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View Poll Results: Should there be Exceptions to Seeding Guidelines?
Nope, They are perfect 20 55.56%
Yes, I think they are a little too tight. 14 38.89%
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Old 2005-01-07, 05:04 AM
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Re: Too Tight, Too Loose, Just right?

No, not at all.
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Old 2005-01-07, 10:29 AM
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Re: Too Tight, Too Loose, Just right?

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I was simply, trying to maybe let someone, that does not visit ezt too often, the chance to know it was there, Jack would be one example, because the last I heard,, he had not gotten a memership at ezt. In fact I was going to ask Jack, if he wanted it, I'd mail it, and Jack that offer still stands.
Thanks for the offer! What show are we talkin?

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Some ppl do care more about the music then lineage, me for one.
If it sounds good, a quality show, etc, I could give a red rats ass if it was beamed from fucking mars, I want it, cause the music is what it's about to me.
That's kinda the way I feel about it. While I understand wanthing to know the lineage and all, it really IS about the music after all.......all this shit sounds better than the AUD5 I used to get back in '88 on Maxell XLII's!!
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Well, when I posted that show, I thought it would me moved to Pulled Bit Torrents, but a Mod pm'd me, and said :

"Charlie, if you can't play by the rules, then please don't post a show stating such. It serves no purpose here.

Your show was moved to purgatory by one of the other mods"

I'm not going to post his name, because, I honestly was not trying to break the rules, get any favorite treatment, or cause trouble.
It was me. I pm'd you. I don't care if anyone knows. I didn't move it to purg, but I was going to (someone beat me to it).

This isn't to start a fight with you Charlie, but if you were honestly NOT trying to break the rules, then why did the following start your thread?

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I know I'm breaking the rules, but I'm doing it, then I'll report it to the mod's, they can pulll it, won't hurt my feeling, but atleast in Pulled Audio Forum, someone might see it that would other wise miss it at EZT.
Clearly, this is an attempt to circumvent the seeding guidelines here at TTD. I know you're not trying to cause any harm, but if you know what the rules are, follow them. Since you said you were purposely doing this in an attempt to have it in pulled torrents, it was moved to purg instead as it does not meet TTD guidelines and shouldn't even be listed.

And that's WJWD!

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Old 2005-01-07, 11:24 AM
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Re: Too Tight, Too Loose, Just right?

All the pulled torrents are deleted eventually. they just go to the pulled forum so the seeder can see why they were pulled. Since Charlie clearly stated in his post he knew it would be pulled, knew why it would be pulled and was just doing it to get around the site guidelines there was no reason to put the thread in the pulled forum.
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Old 2005-01-07, 11:30 AM
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Re: Too Tight, Too Loose, Just right?

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Clearly, this is an attempt to circumvent the seeding guidelines here at STG.
Where are we again?
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Old 2005-01-07, 12:00 PM
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Re: Too Tight, Too Loose, Just right?

I had nothing to do with pulling this show, but I honestly don't understand what the big stink was. All you had to do was write down the following at the beginning of the seed:

SBD > ? > CDRx > EAC > WAV > FLAC

Then make a note that, though it's of unknown lineage, that it's digitally clean, gapless, and complete. The problem I see here is that this contains officially released material, unless I am mistaken. And all you have to do is make a short post in Technobabble BEFORE posting and a mod will let you know whether it's OK or not, and work with you to get it to a point where it is.

Edit to add: Maybe it's not officially released, so I see no reason why it wouldn't be an ok seed if formatted and notated nicely.
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Old 2005-01-07, 12:10 PM
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Re: Too Tight, Too Loose, Just right?

Actually, not quite, Stephen. More like...

SBD > ?? > some sort of lossless format from STG > wav > shntool to jointracks > EAC to remove gaps > CDWave > wav > flac
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Old 2005-01-07, 12:16 PM
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Re: Too Tight, Too Loose, Just right?

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So this whole thread was just started because of a beef between two people? BOOO!
Agreed. Why not email the admins/mods instead of trying to start a revolution? What is it with all the squabbles bing made public all the time? I don't get it.
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Old 2005-01-07, 12:19 PM
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SBD > ?? > some sort of lossless format from STG > wav > shntool to jointracks > EAC to remove gaps > CDWave > wav > flac
Even better....looks like it would have been perfectly acceptable as a TTD seed, assuming that the format the STG seed was in were filled into that lineage above.
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Old 2005-01-07, 12:25 PM
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Re: Too Tight, Too Loose, Just right?

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Even better....looks like it would have been perfectly acceptable as a TTD seed, assuming that the format the STG seed was in were filled into that lineage above.
Really? Wouldn't you think there would be a better source that remained gapless throughout its lifetime? That looks messy to me. Just mho, I know it's not my call. I just figure if it had gaps probably someone burned it TAO and there should be a source that never had that problem.
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Old 2005-01-07, 12:28 PM
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Re: Too Tight, Too Loose, Just right?

