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Old 2013-09-23, 12:09 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

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Planet Rock is back up but HungerCity has this: http://thehcforum.com/hungercity/lastchance.html

They've seemingly made no effort to reduce their running costs, so this end result is hardly a surprise.
Very fishy. The other day, one of the mods (Erik?) sent a PM to all HC users asking that they NOT make donations. I wish I had saved that PM, but the gist was that there were some kinks in the donation system platform they were trying to work out.
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Old 2013-09-23, 12:25 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

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Very fishy. The other day, one of the mods (Erik?) sent a PM to all HC users asking that they NOT make donations. I wish I had saved that PM, but the gist was that there were some kinks in the donation system platform they were trying to work out.
Yeah. It was Erik Snow who sent the PM (I did save the PM, but, obviously, I can't retrieve it at this time). There was also a dummy torrent that had been "seeded" before (or about the time) that the PM was sent. The text on the torrent's announcement page instructed people not to donate to HC, and the front page, that is used to solicit donations, was also changed to say that we should not donate at this time.

IIRC, the PM and the two posts made at HC made no direct reference to kinks in the donation system: they said that there were issues that needed to be resolved. Mister Snow did not say what those issues were, although it seems (and has seemed) to me to be quite apparent they are.

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Old 2013-09-23, 12:59 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

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IIRC, the PM and the two posts made at HC made no direct reference to kinks in the donation system: they said that there were issues that needed to be resolved. Mister Snow did not say what those issues were, although it seems (and has seemed) to me to be quite apparent they are. B.
Bugs, now that you mention it, I think you're right. It must be very frustrating to be caught in Erik's shoes. I hope he's able to work out the issue(s).
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Old 2013-09-23, 02:18 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

Re the above posts...yes I hope Erik can speak up on here or even PM people to update them here? I know he uses other sites, or I'm pretty sure he does, the name is familiar enough.

I'd like to help save them but given the message and update yesterday I'd need to know more first. I hope they can sort things out somehow as it's been a damn good site over the years.
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Old 2013-09-23, 03:43 PM
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The forum and art gallery is still up and running.

There is nothing stopping anyone going there and asking questions: -

http://thehcforum.com/

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Old 2013-09-23, 10:46 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

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IIRC, the PM and the two posts made at HC made no direct reference to kinks in the donation system: they said that there were issues that needed to be resolved. Mister Snow did not say what those issues were, although it seems (and has seemed) to me to be quite apparent they are.

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are you suggesting donations might not go where the donor intended?
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Old 2013-09-23, 10:52 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

We (The staff) aren't told anything. ALL of our PMs go ignored. I'm done over there
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Old 2013-09-23, 11:23 PM
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apparently not so dumb that I spell "dumbass" wrong.
dumbass, dumbfuck, dipshit, douchebag...spell'em any way you want, they all apply to you & the one who started this thread.

What's wrong w/ hunger city, tape city, LL, dime, etc...who knows, who cares. It ain't our problem nor concern. If you really want to know, email one of the mods over there.
I still think Schmoe said it best, way back n page 2 or 3 of this thread.
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Old 2013-09-23, 11:31 PM
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are you suggesting donations might not go where the donor intended?
Not necessarily.

This is the message that at least two different staff members had posted, first at HC and, now, in the forum:

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PLEASE DO *NOT* DONATE ANYTHING UNTILL OUR ISSUES ARE FIXED
I merely meant to point out that the message asking us to cease our donations did not link that request that to a problem with the channelling of said funds. My assumption is that the "issues" are something else entirely. I think that this issue has been talked out somewhat in the HC forums: one person has total control and does not share information with a staff who does all the public relations work and bears the brunt of citizen complaints.

That is what I meant.

I did not mean to imply that a lot of people claim to have donated a lot of money last summer, and I did not wonder where all of it went. It would be nice if donations were handled transparently at HC and if HC's staff were allowed to audit the finances. It would keep idle speculation, character assassination, and libel to a minimum. I did not mean to do any of those things above, nor do I mean to do them here. I only mean to write what I written before, here and elsewhere: things at HC don't add up; they look suspicious; and, when no one knows what is going on with the money that we ponied up to keep HC up and running, it's tough for me to be generous with my opinion of someone else's business ethic.

Again, I want to thank HC's fabulous volunteer staff. They were not put in a good position, but, despite that, they have handled themselves with grace. They deserve our thanks, and they certainly have mine.

Peace,

Bugs
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Old 2013-09-23, 11:57 PM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

I feel in a difficult position, and Bugs post there is very helpful - well said.

I would like to contribute to keep the site going again, but I contributed a lot at the last appeal and if the level of contributions made by other regular users is not enough to keep it going... (which is sad, there are a lot of regular users, and $2-$3 would kill no-one...if you regularly use a site that appeals for funds to keep going and can't manage that, how can you afford the electricity to do the downloads in the first place??).

But, as Bugs said, clarity is needed now after Erik's pm's.
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Old 2013-09-24, 12:16 AM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

I would donate, if I could be assured it would go to keeping HC alive
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Old 2013-09-24, 02:20 AM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

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As is planet rock!
Was a software problem, nothing more apparently.
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Old 2013-09-24, 02:22 AM
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I'm not saying too much at this stage but for one I am giving up my staff job at HungerCity. Something is very wrong there and has been for some time.

Without going into any detail I am simply going to advise anyone reading this not to donate anything to HungerCity for the time being at least.

This is a very sad day for me, I have put a lot of time into that place over the years as have other staff members but I can't sit by and watch people being ripped off like this.

Loyalty is one thing, honesty is another. You can do as you will but you have been advised
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Old 2013-09-24, 02:31 AM
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Re: What's with Hungercity again?

I feel the same as you nutzrocker. We all worked hard to make that place what it was. I can't sit there and watch what's going on either....
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Old 2013-09-24, 08:09 AM
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I am as clueless as everyone else in this situation. Like all other HC staffers, save the owner, I have no control of servers, hosts, nor finances at HC.

The history (post on HC's front page, bogus torrent) could point to someone hacking the site. There are access abnormalities on the HC Forum, as well.

Once again, I find myself in the awkward situation of being asked questions I am unable to answer. The longer I wait for an explanation, the more I feel grief and lose enthusiasm for donating my time there.

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