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View Poll Results: Should we ban mindless leechers?
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 1.0 27 4.04%
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 0.75 29 4.34%
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 0.50 131 19.61%
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 0.25 157 23.50%
No, not under any circumstances. Let karma take over! 201 30.09%
Give them a warning and allow them to make up for their wrongdoing by ul'ing constantly. 176 26.35%
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Old 2008-02-12, 12:38 AM
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Re: Should we ban mindless leechers?

I think it's an all together bad idea. Not that my oppinion really matters. I'm working on my ratio now and can only upload at 40kbs a second so it takes time for people like me.

I DID however vote for an under .50 ratio ban, only if they can still upload.
And I only voted that incase someone decides they are going through with this, horrible horrible idea.

Every other bootlegg site pretty much does this, why do we have to?
Someone with a bad ratio doesn't quite mean they are bad traders.
There in lies the problem

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vladsmythe - we have never traded or anything but you upload some of the most kickass torrents.
I'm glad you came here from tapecity.........
It's people like you, who are offline traders as well as online that are the whole argument against ratio bans,
I would really hate to see you go man.

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That's real nice of you to say. I should mention that members at another site have gifted me 10 GB of ratio credit as a way to thank me for my efforts on my latest seed there.
I really appreciate that because it keeps me out of the fray of criticism that I encounter here, although I have never seen any personal attacks of any kind there. There is a wisdom in keeping the seeders happy - that their efforts are appreciated as well as essential. It's no skin off of the back of someone who has a 4.0 ratio to give some ratio credit to a .28 if the .28 is seeding something of value to that member. I know that with my .28 (which I have raised from .26 a month ago) I am a 2nd class citizen here and open to ridicule by many. I know that some elite people here have an "infinite" ratio, and get no criticism. I do know that "thank you" from members makes me want to hang out here and share my collection, and negative personal attacks from members and on occasion staff, makes me ill. Ultimately, the abilty to share ratio credit strengthens the community, without opening the ethics question with regard to "selling ratio". It encourages sharing and eliminates the caustic and corrosive negativity that rears it's ugly head much too often here.
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Old 2008-02-12, 04:51 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

i can only upload at 40k/s and have no problem keeping a decent ratio

and anyone who can doenload a TB can easily upload their fair share *if* they wanted to...period

anything else is just a poor excuse
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Old 2008-02-12, 08:54 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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i can only upload at 40k/s and have no problem keeping a decent ratio

and anyone who can doenload a TB can easily upload their fair share *if* they wanted to...period

anything else is just a poor excuse
You're absolutely right. I have already admitted that I'm a bad member. I'll try to work on my ratio. I'm sorry it took this "intervention". I know it's just "Tough Love". One day at a time....
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Old 2008-02-12, 02:28 PM
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Re: Should we ban mindless leechers?

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I think it's an all together bad idea. Not that my oppinion really matters. I'm working on my ratio now and can only upload at 40kbs a second so it takes time for people like me.
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Only at 40 KB/s!? Are you kidding.

Most of 2006 I had 8 KB/s. Later, "they" "upgraded" us (with a big fanfare & bells) to 16 KB/s (B.S.). Naturally, we only pay $ 66 / month.

Of course, any time of the day I can do the next step and get the top-of-the-line ultra mega enterprise fixed-ip non-disconnecting-every-12-hours service.
Glance it in the picture.

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Old 2008-02-12, 10:33 PM
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Re: Should we ban mindless leechers?

i don't think anybody should get banned for their ratio but i do think that people that have never uploaded a torrent should not be able to post in threads. what do you guys think?
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Old 2008-02-12, 10:53 PM
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Re: Should we ban mindless leechers?

I think that would make it quite difficult for the bandwidth challenged to continue vining & doing B&Ps.

I also think it might be a bit difficult to post that first torrent without being able to post.
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Old 2008-02-12, 11:00 PM
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Re: Should we ban mindless leechers?

rspencer, that was a very good point...
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Old 2008-02-12, 11:15 PM
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Re: Should we ban mindless leechers?

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i don't think anybody should get banned for their ratio but i do think that people that have never uploaded a torrent should not be able to post in threads. what do you guys think?

I think it's a very honest point you make.
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Old 2008-03-04, 06:16 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

anyone who makes music downloading political is a nut, politics and music don't go together. i think you have way to much time to spend on nonsense , flac sucks by the way
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Old 2008-03-04, 11:55 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

On my side of things, I can seed only what I download. I have Comcast and they won't let me seed my own torrent for some reason. I have tried on many different trackers and get the same result. Keeping a high ratio is quite tough but not impossible as long as I watch what I download.

A ban on posting in threads would not be a wise decision as that will just create a community of leechers who may never be able to post their own torrent due to restrictions from their IP provider. and then they won't be able to explain themselves if questioned plus you can forget about people saying "thanks"

There is no clear solution as everything you decide becomes political. This is a great community please don't destroy it with more rules.
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Old 2008-03-04, 01:08 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

I read about this ingenious method to seed a torrent if you can't normally seed one because of an ISP preventing it:

-Create the .torrent file as normal, with every file that goes with the show
-When you seed the show, move one file (like the .txt or .ffp file) from the show folder to a different location on your hard drive. Everyone will get to 99.9%
-now that everyone is at 99.9%, remove a different file from the show folder, but add the missing original file
-Voila! everyone completes their download, and you have never shown more than 99.9% complete

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Old 2008-03-04, 03:43 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

It makes no differece to my internet provider All up or down bytes count toward my total up and down for the month Wich is 100 G. This costs me X- Dollars a month.So if I want to keep my ratio even, Half of my X - dollars per month pays for my upload ratio .So why do you want to punish the seeders and reward the thoughtless leechers ?Last time i checked you can get internet via sat dish anywhere in Usa and Canada .Its called dishnet so lets stop blaming ISP providers for your poor ratios and switch to a system that allows you to seed .This ain't a welfare line baby .
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Old 2008-03-04, 04:53 PM
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It makes no differece to my internet provider All up or down bytes count toward my total up and down for the month Wich is 100 G. This costs me X- Dollars a month.So if I want to keep my ratio even, Half of my X - dollars per month pays for my upload ratio .So why do you want to punish the seeders and reward the thoughtless leechers ?Last time i checked you can get internet via sat dish anywhere in Usa and Canada .Its called dishnet so lets stop blaming ISP providers for your poor ratios and switch to a system that allows you to seed .This ain't a welfare line baby .
I for one, am locked into Comcast as it is part of a shared network of which I have no control over. So, getting another Internet server is completely out of the question for me unless the entire network wants to switch providers.

So you see, your hostility won't change what cannot be fixed as simply as you stated.
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Old 2008-03-04, 05:56 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

No hostility intended Hell Yeah, other peoples ratios are not my business . I have a neighbor with an 18 sat dish for internet ,works almost anywhere he says.But I do agree with you 100 % , people who can't change providers like comcast should not be penalized in any way .
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Old 2008-03-04, 06:22 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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No hostility intended Hell Yeah, other peoples ratios are not my business . I have a neighbor with an 18 sat dish for internet ,works almost anywhere he says.But I do agree with you 100 % , people who can't change providers like comcast should not be penalized in any way .
I'm with you valhala, I mean vanilla. Ban them I say! After all, they're THOUGHTLESS! THIS AINT THE WELLFARE LINE OBAMA-LOVIN" LOSERS!
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