True....though if a show has been properly "degapped" than it can really be as good as new.
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Old 2005-01-07, 12:53 PM
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Re: Too Tight, Too Loose, Just right?

Couldn't you use that as an argument for any gen cd-r then? If it has been properly EAC'd... Not trying to be argumentative, I like the strict standards here, and that lineage to me seems to be no better than an unknown cdr. Not that some people wouldn't want it if it is glitch free, but...

Anway, you mods can figure it out. In the meantime, what about this brilliant suggestion?
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Old 2005-01-07, 01:05 PM
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Re: Too Tight, Too Loose, Just right?

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So this whole thread was just started because of a beef between two people? BOOO!
Actually, no. This thread was started after Charlie posted his thread, but before it was pulled. He was asking an honest question *because* he knew he was posting a questionable thread. You can see later on in this thread when he realizes that his show was pulled.
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Re: Too Tight, Too Loose, Just right?

Nina, you're right. Perhaps it's better something like this be kept off the boards. I guess I mean to say that CDRx really is fine for older shows like this where a complete lineage is never going to be found....
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Old 2005-01-07, 03:09 PM
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Thanks for the offer! What show are we talkin?



That's kinda the way I feel about it. While I understand wanthing to know the lineage and all, it really IS about the music after all.......all this shit sounds better than the AUD5 I used to get back in '88 on Maxell XLII's!!

The Band
Roosevelt Stadium
Jersey City, NJ
8/1/73 (Wed)

SOURCE: Unknown
LENGTH: 77:55 min
SIZE: 373 MiB flac


1. Back To Memphis [6:13]
2. Lovin You Is Sweeter Than Ever [4:42]
3. The Shape I'm In [4:18]
4. The Weight [4:22]
5. Stage Fright [4:42]
6. I Shall Be Released [3:25]
7. Baby, Don't You Do It [6:41]
8. Endless Highway [5:18]
9. The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down [3:44]
10. Across The Great Divide [3:07]
11. Wheels on Fire [3:47]
12. Life Is A Carnival [5:19]
13. Share Your love [3:13]
14. Up On Cripple Creek [4:14]
15. Genetic Method/Chest Fever [5:52]
16. W.S, Walcott's Medicine Show [3:22]
17. I'm Saved [5:29]


NOTES:
Downloaded from STG on 10/10/2003 with errors: TAO 2 sec gaps were encoded
into the stream and the show was not tracked properly. I decoded it, joined
the tracks in shntool, meticulously removed the gaps in EAC's wave editor using
the zero-crossing feature, then split the file into tracks using CDWave. All gaps
were exactly the same length, verfied with Zoom Full and Zero Crossing. Final
compression was done with Flac 110k. No other processing was done. There exist
a few source flaws though, relatively minor.

35:52 diginoise
35:53 sub-second drop out
46:33 sub-second drop out
55:42 source splice
58:53 source splice
69:00 source splice
69:01 sub-second drop out
72:22 3 sec drop out

It's my opinion that this is one of the best shows I've ever listened to. Though
there are flaws, they barely detract from the listening pleasure. For show I'd give
this an A+, for sound an A-. Plenty of energy. Prime stuff. The Band opened for
The Grateful Dead at Roosevelt Stadium on this date.
-nibbles-

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Flac Fingerprints:
band73-08-01t01.flac:89353d4a14a84e83c6a016700016d660
band73-08-01t02.flac:e8b58f388d250e5097a955883047e6e1
band73-08-01t03.flac:f6abe32c764080e3bc7cda18d8ed1538
band73-08-01t04.flac:38364d873925294393eeb15321f3d8c2
band73-08-01t05.flac:cd8532d94b1777149a220db0fbe7e6bb
band73-08-01t06.flac:d1bbd95efb0bed4cabe8129eb28a0c97
band73-08-01t07.flac:27376659f047920d8c0cdb51f57eba07
band73-08-01t08.flac:7ee7e5a9bb2f8abe48132229c55b80b7
band73-08-01t09.flac:61ca3144eb8ede6f7f30882586219868
band73-08-01t10.flac:59d6812f4fb4571292bfcde5e1457563
band73-08-01t11.flac:7908e1feddc0d8a2a42c59298ccdecb1
band73-08-01t12.flac:4e39717bf8765fcc5c063dd8f1cbc24a
band73-08-01t13.flac:4ea2a7f9cf2e0861ca113547412043b5
band73-08-01t14.flac:ff3a35257a368651df7a3e137912252d
band73-08-01t15.flac:dd5f531c623ee053fde2db841e4d6a1a
band73-08-01t16.flac:1ad91772d1f19de3d5d9a66fd21bd82c
band73-08-01t17.flac:c5fbbcfea19d7fa8ebbd05f9a9866ec0
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