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View Poll Results: Should we ban mindless leechers?
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 1.0 27 4.04%
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 0.75 29 4.34%
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 0.50 131 19.61%
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 0.25 157 23.50%
No, not under any circumstances. Let karma take over! 201 30.09%
Give them a warning and allow them to make up for their wrongdoing by ul'ing constantly. 176 26.35%
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Old 2010-06-23, 02:00 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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about 5 years ago I got a free ticket to see Musical Box perform Selling England and I'm sorry but I couldn't stop thinking "Yeah they sound good but it's a fucking cover band doing Genesis not the real thing"
Wow- I saw Genesis on their Lamb Lies Down tour at the Berkeley Community Theater. I decided to drop acid one last time for that show and it was a real trip. I guess some of their earlier shows were even stranger than that one...

I read the first page or two of this discussion and I don't quite understand what is meant by "paying back". I always thought it meant uploading more bytes than you downloaded, and if you can upload new torrents, that is even better but not required. Some people can't upload for one reason or another, but as long as their ratio is healthy I see no problem.

On some of the trackers there are the active uploaders who put up the fresh content and there are the active seeders who keep those torrents going. I think that a good tracker needs both of those types. What it *doesn't* need is the snatch'n'run leechers as well as the superseeders with the seedboxes who make it hard for regular members to build their ratio- assuming that there are ratio guidelines being enforced (if ratios are not enforced then it doesn't really matter).


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P.S. I think it is impossible for everyone on a tracker to have a ratio higher than 1.0 unless there is some sort of bonus system. The seeders uploading bytes need peers to download those bytes. Which is why some trackers expect you to maintain a ratio of 0.5
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Old 2010-06-23, 06:52 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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P.S. I think it is impossible for everyone on a tracker to have a ratio higher than 1.0 unless there is some sort of bonus system. The seeders uploading bytes need peers to download those bytes. Which is why some trackers expect you to maintain a ratio of 0.5
Even a 0.5 is a bit too high, unless some restrictions are established to those who overseed a lot.
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Old 2010-06-27, 10:04 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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but i certainly ain't gonna re-open a torrent for someone who's gotta a really shitty ratio...and excessive leechers i just block in my bt client
What I'd like to see here would be a display of the ratio everywhere a member's name appears. For example, if a member posts in a thread their ratio stats appear under their name, but in the drop-down 'peers list' you show only a leecher's name and port listed. I'd like to see the code for ratio added there, because I agree that I wouldn't be interested in reviving a torrent for a lousy ratio. I know I can always look up their user names, but it seems like adding a line of code is a much more efficient solution, and maybe the constant listing will help prod some people towards better behavior. (yeah, I know, wishful thinking, but wtf)

I'm sympathetic to newbies that haven't had time to build a ratio, but they're not the ones we're discussing here.
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Old 2010-06-27, 12:12 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

a person's ratio does appear under their name with each post


as far as total ratio being listed by a pserson's name in a torrent's "Peer List", that is a good idea...dunno if there's already a code written that or not
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Old 2010-07-09, 10:54 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

on dime (not that am comparing this site to them) has an automatic setup.
if u reach below .25 they stop you from downloading. and then u can only up.
something about it is manually set through the site..and is not even humanly controlled. the whole point of keeping a decent ratio is to keep seeds on a torrent and keep them alive!!!...its really disturbing to see 100 people download a show that was upped a week ago, and then there is 1 or 2 seeders...i voted for .50 ratio at least. thats only 1/2 of what u took.
and on the other hand some people (like me)dl a bunch at a time then seed it out for a month or 2 so it may appear that a ratio was low....but you must keep seeding to keep a torrent up, otherwise it dies!...my true opinion is
there are way to many freeloaders...uploading is only your time and hd space.
if u cannot give any of it back, then u r selfish and you should be cut off...
if u keep fronting some weed from someone and never pay,u will eventually or right away be cut off....sharing is caring and there isnt a whole lot of caring left in this world....its a shame that free things(which is great cos i already pay for ther net)get ruined by people who dont care! just my .2cents
thats probably worth .1/2cent
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Old 2010-07-23, 01:57 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

Who cares about ratios. Those who give will give, those who take will take. Not everyone has the bandwith to give back what they take. All that matters is that the music is circulating, and it always will. Before you bash my ratio, you should know that when i signed up here i downloaded older torrents. I've slowly been bringing my ratio up, and will continue to do so.
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Old 2010-07-24, 06:07 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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What I'd like to see here would be a display of the ratio everywhere a member's name appears. For example, if a member posts in a thread their ratio stats appear under their name, but in the drop-down 'peers list' you show only a leecher's name and port listed. I'd like to see the code for ratio added there, because I agree that I wouldn't be interested in reviving a torrent for a lousy ratio. I know I can always look up their user names, but it seems like adding a line of code is a much more efficient solution, and maybe the constant listing will help prod some people towards better behavior. (yeah, I know, wishful thinking, but wtf)
I just added the code so if you hover over the user's name in the Peers List, their stats will show up.
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Old 2010-07-25, 03:17 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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I just added the code so if you hover over the user's name in the Peers List, their stats will show up.
Thanks U2Lynne! Nice handy feature.
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Old 2011-01-02, 12:26 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

I think if you want to start banning thoughtless leechers, don't start a torrent based site. How do you think shit was done before torrents. Some of us have to steal all the wireless we can and we are firewalled and can't forward our ports because we don't know the idiot who left his wireless unsecure and know there would be no way in trying to educate them on port forwarding.

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Old 2011-01-11, 06:29 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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I just added the code so if you hover over the user's name in the Peers List, their stats will show up.
Nice feature, thank you for adding. This and the "Your Seeding Opportunities" feature makes this site very comfortable to use.

And regarding the topic, I agree with others that I wouldn't be interested in reviving a torrent for someone with a lousy ratio.
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Old 2011-01-16, 08:48 AM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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Nice feature, thank you for adding. This and the "Your Seeding Opportunities" feature makes this site very comfortable to use.

And regarding the topic, I agree with others that I wouldn't be interested in reviving a torrent for someone with a lousy ratio.
I agree!
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Old 2011-01-16, 10:06 PM
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Some of us have to steal all the wireless we can and we are firewalled and can't forward our ports because we don't know the idiot who left his wireless unsecure and know there would be no way in trying to educate them on port forwarding.

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Old 2011-01-17, 02:08 AM
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I agree!
What if I had a lousy ratio, but I vine that show to 50 other people... What if I B&P it for many people. That takes a lot more effort and time and love of the music to burn, package, drive to the post office and mail shows to other people than just leaving the internet connection on a extra couple of days...

Oh, and thanks to all the PJ shows you have been seeding. I love every one!

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Old 2011-02-21, 04:46 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

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What if I had a lousy ratio, but I vine that show to 50 other people... What if I B&P it for many people. That takes a lot more effort and time and love of the music to burn, package, drive to the post office and mail shows to other people than just leaving the internet connection on a extra couple of days...

Oh, and thanks to all the PJ shows you have been seeding. I love every one!

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something we [TTD Staff] have always pushed

understandably not everyone has the upload bandwidth for a 1:1 ratio, but there are numerous other ways to give back...vines, B&Ps, freebies, etc -- all great ways to share
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Old 2011-02-21, 05:22 PM
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?

I think thoughtless uploaders should be banned.
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