remastered
Especially yours
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Old 2008-09-23, 11:42 PM
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Re: Remaster Category and No More Names!

so some types of normalization are ok, while others suck. how am i to tell which type of normalization is good presently, im using roxio 9 to cut tracks, and increase the volume if necessary. you can do normalization from 1x to 10x. 10x is way to much, but doing a 1-3x seems to make some recordings a little better. for the record, i use sony mdr 7506 professional headphones when doing anything w/ my recordings.

remastering old recordings should be left to people w/ the knowledge. but, new people can acquire this knowledge. helping them out would be a good thing. the new category only makes sense.

while we are at it, how about a category for the versions combining multiple sources. ive heard some terrible jobs. im not talking about patching sources for one complete version, but those "matrix" versions. usually they are complete rubbish
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Old 2008-09-23, 11:50 PM
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Anything done with Roxio is worthless. Pretty much everything they make is the lowest form of the associated software. Should be called Fisher Price. I bet you have SB errors in everything you have made. Normalization with Roxio. wow.
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Old 2008-09-24, 12:22 AM
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Re: Remaster Category and No More Names!

nothing i have done w/ roxio has had any sb errors, at least to my knowledge. i should have mentioned that im fairly new to conveerting/uploading.
since roxio is so fisher price, then what would you recommend? btw, i dont have shitloads of cash to throw down on software. however, if it means i can improve my recordings then its an investment i'd consider
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